Is the "Arab Spring" nothing but typical CIA black ops?

14 2011-06-08 by beavis420

Sometimes (Well actually most of the time), I hate seeing how the collective mind on Reddit believes the hype and mass bullshit that is being poured on mainstream media. We know that the rebels in Libya were trained and funded by CIA so is it safe to say the "rebels" in countries like Egypt, Yemen and Syria are also being funded by CIA?

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We know that the rebels in Libya were trained and funded by CIA so is it safe to say the "rebels" in countries like Egypt, Yemen and Syria are also being funded by CIA?

It's probably complex as all fuck. Actual democracy in Egypt is probably bad for Israel (or, at least, the Israelis will think so), so the CIA and Mossad are probably busy building a counter-revolution there. Libya is as phake as it looks. Syria too.

Over the last couple of months of research into muslim laws, the middle east and behaviors of religious followers, you can make a pretty good bet that someone is in favor of radicalizing these people, as a nation or as the ruling classes of these nations they should have implemented some sort of mandate to curb some of these archaic behaviors... but alas you see none of this in the middle eastern countries. So yes the rabbit whole runs deep.

Actual democracy in Egypt is probably bad for Israel

But, despite all the bleating, the interests of the USA are not identical to the interests of Israel.

The fact that US politicians are not allowed to say "boo" against the state of Israel doesn't mean that the whole US government does everything that Israel wants it to do.

One can hope!

lol your so bad at this.

It does mean that, they were bought a long time ago. Most are Jewish or Zionist evangelicals.

I think it's pretty reasonable. "...whole US Government..." vs "Most are Jewish or Zionist...". They are not contradictory.

"The fact that US politicians are not allowed to say "boo" against the state of Israel doesn't mean that the whole US government does everything that Israel wants it to do."

what im saying is that the US has been bought out by Israel through manipulation of Media, Currency, and Politics. He's saying that the US government is behind the uprisings as a way of combating Israel.

I disagree with him.

We know that the rebels in Libya were trained and funded by CIA so is it safe to say the "rebels" in countries like Egypt, Yemen and Syria are also being funded by CIA?

One reason that this is hard to sustain is that the main-stream media has bought into the whole Arab Spring, Evil-Ghaddafi thing.

Without fact-checking and reliable sources to back it up, it's hard to push your point of view.

All terrorist groups and organisations are tools and assets of the CIA, when they are of no use to the CIA they are removed.

Now who owns the CIA is what people should be asking

Short answer: yes.

On top of that, it sounds like we will have troops on the ground there soon enough.

There is a point at which "the CIA done everything" becomes somewhat narcissistic.

No?

Perhaps.

But this question doesn't help answer the original question.

If so, good for us right? If our intelligence agencies are responsible for the Arab Spring, then this is one operation I approve of.

To what end, though? History has proven that the CIA and altruism go together about as well as spaghetti and diarrhea. If the CIA is behind these operations, it isn't for the common good of anyone in the affected areas.

Not completely; there is a thin veneer of stooges with legitimate (albeit trumped up) concerns for the press to display to semiconscious Americans and Europeans.

It will happen like it did with the Contras, with the veneer (entirely false in that case) dropping away and leaving only the naked ambition and mercenaries when no sofa jockeys care to hear about it anymore.

I don't think the CIA is effective enough to pull these revolutions off.

Why not?

It's done so many times before.

When we had money.

What suggests CIA involvement?

When we had money.

Oh. Yeah. I guess the trillions of dollars spent by your government on wars in the last few years means that there's no money left for black-ops. How silly of me!

What suggests CIA involvement?

The fact that so many rebel leaders have lived in the USA?

The fact that the rebels have established their own central bank already?

The fact that the USA has not intervened to crush them?

No, I don't think so... if it makes you happy though... believe it all you want.

No, I don't think so

So this is the best you've got?

Thanks for nuthin' !

Why would the US "crush" them?

Because of all the other countries in the world where the US has intervened to crush popular movements?

Nicaragua is one, and there are many more.

I admit a negative is not a strong indication, but you haven't addressed the other points at all.

"It happened before" is not a sufficient argument.

This could not be farther from a Cold War satelite conflict, we're not trying screw over the USSR.

This could not be farther from a Cold War satelite conflict, we're not trying screw over the USSR.

No, we're trying to screw over a region containing much of the world's oil.

Please, keep up!

I need to keep up because you have a hairbrained idea with virtually no documented... DOCUMENTED evidence... Ok.

I'll just go back to thinking you're wrong, in comfort... Given your really trite views of world history.

And if we are trying to screw over that region... Good.

Edit: that not thy

From the Ministry of Truth:

>Oil reserves in Libya are the largest in Africa and the ninth largest in the world

That's major fap material to the Military elite.

Right, which is why we have troops on the ground in Saudi Arabia right???

Oh wait...

We don't need boots on the ground in Saudi Arabia. They're an "all weather friend".

Your weather report forgot 1973.

you have a hairbrained idea with virtually no documented... DOCUMENTED evidence... Ok.

I am not asserting that the CIA is behind it, as I have little direct evidence.

However, the circumstantial evidence is intriguing.

What's your game?

Aren't you capable of independent thought?

Do you need properly documented evidence before you allow yourself to consider the possibility of something occurring?

So you like intelligent design then?

I've presented circumstantial evidence for CIA involvement, and you start accusing me of being a creationist?

What evidence is there for intelligent design?

You're not as intelligent as I'd hoped if you made THAT connection.

You're the one spitting all this "there's no evidence but it's an interesting idea" bullshit.

I don't think the CIA is effective enough to pull these revolutions off.

Enough said, you're either naeve or trolling :) There has been plenty of documented US interference, both visible and hidden, in the affairs of other states. If you won't consider the OP as a possibilty then you seriously don't understand how the world works. Good day.

And if we are trying to screw over that region... Good.

No it's not good you fucking idiot, if your government will screw others over then they may not be concerned by screwing you over.