It... Looks like the "swamp" is finally being drained and mass arrests are taking place. Now what?
1 2018-06-30 by Spiritual_War
Alright, it is sad I have to do this. I am prefacing this thread with; I did not vote for trump. But I can see when a swamp is being drained, and it is loud. First of all, we have indictments surfacing. Finally. Arrests are finally taking place. Yeah. Those mass arrests.
So not only was the biggest healthcare fraud in the history of man brought to light today, many others are being arrested and investigated as I type this, literally. Seems like this administration is getting a lot done FOR the people and not against them. So where is the applause? Oh? Trump? Okay. Well ignoring Trump, this medical fraud case alone is a huge win for humanity... It has it all. And that is just ONE investigation/clearing. We are at 35,000 indictments. You guys act like that is normal. WRONG (fuck, I feel like trump right now) An average for a year is usually around 1,000. We are 35x over capacity (my math sucks) All of this aside, how is your guys popcorn? ;)
68 comments
1 ANON331717 2018-06-30
Now what? They keep doing it. The swamp is deep. It didn't fill overnight, or over a few years, and it wont drain that way either.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
I am just curious how the.. uhh... sleeping giant AKA the public is going to "react"
we already have a lot of foamy mouths
are we about to witness a mass red pilling of planet earth?
1 ANON331717 2018-06-30
I hope so. My biggest fear is that something massively horrible, like a world war, will happen before that red pilling is allowed to accelerate.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
I think all false flag scenarios are secured and accounted for
I mean for christs sake, air force one. THE PRESIDENTS PLANE (before trump even) was compromised.
To fix and find that deep state patch and work it means that white hats are at the controls of planet earth which means minimal chaos, but still potential chaos. However, I dont think war will hPpen
1 GiganticNipples 2018-06-30
Does the swamp involve like everything now? Cause the term originally was about getting the cronies out of politics. But Trump got in there and lined his entire cabinet with establishment cronies, donors, and his own family. The healthcare fraud bust was good. I'll wait to see what the sealed indictments are all about. I know Sessions has been really been cracking down on drug crimes and immigration, so it's not a huge surprise that we see a spike in arrests this year.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
Uhhh... Billions of dollars in medical fraud constitutes a prettt deep swamp to me. And this is only getting started, so if that is a snall drop in the bucket, whats to follow?
1 GiganticNipples 2018-06-30
Did you read the comment? The term was meant to rile up a crowd against the political establishment. Now if literally anybody gets arrested for doing something bad, people are like oh shit, Trump is totally draining the swamp. Meanwhile his entire cabinet is the swamp.
1 yourbillsaredue 2018-06-30
There’s literally nothing in your comment that’s real other than giant nipples.
1 GiganticNipples 2018-06-30
Right because Jeff Sessions, John Bolton, Betsy DeVos, and Mike Pomeo are total non seamp members right?
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
He has a point about nipples and you have a point about his cabinet
soooo
whose gonna win. and i dont mean you two but i mean deep state vs white hats. I already know the white hats are gonna win
1 yourbillsaredue 2018-06-30
Sorry, Gigantic Nipples.
1 Tulipssinkships 2018-06-30
You're either unwillingly conflating unrelated things to "draining the swamp"or willing doing it. We aren't stupid everybody watched has seen his rallies and now what he was describing as the "swamp" and it wasn't this
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
Youre not everyone
Im not stupid
Also, .. What?
1 Tulipssinkships 2018-06-30
Painting Trump in a positive light by changing the definition Trump himself gave for "draining the swamp". Which was getting crooked politicians out of Washington. This dealt with healthcare fraud and if I read the comments correctly this has been going on since 2012
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
So why arent we celebrating a bust into medical fruad
i dont get why youre being a wet blanket
im happy the DOJ pulled this off. Who cares who is president when this happened.
1 Tulipssinkships 2018-06-30
You can celebrate it just not connected to Trump for draining the swamp because thats not what this is.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
Lol did you really just try to tell me what I can and cannot celebrate?
LOL
1 Tulipssinkships 2018-06-30
You can celebrate whatever you want. Doesn't mean it's logically consistent.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
Its logivally consistent to block people that defy logic and common sense
thank god for logistics
thank god for mute lists, block lists, sad thing is that doesnt improve the ignorance in the world.
1 Tulipssinkships 2018-06-30
Oh you poor child that's not what logistics is lol
1 htok54yk 2018-06-30
None of these people would drink a beer with any of us.
1 whacko_jacko 2018-06-30
Well, Trump doesn't drink alcohol, so no he wouldn't. But you get the point.
1 laybak 2018-06-30
You say that like you're implying there's no politics in the drug industry
1 FartBringerer 2018-06-30
I didn’t vote for trump either and I think he saved america from Hillary and her pay to play cronies.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
I agree.
It seems people forgot about fast and furious gun running
a lot of people also forget about cristopher stevens and the compound that was over run and good men and woman were killed.
1 Sillyfucker100 2018-06-30
Fast and Furious has nothing to do with Hilary Clinton. It was a program started in 2005, under W Bush, and Obama continued it.
There’s plenty of true things to criticize Hillary for, but this isn’t one of them.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
BENGHAZI
1 JCase455 2018-06-30
Out of the frying pan and into the ~fire~increasingly fascist autocracy.
1 Squirrelboy85 2018-06-30
Fascist autocracy? Is that what you see in real life or what's presented to you on TV. Personally I'm out everyday talking to people not seeing anything that relate lis yo fascism.
1 DontTreadOnMe16 2018-06-30
Yes... because everyone knows it’s the fascists that want to prevent the government from taking ours guns away and are strong supporters of State’s rights... if only Hillary had won, she could have stopped these fascists!
Wait a second...
1 nisaaru 2018-06-30
As if the USA hasn't been a fascist nation for decades at its core. Fascism = the merger of state and corporations according Mussolini.
1 _______puff-ery-day 2018-06-30
Natural news is bullshit.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
I respect your god given right to comment this here on this fine day
1 _______puff-ery-day 2018-06-30
Amen!
1 nisaaru 2018-06-30
The guy tries to establish a free video platform at the moment with "real.video" due youtube censorship. That's something worthwhile.
1 _______puff-ery-day 2018-06-30
It will just be bullshit too.
1 WayfarOuthere 2018-06-30
It just occurred to me that Trump's ego is it's own reward for any good he does.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
see and maybe thats a good thing
we the people can use that, right? RIGHT?!
We the people have the power remember? So if ego gets a trump boost out of this go full bonker status my dudes.
1 gandalfsbastard 2018-06-30
This is of course a good thing but equating it to draining the swamp is a stretch. Also it’s best to use the actual source and not some biased opinion piece trash.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/national-healthcare-fraud-takedown-results-charges-against-601-individuals-responsible
When you force a narrative your ‘red pill’ is more like a red placebo suppository. Make sure you get it waaay up there.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
I mean i dont wanna cram anything
but yeah that link is far more attractive
thank you :)
1 gandalfsbastard 2018-06-30
The actual release has really good info. The charges are mostly lying to FBI and audit related offenses. I bet most of these fall into to fine and loss of license categories.
The investigation dates go back as far as 2012. I think this is the culmination of a long investigation.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
I hope not only fines....
So sick of fines.
When you own the machines that print the money what fhe fuck does a fine do anyway :(
1 gandalfsbastard 2018-06-30
I agree and some will probably do time but I bet many will skip and go directly to plea bargains.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
You know. I think our systems are out dated. I mean holy shit balls bat man.
1 gandalfsbastard 2018-06-30
Yes but it’s always about bang for the buck. The option for fine and loss of license is quick and simple.
Things like this get low priority and minimal resources and budget. That’s really the only thing Trump did, he have it priority and attention. If you do the actual cost benefit from a government dollars POV I bet it’s a negative return. That is the cost to investigate, prosecute and enforce will waaaaay out way the funds recovered.
Of course the political returns and the marginal win in the opioid “war” will offset some but that’s it.
Fix the problem as opposed to treating the symptoms.....
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
Who cares about the cost to investigate
when literal billions have been funneled into black ops projects
yet no one is outraged over that. Here we are discussing a small medical bust and people are too busy looking at the fucking turds in the grass while the cloud floats by. What the fuck is wrong with humanity.
1 gandalfsbastard 2018-06-30
I agree there is a ton of wasteful spending. Some of us do pay attention.
But you were the one that said this was a “drain the swamp” event. I think it’s business as usual with little to show for it other than a sound bite.
Blip on the radar but still good.
1 TheRiseofMindhawk 2018-06-30
trump is going after his enemies and creating spaces to be filled in the bureaucracy for his friends
after which the looting will continue after which all the proceeds will go to trump and his foreign creditors
do not be naive about trump, he is a criminal and one of the worst people in the history of the world
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
...
one of the worst people in the history of the world?
Bro. What the fuck are you smoking right now cause I dont want any.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-30
It's the ideological possession. Trump isn't ideal, but if you're a leftist, nothing in the world will ever let you see him do good. If he jumped in front of a car to save an old lady, the left would find a way to blame him for the old lady being in the path of the car in the first place.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
what the fuck is a leftist
i dont follow politics whatsoever
i refuse to put myself in a box so other boxes can attack me for being in a box.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-30
I should have said "If one is a leftist."
Maybe I'm a romantic (in the classical sense, not the entertainment or relationship sense), but I don't agree that Trump is one of the worst people in the world. I don't think you can even come up with a list of "worse people in the world" that would be objectively true to all observers.
While the media pushes to divide an conquer using identity politics, many of his supporters see him do no wrong, and his detractors see him do no right. They can't both be correct. The truth is somewhere in between.
I understand why TheRiseofMindhawk feels that way, and I understand your response, but what just happened there was an example of ideological possession, where your beliefs on a matter are so entrenched that instead of thinking and engaging, you react and respond with responses that shut down discussion.
I applaud your attempt to not put yourself in a box, but it's not as simple as saying "I don't follow politics." That your response was a defense of Trump makes this statement false. You follow politics enough to at least have a positive opinion of Trump and to the point of having a willingness to defend him.
So, Trump is going after his enemies. This much is obvious. The questions that follow should be: * are his enemies my enemies * will eliminating his enemies benefit me or my "tribe" (those you care about) * will eliminating his enemies benefit those outside my tribe to my detriment
If the answers to the first two questions are yes, then you're probably a Trump supporter, but if the last question is also yes, then are you still going to support Trump? If the last answer is yes and you become a detractor to your own detriment because hurting your opposition is more important to you than benefitting yourself and those around you, then you suffer some degree of ideological possession.
It's like the SJW movement supporting authoritarianism and anti-fa, even though both of those things are antithetical to the progressive movement, but both of those things hurt their opposition.
1 TheRiseofMindhawk 2018-06-30
mmhmm
you reveal what you really are
im not your bro
bye
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
lol alright then consider yourself #BLOCKED
Next
send bobs please. I prefer Bob.
1 TheRisenOsiris 2018-06-30
As do you. :)
1 TheRiseofMindhawk 2018-06-30
it's impossible for someone of my abilities to not reveal who i really am unless i live in a cave and avoid all human contact.
do you see what just happened? spiritual war, someone i have interacted with before, said something totally uncharacteristic and agit-prop and dickish, and then when I pointed it out he deleted the comment rather than explain
spiritual war is a fake account, that means the entire cemex incident threads here that he managed, were government operations, which I already suspected.
this is spooky stuff, better be sure you're on the right side.
i know i am.
1 BUT_MUH_GUNS_THO 2018-06-30
It's true. Look at the unprecedented rate of regulatory capture going on. Skyrocketing ceo salaries. Trump camps full of kids. A cabinet full of Goldman sachs. The devos family with hands in everything.
This isn't draining the swamp.
1 sackajahweeda 2018-06-30
This is for the person that asked me IF I REALLY BELIEVE that doctors purposefully get patients addicted...Ummmm yes. I honestly thought that it was in an ebb at this point but I guess not by these numbers. Sad....Now there will just be more doctors in addiction medicine making money of medicaid and patients dolling out methadone and suboxone. Call it a day?
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
Jesus.
The methadone clinics alone are... awful
Opiates is a scary mess. And our streets are FLOODED
1 sackajahweeda 2018-06-30
Yes and methadone or LIQUID HANDCUFFS if you will is a harder road to come back from than the dope...But people desperately want to get back to the world of functioning addicts and they choose this path and end up doing opiates for sometimes decades longer.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-30
ive seen methadone make people just... idk. its sad.
I always tried to help people under this spell but i could see the broken eyes of their soul.
Its sad. Liquid hand cuffs are a great description.
1 sackajahweeda 2018-06-30
I mean if you have to say get straight back to work to feed the kids then yeah but the sad thing is ITS A BUSINESS so very few clinics treat it as a taper or even mention the lengthy process for getting off. They let you go as high as that particular clinic allows with virtually no mention of the plan for the future. They use the whole you arent there yet so best not to get ahead of yourself with that talk just yet. Before you know it you have a few take homes to help you continue in the path and years have passed with still no mention of a taper. I mean if you are on say 150mg and the average taper is 2mgs a week then you are talking nearly a YEAR AND A HALF JUST TO GET OFF! But I guess its better than seeking so long as when you begin you do so with an end time frame in mind as to not go so high on the dosage when they are leveling out your required dosage. That withdrawal makes H seem like a walk in the park in summer. Anyway keep coming back folks!!
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-30
It's a good start, but that's not really very many doctors and nurses, all things considered. I worked in a nursing home for 6 years and there were AT LEAST 3 nurses stealing opioids who were fired. One even tried to frame another nurse who was pregnant at the time.
I feel like there is a lot more to be done. The numbers in the article look good if you don't realize how many doctors and nurses the average city hospital employs, and how many hospitals a city might have.
But these numbers are HUGE if you live in a small town.
1 DontTreadOnMe16 2018-06-30
Damn, your post is so good it’s even got them working on Saturdays!!
Thanks for pointing this out. I saw something about this in passing the other day, but haven’t looked into it because I didn’t see much else about it. I’ll have to dive in.
1 urban_bobby_dawg 2018-06-30
I'll be happy when I see bodies hanging
1 BUT_MUH_GUNS_THO 2018-06-30
Wtf?! Arresting doctors and nurses is not "draining the swamp". The swamp got drained alright. It got drained right into trumps cabinet!!
1 King-Hell 2018-06-30
Natural News is a fake news site that just makes shit up. Zero credibility.
1 Tulipssinkships 2018-06-30
You can celebrate it just not connected to Trump for draining the swamp because thats not what this is.
1 Sillyfucker100 2018-06-30
Fast and Furious has nothing to do with Hilary Clinton. It was a program started in 2005, under W Bush, and Obama continued it.
There’s plenty of true things to criticize Hillary for, but this isn’t one of them.