Weird how young generation antagonize and terrorize David Icke in mobs like they are all MK Ultra'd.

You should defin itly look into him.

You were very ignorant then. We all were.

DI is still Alex Jonesey, he gets all the airtime he wants now and is not harassed in the way some people who have real information do. He talks about Lizard people and that's what keeps him in the limelight. They want and need him there so you and I can be associated with him. No traction, no progress made in waking people up from the real misinformation being spoon fed to them. No investigations into 9/11 and Sandy Hook because you probably beleive in lizard people or flat earth.

You have to be able to separate yourself and in the end when you have the attention of enough people, if that friggin lizard idea turns out to be true, it will speak for itself. No need to carry it all along with the real evidence of thermite in the dust, or FEMA keystone community events being held. It only serves to make sure people disregard.

Gut was right. Gatekeeper, but interesting to hear what one can and cannot say as Gatekeeper.

this is a double edged sword. both sides should use it until it has lost all meaning.

Seriously. Get to reporting every English celebrity & politician.

everything should get reported.

I'm sorry, but where do you live that the bourgeois are under the same arm of law as you?

Neverland, but that isn't the point.

Report it. Then report it again. Then report some other things.

A law like makes it possible to basically DDOS police ressources.

The reason you report celebrities and politicians is because you know they won't be sentenced.

It isn't about getting them arrested, it's about flooding the system. We know nothing will happen to them, so they are "safe" targets. Only report the untouchables, let the normal folks go unreported. How will they say the system works then?

They talk enough and say enough offensive shit.

The backfiring potential is great. Imagine turning it around on them, and reporting things they don't find offensive, as offensive.

Ugh... I agree that this is nonsense, but posting hateful nonsense just to irritate or flood the world with more nonsense is retarded.

And, since I live in Texas and can freely say so without fear of a reprise panopticon: fuck the U.K. Lawmakers and fuck the U.K. Police that enforce these infringements on personal liberty. I'd love for them to hear these words: "you are the problem, you slavery loving, money-licking, boot and Ass-kissing ignorant fools".

Ahhhh.... lol, 😐

The mistake she made was posting online, using an account that can be tied to a real person.

Every 6 month refresh your accounts and usernames on any and all social websites. Never use two passwords or similar usernames on the same forum and avoid at all costs using the same usernames across different forums and sites.

Avoid posting on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook unless you use fake details.

Yes, they can trace you easily by using your IP, but in the UK that requires the prosecution to jump through more legal loopholes.

Can't wait for this system to be abused though, it's going to be great seeing loads of people sent to jail for expressing their PERSONAL OPINION ON THE FUCKING INTERNET. Yes, that is CAPS!1!11!! How far has humanity fallen where text on a fucking screen can offend people.

Pull the fucking plug on the WWW for the sake of humanity, PLEASE!

Are VPNs safe anymore? Who controls that traffic?

Id rather use a VPN than not have one. Try get one that does not reside in the 14 eyes surveilance agreement.

All of your advice us submission.

It's not. It's careful practices.

The web is a tool, its not place you should have to hide to be able to contribute.

That's a bullshit response. I get to have a say and speak my words out in public in the REAL WORLD but online I have to hide?

That is garbage.

Yeah, go shout Paki or Nigger in a non-white area. See how long your freedom of speech lasts.

I understand not saying certain things at certain times in real life. You're quite right though, censoring on the internet is bullshit.

Bring back anonymity

It isn't always enough

I live in Estonia. I use my non-legal name in Discord and don't post much personal information there(selfies, age, country of origin, some details from life but nothing that'd be too easy to identify IMO). During a certain period of my life, I joked on public Discord server about shooting down my school and expressed suicidal thoughts.

My teachers got a call from police that night and my mother was called to school. According to them, I was lucky to not have police burst into my house. It hasn't been brought up later, but after that incident I didn't feel safe speaking to online friends even in private for a long time - even if I trusted them.

Use VPN, my dudes.

(For anyone curious, I'm doing much better now. Don't be afraid to reach for help if thoughts like this overwhelm you.)

TMOR writ large.

BSOR**** bottom spooks of reddit

WTF. It makes me wonder though. Whenever there's a new shooting here in the states we get people from the UK ridiculing our society. IMO, rights of free speech are far more important than the right to bear arms.

Free speech without the right to bear arms is merely a suggestion.

In what sense? In what way would more liberal gun laws have prevented this from happening in Britain?

It wouldn't have, it's just something people say all the time on Reddit whenever refering to the UK. Like, because we are not all armed to the teeth then suddenly we are the most oppressed nation that ever existed. Some people like to reduce every discussion back to guns. Happens every time.

How do you plan on fighting against your oppressive government? With status updates and memes?

That's how the right wing dealt with things

they don't have to worry about oppressive government. That's like so last century. Didn't you know its current year? Human civilization is past the point of tyrannical governments. /s

Your government is replacing you with violent but easily manipulated gang rapists who want to implement Shariah Law while they imprison native citizens for saying that's not cool on social media. Guns would be handy right now.

It only takes one guy to decide if he's going to prison for some of the ridiculous shit they're charging their citizens with then he might as well tack on a few murder charges to take out a judge or two and maybe a few of the shitlicking footsoldiers. Depending on the circumstances, the public might even view him favorably. It would certainly make them rethink trying to enforce that in the future.

Did it stop 9/11 the patriot act the Iraq war Obamas drone strikes Trump bombings?

Funny how "more liberal (liberating) gun laws" should mean more lax and free gun laws, while "conservative (conserving) gun laws" are supposed to be more controlled and tightly managed. The opposite. Feels almost like by design.

A liberal should be saying "everyone who wants a gun should be able to receive one in a free/liberal and open society!", while a conservative should say "I think we should be more careful about who we give guns to and need to be selective to save money and resources!".

An armed population that refuses to cooperate with the thought police could become a big problem.

The patriot act and the NSAs spying weren't state stopped

Are you aware of how close we recently came to a military coup to stop erosion of the Constitution and Bill of Rights? 100% chance an armed citizenry would have come into play, most certainly as a deterrent against resisting the pending coup.

The saying goes: the English gave up their guns and now their government puts people in jail for thought crimes and facebook posts.

Never give up the second amendment.

Having free speech without guns is possible

Only if the 'masters' allow you.

I live in a country where the so called 'masters' discourage certain viewpoints, yet it is perfectly acceptable and unpublishable to say whatever the fuck you think.

We have no guns.

Don't waste your breath mate - these yanks think they have free will because they have guns but they've had their rug of freedom slowly pulled from under their feet, inch by inch, for fucking years and have done absolutely fuck all about it - fucking gun-toting pussies.

Well you could say that they have had to do it so slowly due to possible uprising.

In the short term maybe. In the long without the ability to defend your rights you will lose those rights. The only rights people have in the long term are the rights people are willing to fight for.

Our government could do the exact same thing while we still have guns. What are you going to do, shoot the cops? We have more people in prison than any other country.

What are you going to do, shoot the cops?

That would be an option, yes. Ideally you'd have everyone rallying behind defending their rights in a violent rebellion against unconstitutional laws and injustice. You can guarantee foreign governments would be helping the rebellion, and there would be rogue factions of the military willing to pitch in as well, so long as the people are armed and capable of forming an organized insurrection militia.

Exactly why they want to suppress free speech, particularly on social media.

One guy with a gun and no voice gets surrounded by cops, none the wiser. Same guy has access to media, you get Harney County or Ruby Ridge. Those didn’t turn out so well for the citizens at hand, but they were shitshows for the government and a warning to other citizens. They control the old media now to prevent the Ruby Ridge scenario; they are trying to strangle social media to prevent the Harney County one.

I am talking about right now, here in the United States, today this very moment and over the past say fifty years. Cops arrest people for shit all the time that should be considered unconstitutional or whatever but you don't see any armed rebellions happening. When someone does do that they are on the news as a terrorist. I never said that it was odd to me, just saying that they are already doing fucked up shit and have been for a long time, yet if you go shooting at the cops, you will rot in their prison as a slave for the rest of your life.

No, you'd be dead. Either before or after you got arrested. Cops don't like it when you take potshots at em.

You're absolutely correct.

Cops arrest people for shit all the time that should be considered unconstitutional or whatever but you don't see any armed rebellions happening.

Not our first amendment though. That's sacred to us. The alien and seditions act reminded us why.

Can you elaborate further on the subject of the alien and seditions acts and what happened due to them? I am not disagreeing or attempting to debate, I am genuinely curious about this topic. Was it an attempt to imprison people who criticized the government?

It isn't really constructive to analyze history in terms of what we believe a political act was intended for. It's impossible to discern such a thing now, let alone 200 years ago. What we can do is demonstrate what a piece of legislation allows for, and the consequences of the legislation. The seditions part of the aliens and seditions act made it illegal to criticize the government with false allegations. If you were accused of such a thing, you could use truth as your defense. The biggest legal problem here is that our justice system presumes that one is innocent until proven guilty, however you can't prove that someone is guilty of not speaking the truth. Specifically, the only argument for proving a negative in this situation is asserting absence of evidence, but absence of evidence in a justice system where the accused is presumed innocent until proven guilty essentially shifts the burden of proof from the prosecutor to the accused, resulting in the opposite-guilty until proven innocent. It would be up to the defendant to prove that they are not making a false claim about the government by providing evidence for the truth of their claims. When this comes down to criticisms of policy, you can imagine how this might be particularly problematic. There's a lot to touch on here, but I recommend studying about the early American politics of federalists versus anti-federalists. The alien and seditions act was passed by a majority federalist Congress and signed off by a federalist president. They did not even want Americans to have the bill of rights. The political result of the act was Jeffersonian anti-federalists/Democrat-republicans being accused and convicted, essentially imprisoned for holding political views contrary to the state.

Just wait until people arent getting there mcdonalds and shit for 9 meals. Thats all it takes before people start wanting to do crazy shit.

Definitely not saying it couldn't happen.

You say 'ideally' but I am talking about reality.

Who knows. I guess we'll see what people do if and when we get there.

Other world powers (China, and yes, even Russia) would be frothing at the mouth for an opportunity to arm and influence opposing American factions in order to sow discord and permanently dismantle the union. The US would be utterly fucked if the people ever took up arms against the government. People like to talk about how the 'lefties' would be screwed because they don't own guns. Guess what: the righties are going to be fighting foreign nationals as well, complete with bombing campaigns, heavy artillery, armored vehicles, you name it. It's going to be a fucking free for all and every player on the world stage is going to pour as much gasoline on us as they can.

No way, they too much to gain from having the U.S. as an ally. The people would be grateful towards anyone that supported them. If anything it would finally heal the wounds between the East and the West.

You haven't been paying attention to history if you think for a moment that there will not be a host conflicting foreign influences in any hypothetical Civil War II, and that there will be no actors looking to permanently cripple the country, or to install leaders of their choosing from the numerous competing factions. There will be rampant shootings and bombings even after this war formally ends. It would be a disaster, and the only winner would be the next superpower to fill the global power vacuum.

That's true but if there were any competing factions they'd be propped up by Russia and China vs. the E.U. and the commonwealth, and those factions would be the people supported by Russia and China versus the U.S. tyrannical government supported by Russia and China. The people would win, it would be bloody, and we would probably replace the government with a temporary fascist state in the wake of the chaos that may or may not return to a more representative government. It's not a desirable outcome, but the people would pursue it over the certain tyranny we have now, and the government would be wise to make sure they present a more lucrative outcome.

yes. You exercise your God given right to free speech. Then government officials come to your door to take you away. Then there is a firefight. An armed citizenry is the ultimate check and balance. I don't know why this is so hard of a concept for people.

My point was that police arrest people all the time to be slaves in prison for things like drug addiction and yet they get away with it even though we all have guns. The ones who die in a firefight as you put it are dead, and the rest are arrested and imprisoned. Go ahead and shoot at the cops right the next time they harass you. You'd die and they'd still be collecting slaves before the evening.

Based on the idea that WHERE WE GO ONE WE GO ALL, a heavily armed population that refuses to allow your arse to be hauled off to prison - because someone didn't like your words - or you put bacon on a mosque doorstep - eventually the bullies in the government would realise they cannot enforce their will.

I am not saying that it would not deter complete tyranny. All I was saying is that our rights are slowly being dissolved even though we are armed. Guns could stop a complete takeover, but how do we stop the Totalitarian Tiptoe?

Looks like that tiptoe is being stopped as we speak :D

There's also some UK fucks in here ridiculing us acting like UK is the best country in the world.

Chill out Bro, just because the US is one of the worst, yet you think you're free... Most Americans are utter fucking idiots! 😂

US is more free than your totalitarian country(UK). Better ban those knives!

https://twitter.com/MayorofLondon/status/982906526334668800

Tbh, we're all in the same boat for slightly different reasons but you have guns and have been utterly shat on by your government - you have no real rights, your media is fucked, your country is overrun by deep state/lobbyists/think tanks/military industrial complex & you think you're free! What a joke - you're told to think that!!

And don't bother downvoting me, I don't give a fuck - been here 10 years listening to this bullshit rhetoric - boring!!

you have no real rights

America is the most free country on the planet. Compared to every other country, America has way more rights.

your media is fucked

Your media is literally just as fucked. Always see some shitty UK media site with obvious clickbait titles. independent, dailymail, theguardian, mirror, and express are all straight fake news.

your country is overrun by deep state/lobbyists/think tanks/military industrial complex

Very ignorant to think that your country isn't fucked either.

have been utterly shat on by your government

Same with you. Your act like your government hasn't shit on your either.

but you have guns

Yes we have guns. We have the right to self protection, unlike your shitty country.

Well that's me told isn't it.............. Yawn

I said on facebook the other day how much muslims fucking suck, and then the cops came to my house and arrested me. Oh wait........no they didn't because I'm American

Twice as likely to die of knife crime in the UK than you are of gun crime in the US. And there's more than one gun or household here, so .... Yeah.

So many in the UK braintwashed to fight so hard to be as defenseless as bunnies.

Never happened.

I find them equally important. Infringe one and the door is opened to all of them.

I mean come on lol she could have exercised a little more sense

Exactly, she knew what she was doing and it was rude af and she’s paying the price for it now.

Nothing to see here folks just move along, TMOR garbage.

Sorry my opinion is different than yours

People should just believe everything CNN if they don’t then they are idiots, TMOR TRASH.

Where do we report?

So we should report about 50% of the song and dance acts visiting UK this year.

Happens in the US too.

https://consequenceofsound.net/2014/09/kentucky-man-arrested-for-posting-heavy-metal-lyrics-to-his-facebook/

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/6244129/exclusive-james-evans-exodus-lyrics-facebook-jail

http://abc30.com/news/fresno-police-arrest-teen-for-posting-eminem-lyrics-on-instagram/966390/

BUT MUH FURSTH AMEDMENT AND GUNS!!!!! /s

Guns can't protect shit without people

Fight fire with fire

That is not thought crime. She did commit a supposed crime. Thought crime would be thinking about committing a crime and then being arrested for it. You can disagree with this case, as I do, but that doesn't make it thought crime.

they got $500 and an $85 bonus out of the deal; they also got insurance in case she fucks up again so they can get some more $$

business as usual.

Right but UK pounds so it's more like $750 and $120. Not that the amount is the main point.

regoddamndiculous - gold!

What if a person is behind seven proxies?

Who said that

Then you can safely send a cooking recipe to your grandma. Otherwise, who knows who might get offended by it.

Hehe, seems funny until you put pork in the recipe

Orwell must be rolling in his grave. I do not live in UK and don't know what it is like over there, but stuff like this... Well, it's a step towards 1984 for sure.

Who the fuck decided to use this book as an instruction manual?

Orwell must be rolling in his grave.

1984 was about a lot more than thought policing.

In many ways, thought policing is a red herring compared to the more serious stuff Orwell was writing about.

I'm sorry but that is flat out retarded. You have this guy who clearly has no expertise in engineering or physics conclude that missiles are fake because they don't have wings and planes do.

That's pretty dumb on its face, but then you have to think about how much footage there are of missiles. We're not talking about the moon landing, one trip, totally could have been faked. We're talking about what, millions of videos showing missiles in action, over the period of hundreds of years, from hundreds of different countries and sources. Hell, you can buy a model rocket yourself and shoot it horizontally.

Not to mention home rocketry and fireworks...

millions of videos showing missiles in action,

millions?

Orwell must be rolling in his grave.

If so, it's only so he can get another scrap of paper upon which to write the names of his "friends" before he snitches them out to the government.

Gonna get a lot worse yet......

Oh Those Embarrassing Moments: Atlantic Council's Ben Nimmo Outs 'Russian Bot' That Turns Out To Simply Be A UK Citizen Tired Of UK Government Warmongering

https://steemit.com/news/@clarityofsignal/oh-those-embarrassing-moments-atlantic-council-s-ben-nimmo-outs-russian-bot-that-turns-out-to-simply-be-a-uk-citizen-tired-of-uk

For the past few months, Ben Nimmo, the head of the Atlantic Council's Digital Forensic Research Labs has had his eye on one Twitter account in particular and he has relentlessly framed that account as being that of an influential "Russian bot" that is linked to the Kremlin. This post will reveal that the Atlantic Council's Ben Nimmo has displayed utter incompetency and a shameful display of research (or lack thereof), considering his position as head of DFR Lab, and considering the large amount of money that the Atlantic Council receives and spends on supposedly 'countering' disinfo (to be read as acting as "Thought Police") for the global elitist establishment.

Sorry my opinion is different than yours

We just need to start using these tactics against those who are trying to invent them.

Meanwhile salafist preachers are free to preach hate of the west in mosques and on the street, not saying they should be censored but at least apply the law equally UK

thats racist pal

Not sure if you're being sarcastic. salafism isn't a race, it's an ideology just like communism or fascism

you're racist too!

Whatever the charge, whatever the political leaning this is shit law because of the way it's being used.

It's a 'crime' that is only enforced when the police, or tbtb, want or need it to be enforced.

I can say nigger online, I just did, and I'm in the UK, hopefully no one needs to arrest me. Someone obviously wanted this girl arrested for something. (I'll post updates in six months for anyone that asks whether I've been arrested)

This is a way for any government to destroy opponents. This is shit but not because of the words used, but because it's applying law differently to different people

The girl in the article has upset someone she shouldn't have.

Whoever she upset needs to be found.

What's wrong with this sub? I thought it was a group of rational, critically minded people.

Now I find it's a bunch of Americans essentially saying "ha Britain you're hardly perfect".

Nationalism gets us nowhere folks.

Most Americans really like the UK, but for whatever reason guys are always derided when these subjects come up. When someone who has been brainwashed into thinking guns are bad or useless tried to push that idea here? Bad idea. Expect backlash, because we get enough of that crap in our media every day. No offense to Brits in general. Everyone hates seeing your rights going down the toilet about as much as we hate seeing ours under attack.

You’re right on the net Brits get all stuffy about guns. It’s like we are better than others because the government doesn’t think us grown up enough to use them, that is just crazy and righteous. As it happens s I’m in the uk and do own a gun but that aside I see no need to get uppity about it. What they fail to realise most Swiss homes have guns and they are far better off that we are. As do many Swedish and Finnish homes.

Our guns were taken away in the 1930s because the government was afraid of an armed revolution. And they had reason to be as well. Now it’s because of our own health and safety we can’t have them. Load of bollocks.

I find it daft that Brits brag about not being trusted with guns when in fact they have no idea what they are talking about half the time. Still you lot got to stop shooting each other as much as you do. But hey that’s the world we live in these days

Yes, a ceasefire from the nutballs of this world would be wonderful, though from what we've seen going on with trucks and bombs, even making sure they are disarmed doesn't seem to stop some of them. Always a good day when they accidentally blow only themselves up!

Jesus Christ that website is literally fucking cancer...

But they don't have guns in the UK so they're perfect.

Love me some Snap Dog!!

That's his actual name. It's not Snoop Dogg.

...and an £85 victim surcharge.

Holy shit, the person who submitted the complaint got paid for being a fake victim? If I were in the UK, I would start reporting anything and everything for being offensive and I would rake in that sweet sweet money

Victim Surcharge isn’t paid to an alleged victim. Even when there was no victim, someone found guilty in court who receives a fine will also have a victim surcharge added, which is added to a pool of money for victims of crime.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_surcharge has more detail.

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Even better, apparently the complainant was also the officer investigating. No conflict there, right?

Huge point of conflict!!!!!!!

This doesn't apply on Reddit does it? I'm basically anonymous so I can say what I want. There's a lot of Stanley's in the UK.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/watch-moment-web-troll-who-11918656

Lol okuuuur edgelord

I deem equality and diversity "grossly offensive". SHUT IT DOWN!!!!

UK is the beta-test site for globalism.

I find the lack of free speech grossly offensive. Censorship is grossly offensive. Cuckholden Islamic traitor mayors are grossly offensive. I guess it’s just part and parcel to living in the land of the free.

So Americans need to start posting on behalf of UK citizens. Maybe an informal proxy service.

send rap lyrics

Upvoting simply because you used the offensive word, rigoddamndiculous.

What if someone deems this post grossly offensive? 🙃

You're right, the UK is pioneering this sort of nonsense. No longer does intent matter, the courts are now deciding that.

It's a slippery slope and it only seems to be getting worse.

Are all those punished by this law white? Does it only apply to white people?

I call all this shenanigans grossly offensive. What happens then?

This is a molly coddled state with paper tigers leading it. Let’s whale on a 19 year old teenager who knows no better but let’s not investigate grooming rings made mainly of Pakistanis because it’s racist. This country needs to wise the fuck up sometimes. Different cultures mean different moral values.

It's not a new thing, it's happened to a Reddit user in 2016.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/watch-moment-web-troll-who-11918656

All threats against freedom of artistic expression must be called out and dealt with, but if you guys think this is something new in any way, you really need to educate yourselves.

DI is still Alex Jonesey, he gets all the airtime he wants now and is not harassed in the way some people who have real information do. He talks about Lizard people and that's what keeps him in the limelight. They want and need him there so you and I can be associated with him. No traction, no progress made in waking people up from the real misinformation being spoon fed to them. No investigations into 9/11 and Sandy Hook because you probably beleive in lizard people or flat earth.

You have to be able to separate yourself and in the end when you have the attention of enough people, if that friggin lizard idea turns out to be true, it will speak for itself. No need to carry it all along with the real evidence of thermite in the dust, or FEMA keystone community events being held. It only serves to make sure people disregard.

I live in a country where the so called 'masters' discourage certain viewpoints, yet it is perfectly acceptable and unpublishable to say whatever the fuck you think.

We have no guns.

That's how the right wing dealt with things

they don't have to worry about oppressive government. That's like so last century. Didn't you know its current year? Human civilization is past the point of tyrannical governments. /s

My point was that police arrest people all the time to be slaves in prison for things like drug addiction and yet they get away with it even though we all have guns. The ones who die in a firefight as you put it are dead, and the rest are arrested and imprisoned. Go ahead and shoot at the cops right the next time they harass you. You'd die and they'd still be collecting slaves before the evening.

Who knows. I guess we'll see what people do if and when we get there.

It isn't really constructive to analyze history in terms of what we believe a political act was intended for. It's impossible to discern such a thing now, let alone 200 years ago. What we can do is demonstrate what a piece of legislation allows for, and the consequences of the legislation. The seditions part of the aliens and seditions act made it illegal to criticize the government with false allegations. If you were accused of such a thing, you could use truth as your defense. The biggest legal problem here is that our justice system presumes that one is innocent until proven guilty, however you can't prove that someone is guilty of not speaking the truth. Specifically, the only argument for proving a negative in this situation is asserting absence of evidence, but absence of evidence in a justice system where the accused is presumed innocent until proven guilty essentially shifts the burden of proof from the prosecutor to the accused, resulting in the opposite-guilty until proven innocent. It would be up to the defendant to prove that they are not making a false claim about the government by providing evidence for the truth of their claims. When this comes down to criticisms of policy, you can imagine how this might be particularly problematic. There's a lot to touch on here, but I recommend studying about the early American politics of federalists versus anti-federalists. The alien and seditions act was passed by a majority federalist Congress and signed off by a federalist president. They did not even want Americans to have the bill of rights. The political result of the act was Jeffersonian anti-federalists/Democrat-republicans being accused and convicted, essentially imprisoned for holding political views contrary to the state.