One of the main differences between a government and a corporation is you can say, "NO" to the corporation.
0 2018-04-20 by MKWalt
Try saying no to the government and see what happens.
0 2018-04-20 by MKWalt
Try saying no to the government and see what happens.
41 comments
1 QAnontifa 2018-04-20
You can't say no to all the corporations.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
Sure you can
1 QAnontifa 2018-04-20
No, you can't. They control all the resources and means of life.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
nah, you're talking about the government that takes a tax from everything.
you're free to start your own business. you cant compete with the government though
1 standard_armadillo 2018-04-20
Say no, and don't pay for your internet/cell phone service provider and see what happens to your reddit posts.
Oh wait.....
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
Yes? They can't FORCE you to buy those things like the state can
1 Kingofqueenanne 2018-04-20
How about when corporations and governments become evil bedfellows? As is the case everywhere.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
It's the government that gives the corporations power to do evil. Not the other way around
1 russianbot01 2018-04-20
More like the corporate lobbyist buy or blackmail the government until it gets what it wants (usually congress is all to willing to be bought)
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
yes, and its government that allows it. without government abuse, the corporation would be only reliant on voluntary transactions
1 daysOFdelusion 2018-04-20
No, it is the opposite. A.L.E.C. org has gained passage of laws that make it very difficult and sometimes impossible to redress grievances against corporations and banks . . . and have in fact made it possible for corporations to sue private citizens.
That is why the libertarians are opposed to governments, it is the only tool to protect ourselves against the wealthiest and, the ones who can buy the most sophisticated weaponry.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
What? You aren't forced to interact with corporations. You are forced to interact with government.
1 daysOFdelusion 2018-04-20
What? Are you saying you grow, and process your own food.
Finance your own mortgage, auto loan, health care?
Produce your own medicines, build your own refrigerators and automobiles?
Yes we do have to interact with corporations.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
yes, do those things, or voluntarily interact with the corporations.
government is not voluntary.
1 daysOFdelusion 2018-04-20
I have no idea what your point is. But I guess is is that now that the corporations are our government, we are just volunteers.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
My point is government is the problem. Not voluntary transactions.
1 daysOFdelusion 2018-04-20
My point is you are not going to be volunteering for anything without a government, you are supporting enslavement of the masses.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
hahah voluntary transactions and interactions is enslavement. dawg you're advocating for more government? LITERALLY you can't say no, they take from you and you cant say no. slavery
1 daysOFdelusion 2018-04-20
You are advocating abandoning listed and guaranteed individual rights.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
How's that
1 daysOFdelusion 2018-04-20
There can't be any without a means to protect and guarantee them, that generally means some form of government.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
I'm not an anarchist. I believe that the main function of government is to protect you from people using force upon you. Unfortunately it is thr government that has grown to be the primary agent of force.
1 QAnontifa 2018-04-20
Government exists to protect corporations. Any benefits rendered to the poor are only offered so they can survive to labor and toil another day.
1 daysOFdelusion 2018-04-20
Yes, the anti-government people have gained it all.
Remember when the U.S. had the world's wealthiest working class, homeowners and they sent their children to state colleges.
The right to have unions, a livable minimum wage, the most educated population of any nation.
It only took them 40 years to steal all the power back. With corruption and money to pay for the laws they wanted.
1 TheRisenOsiris 2018-04-20
I think Qanontifa is one of the last people to think Trump will stop anything, lol.
1 toomuchpork 2018-04-20
Soon you will look at a corporation and look at your government and won't be able to tell the difference. Western politics is pretty much run by corporations already.
Between cabinet and lobby groups corporations have the run in a capitalist state.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
okay maybe, but that doesnt change the fact that the GOVERNMENT is the involuntary aspect
1 toomuchpork 2018-04-20
And you aren't allowed to boycott Israeli companies in the US. Or at least promote boycotting them.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
yes you are.
1 mduncanvm 2018-04-20
But for how much longer. And can you really say no if one corporation controls everything you need to live?
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
the only way one corporation could control everything is if government provides it
1 mduncanvm 2018-04-20
You have it backwards my friend.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
dawg you do. i voluntarily interact with corporations every day. the only way they get my business is if i voluntarily agree to buy. they WANT to satisfy me.
government is involuntary. i have no say. they take my money without my consent.
get with the program
1 mduncanvm 2018-04-20
Yes sir. I’m already with the program. Thanks for letting me know.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
clearly, if you think more government is the answer, you are with the program yes.
1 radarerror31 2018-04-20
Read about the enclosure of the commons and come back to me. You really can't say no to corporations when corporations own 99.9% of the things in the world and you, the laborer, are dependent on selling yourself to them for survival.
Governments largely exist for the corporations, rather than the people. The people only factor into the government's concerns so far as necessary to prevent revolts or mass starvation of the laboring stock. That welfare money is just recirculated, in one form or another, to the owner class anyway. It serves the purpose of pitting the so-called middle class against the poor, and welfare programs are designed with a large taxable worker tax base in mind. The rich aren't paying those taxes.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
Unlike government, you can compete with a corporation and deny them your business. There's no law that says you can't start a business selling a competitive product or service.
Try doing that with the government.
1 radarerror31 2018-04-20
What part of "owns 99.9% of the things in the world" do you not understand? In order to survive, you have to shop at the supermarket, buy from agriculture companies that own all of the farmland, pay rent to a landlord whose only function is to extract money, and so on. It is also an inevitability that capital concentrates into fewer and fewer hands as time progresses. The owner class as a whole will inevitably collude to make sure the workers and the unemployed don't rise up in revolt, which is why we have the modern police state in the world, where the commons are enclosed even more and collecting rainwater is now illegal. If Porky could do it, they'd commodify the air you breathe, and what would your argument be? That you can go somewhere else and buy someone else's air to breathe? Get fucking real. You would have to be deliberately incompetent at best, and malicious at worst, to keep spreading this ideological nonsense.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
go plant food and eat it. go hunt. go make a shack in the woods. oh, no? you dont want to? so you pay someone to do these things for you. sounds pretty good to me.
1 dannyshalom 2018-04-20
Corporations own governments now. You can't say no to either.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
its the government part that makes it so you can't say no
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
okay maybe, but that doesnt change the fact that the GOVERNMENT is the involuntary aspect
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
yes you are.
1 daysOFdelusion 2018-04-20
I have no idea what your point is. But I guess is is that now that the corporations are our government, we are just volunteers.
1 MKWalt 2018-04-20
Unlike government, you can compete with a corporation and deny them your business. There's no law that says you can't start a business selling a competitive product or service.
Try doing that with the government.