Suddenly, Dems are suing Trump, Russia and Wikileaks, and Reps are going after Comey, McCabe and Clinton. Anybody else feel like something even bigger is going to hit the fan this afternoon?

4 2018-04-20 by LudovicoSpecs

The timing on a Friday, coming from both parties, just makes it feel like there's going to be a big news dump this afternoon. Something they really don't want people talking about on either side.

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Trump could win 2020 today if he ended the war on drugs on 4/20. Also would be a marvelous distraction. Joking aside I'm getting the same vibes OP.

Deepstate vs trump

Trump is deepstate

Trump is shallowstate

Lol, that's why they love him.

If he was, then there would be no Mueller, no lawsuits, no tweeting, no McCabe/Comey firings, Media Attacks, etc.

Please try again

It's so funny how you guys fetishize Trump to be some underdog hero who's "going to save America."

Well I was on the fence on whether or not this was true, until I saw all of media turn against him and watched all of these investigations, psy ops, hatred, vitriol etc spring up which made me change my mind.

I dont like is AIPAC suck off nor do I like any of the neocons, but in order to even be a Prez the initiation is that you have to Suck off AIPAC and the Saudis

Lol investigating Hillary is fine, but Trump? Now that's just unfair.

an investigation paid for by the Clintons as an F.U. for losing using foreign intelligence agencies, riiiiight. After his 2 terms, when they are still investigating, maybe then you will consider that there's nothing there?

If the Clinton's and the deep state were the boogeymen you think they are the election would not have even been close.

If the Clinton's and the deep state were the boogeymen you think they are the election would not have even been close.

you underestimate human nature. Comey, who was just head of one of the deepstate branches, is literally hanging himself right now with his public speaking engagements, interviews, his memos being released, and those who are deepstate are starting to turn on him.

You had the Mainstream Misledia oversampling the polls and lying that she was going to win no matter what, and no one took Trump serious besides a couple of pollsters who were purists in their statistical sampling.

Put in a few interesting circumstances, Comey admitting the investigation into Hillary, the rise of the Far-right against all the B.S. the progressives are creating on the left (SafeSpaces, calling anyone who disagree hitler, calling for an end to free speech and 2A, virtue signaling, etc)

and a number of other factors. Personally I still think they are going to 187 him before 2020 or once certain stock, market, economic position are in place to handle the crash that would happen from something like this.

On the other end, as long as he picks is battles and plays nice with whoever is the highest up on the pyramid, then he can get the ones lower on the rung to turn on each other.

Is all a complex game of IRL Civ

Also the media calling him out on the stupid shit he does is so unfair that he's gotta go partner with the Saudis, who are funding militant Islamists?

he's gotta go partner with the Saudis, who are funding militant Islamists?

perhaps you forgot that the last guy was buddy buddy with them as well, and Bush flew some of the out of the U.S. when 9/11 happened. Or you forgot about the US dollar is a Petro Dollar controlled by the Saudis who can single handedly collapse the American economy by dropping USD as mandatory for Oil trade, or that they own a ton of our debt.

I'm sure you are also unaware that a mini revolution just happened in S.A. and a new Prince took over who is progressive, allowing women to drive, allowing AMC to build movie theaters there, and all of a sudden a shit ton of ISIS financing, firepower, and numbers have all dried up

So the only reason you believe in Trump is because everyone else doesn't? That's infallible logic.

So the only reason you believe in Trump is because everyone else doesn't?

I'm a libertarian, so I was a "fuck both sides" gut from the get go. The reason I think he is legit now, because he has done plenty of Fuck You's to the system, called out the Globalists, didn;t sign the Globalist Paris Agreement, renegotiating Tariffs, Steel, the N.K. deal, the Muellers/Clintons/MI5/FBI after him, the media lying about him (while they sucked off Obama for 8 years) and many MANY other reasons.

That's infallible logic.

It's not. My take is this. Take yourself as an example and imagine you win the Presidency with the promises that you will make 9/11 transparent, you will break up the corporations so there is more top money going to the people, you will back the dollar to gold and get off the FED, and you will do ________ (all the shit that we here in r/conspiracy know needs to be changed).

Everything is all good, you get into the Whitehouse, sit down at your desk for the first day, and everyone of these guys walks in with a gun to your head

Also, remember that you also had to give lip service to AIPAC/Israel as a toll to even be allowed to have your campaign funds not frozen, not be sabotaged, and not be assassinated by Mossad.

So there you are with everyone having that proverbial and literal in some cases, gun to your head.

Any move you make has to be within the limits of those who have their guns pointed at you.

For example. You want to get away from, have nothing to do with the Saudis anymore and pull all the troops and all resources, etc from anything Saudi based? Guess what?

You're fucked:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/petrodollar-us-saudi-policy_b_6245914.html

Any move you would like to make or told the people you were going to make is limited by the above breakdown, Saudi control over the U.S. via the Petrodollar and the fact that they are your Debt holders:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/16/investing/saudi-arabia-us-debt-ownership-revealed/index.html

You want to End the Fed, fix the banking system and make the dollar gold backed again? Lol, you're fucked!

The Bankster System via the Rothschilds is deeply embedded in the U.S. and they have a thousand ways til Sunday to collapse your whole economy to make it look like its all your fault, people would die in this new Depression and you would be done by your first term.

That same Rothschild's Banking system is headquartered in England and runs MI5 Deepstate and U.S. Deepstate. So if you dont play nice, they will make sure their agents create Dossiers that the media they own runs with to smear the shit out of you if you dont play by their rules, and you will be done by your first term.

Entertainment Industry? Deeply embedded with that same Bankster system which bankrolls all funding in Hollywood so all they have to do is have 5 top stars come out to speak out against you to turn the tide across the country, so you are done by your first term.

So really, your only option in that image is to chose your fights wisely. You can fight against the media, hollywood, the Clinton machine, some special interests, U.N., GOP Elites, and all of the smaller groups.

However, the Banksters, the Globalist controllers, The Saudis, Israel, and whoever owns your debt are those you have no options to do anything about because any chess move you make, already has hundred moves that will chekmate your ass.

Right bc it's not obviously a distraction

its another Nothingburger.

I'm sure mueller could find evidence to impeach trump for dozens of crimes but thats not the point.

Trump proves all the time hes just a permabebt state stooge. Jurusalem sealed it for me personally but I'd always assumed he was because you dont get selected in a primary if youre not on the team. The elections are staged but our voting is real. It just doesnt matter when your choice is shit or shit. The idea is they will always win. If voting mattered you wouldnt be allowed to do it.

The investigation is a dog and pony show to make people think their voice matters. Mueller and trump are owned by the same masters. The only ones getting indicted are going to be people in his orbit but they'll magically find nothing to charge him with.

The stormy thing is actually an attack on Cohen. He pissed somebody off somehow. So hes going to be the one to take the fall for everything. Campaign finance violations. Probably intimidation.

Nice write up. However I still lean turns the Deepstate taking out trump JFK style once the Mueller investigation finds nothing. I can certainly see it as a purge of the wrong people that deepstate doesnt want around so he's more easily controlled, however, if Mueller and Trump were on the same team, it would be really inefficient to have these investigations and bad press.

The Gov has these CIV type statistical modeling analyzers that spit out various scenarios, and the state of the people being divided right now has both net positives and negatives as well, however I dont think it benefits deepstate for us to all be divided and for trump to be prez because him being in his position, I have never in my life seen so many people awaken to Conspiracies and Deepstate as just the last 2 years.

They would be better of having everyone play nice like when Obama was Prez and most were in a slumber and out sub was left alone to us 'tin foil nutters'. instead of the left coming here now and taking us seriously and freaking the hell out.

I have weighed your point, however trump is too off the rocker compared to how 'they' want him to be, like a flashbang thrown into a old folks home

I think all tge press is trump generated he just loces seeing everyone talk about him and he knows how to get people riled up. The details are up to the players but they have rules they have to follow.

he has it if he solves the north korea problem, and by the sounds of it he already did.

Lets ignore for a second the fact that nothing has actually happened yet and that North Korea's promises are worth nothing.

What has trump personally done to rectify the situation with North Korea?

kim anounced today he is shutting down the nuke test site, and no more missiles will be tested. pompeo went over there and arranged a meeting. part of what happened in syria in mho was a message to kim. also that wierd little cave in at the test site a while back was a strike.

And the South Korean president gave the credit to Trump for keeping strict with the sanctions.

yup i think we are about to see reunification, opening of borders, and huge win win for donald. and all involved.

This is a win for Korea. I believe the Korea's would now rather choose to reunify of their own accord, then the inevitable forced reunification that would have otherwise occurred under an ascendant China.

Or yet another Kim will pull a fast one on a West led by Trump, who I fear would tolerate the typical North Korean tricky-dick act far worse then the average President.

This is a lose lose situation in geopolitics for TPTB but great for the people. China and the US are both interested in North Korea for its deposits of natural resources. On top of that a united Korea would be another regional power that the US or China would have trouble controlling without force.

They agreed to "suspend" the program. This is a routine thing that they do, typically when they need aid. They did it in 2012:

North Koreans Agree to Freeze Nuclear Work; U.S. to Give Aid

Here's an article from 1998 called Time To Stop North Korea's Missile Blackmail

I thought he said the Jeff sessions needs to let go of reffer madness but one will cover it.

It feels like the dam is about to break.

Lol no this is just the same political theater it's always been. Man people are seriously fucking dumb when it comes to that. I want to believe that most people involved in politics right now are actually 17 years old and new to it all - but it's pretty pathetic when you have full blown adults who have lived through multiple elections and decades who still don't understand what political THEATER is.

What are you 19 then? The stakes have never been this big, the power never so consolidated, the people never so independently able to communicate, and in almost 300 years of United States history we’ve never had a president who wasn’t a politician or military man.

Yeah this is business as usual.

Everyone should love this lawsuit. The Democrats just formally laid out exactly what they think happened, on the record, with every word scrutinized. It's a good thing.

No. It's the same lawsuit that was tossed last year. You can't sue WikiLeaks for publishing. The DNC should be worried that all their secrets can be subpoenad during discovery.

Read the filing. They have not went on the record of what they think Russia and Trump did to them. Now they have as publicly as possible. Read it.

I'm sure Robert Mueller would like to see this proof too

He has it if it exists. The fact that the case isn't closed yet, does not mean that the evidence is not there or that they don't have it. He's tasked with a massive case. They have to complete each aspect before he can write the report and he's not going to go after the President with loose ends in other places...

If this is your point, you're very very wrong on how all this works.

keep dreaming about that evidence that will impeach Trump, ok?

Who is dreaming? You're playing games. I'm talking about an investigation that is essentially a black box neither of us can see in. But you know that there is no evidence... You fuckin don't, guy. Neither the fuck do I.

a water truck and and a vinegar truck collide.

what noise does it make?

doooooooosh

We have such good role models

We have the best role models.

our families? I Agree

I'm doubtful, but hopefully the Hillary torture vid.

I promise that if such a thing exists that it will be a fake and used only to discredit those who promote it.

I am not a Hilary Clinton fan (I have hated her for over 2 decades, in spite of liking Bill in the 90's), but she is smart enough to stay multiple steps away's from anything that incriminating.

Maybe I am underestimating what she is capable of, but if you look at how she accomplishes the most shady shit you can imagine is through the use of third parties connected to proxies, so she has multiple levels of plausible deniability. She gets caught over and over and that is how she is able to stay out of trouble.

If she left her ass in the breeze to participate in something so damning first hand, it would go against so many previous examples that I would have a REAL hard time believing it.

Unless she's got some shady shit on a bunch of others that has kept her able to coerce those others to act like she wants... Possibly a stretch but possibly not too.

That's the kind of open mindedness we love in this sub. You can already promise us that such a thing, if discovered, is fake. Brainwashed much?

1) We've been doing this meddling in international elections around the world for the last 7 decades since World War II. We the world brought this up after the election, our Democrats told them something along the lines that it is our given right to interfere in foreign affairs, but god forbid they interfere with us, that simply isn't Funny and it's strictly not allowed!

2) WikiLeaks is essentially the free press run wild. If we want to prove to the world just how meaning less our bill of rights is, god damn, we're doing it.

3) WikiLeaks' best sources for stolen hacked emails was from within the DNC itself, showing direct collusion between the DNC and Hillary Clinton against Bernie Sanders. Are we mad that about this collusion, or are we just mad that we got caught and then Trump won because the general Independent public held us accountable by simply not turning out to vote?

4) The swamp does need to be drained, and Trump is one of the largest frogs in it. Do not ever forget, he was a Democrat up until the Whitehouse Correspondents' Dinner that essentially turned into the Roast of Donald Trump.

5) We have got to start taking responsibility for ourselves, and we have to own our mistakes. We let the DNC turn into the ugly affair, we let the GOP turn into the ugly affair, and no matter how bad it gets, We Keep Voting for them. At no point do we let education get in the way of picking the best candidate, nor do we let reason help us weight and measure our news sources. No, we are gossips, bullies, and we believe in snitches getting stiches instead of upholding the whistleblower as the voice of integrity that it is. In other words, we deserve this - but we're still blaming everybody but ourselves for what has happened.

6) Part of that responsibility is to get ourselves educated on facts instead of dreams. Face it, we are a country in a global community where the freedom of speech knows now boundaries except in China where they have a pretty effective cyber wall around their internet keeping us out and their citizens in. Face it, Money is colorless manna that can be turned into any power at will, and power is what wins elections as long as voters refuse to critically evaluate their candidates. We will never remove money from the election process so long as speech and power influences elections - and money buys speech quicker than any other power.

7) Instead of reading any proposition as "this will fund things Like education and roads" we have to get it through to our head to read every proposition in the WORST light possible. If it says "Like," then it means they will use the money to fund whatever they want to fund, they don't care. It also means they will stop funding whatever by replacing the funds that are already spent on those expenditures with this new money and then using the old money for projects elsewhere. This issue goes from the smallest city council all the way up to the federal candidates themselves.

8) I have little hope any of this will ever happen.

4) The swamp does not need to be drained.

And here's where you lost me. Had some other good points though

That's not what their comment says.

Oh looks like it was changed. Deleting now, thanks

I legit can't believe they're suing. Can I sue them for the shit they pull with bernie? Oh wait, no.

Sure you can.

Of course, you'd have to actually prove that they did what you think they did, and you'd have to show that you've somehow been injured by their supposed actions, and then you might have to explain why Bernie isn't the real aggrieved party, and why he isn't suing...

But otherwise, go for it.

... except we did sue them, and proof was presented. They just changed the rules and stated that the DNC is a private organization that can do what it wants when it wants and isn't beholden to its members or contributors. I'm pretty sure that's what u/20thsieclefox was referring to.

Yes, that is what I am referring too.

They just changed the rules and stated that the DNC is a private organization that can do what it wants when it wants and isn't beholden to its members or contributors

As a private organization, isn't that exactly their right?

I mean, Bernie could have run as an independent. He could have worked with them. Instead, he decided he wanted their money and complain when they didn't do exactly what he wanted.

Don't like it? Push to get rid of FPTP, so we can have multiple viable parties.

The DNC literally has the legal right to declare whoever they want as their candidate. That does not mean they did, that means the judge wasn't going to address the claims that they did when there was no legal relevance.

you know how all these states are making teachers unions "re-certify" every time they negotiate a new contract?

they make the union take a vote, and it has to be approved by 50%+1 of all affected employees, not just of all voters.

needless to say, getting people to show up to vote is hard enough as it is, so this is a union-busting tactic, being rolled out in all 50 states by the likes of ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council)

now, all we have to do is study the language of these new bills and laws, and use it as a template to break up the Democrat and Republican parties

in states where the people are allowed to have ballot initiatives, we push these through into laws

then, when neither the Dems or GOP can get enough voters to show up and "re-certify" the political parties, both parties are de-certified and suspended for 2 years etc

lets do this... partisan politics sucks.

bills become laws by mutual shady deals instead of by individual merit

The RNC and DNC have fooled the American people into thinking they are actually a real sanctioned and functional part of the (federal) government, and they are not(even though they have some legal status in states and such iirc).

lets get rid of the political parties by forcing them to re-certify and then follow up by de-certifying them

Someone already did. They utterly and completely failed to do the things you said, and lost the suit.

They tried to sue the DNC for things that don't actually violate any laws. And the judge' response was basically "Yeah... this isn't the place for this". People (intentionally, in some cases) misinterpreted the judge's ruling to mean the DNC is allowed to rig the elections, which isn't at all what the judge said.

The DNC did the same thing during Watergate and it worked FYI. They settle with the Nixon administration the day he left office. So not farfetched that it wouldn't work here if Mueller's investigation continues down its current route.

And the DNC is a private organization. Can't sue them for what they chose to do internally (I say that as a Bernie voter)

Wasn't there a text between Strzok and Page the day after the election, where she made the comment that she needed to pick up a copy of All The Presidents Men, so that she could brush up on Watergate?

Can't sue them for what they chose to do internally

Which is essentially what the judge said when people tried to sue the DNC.

They did get sued.

The judge threw the case out because he ruled the DNC is allowed to rig their own shit if they want to.

I know, that's the joke.

so by the results of that lawsuit, it can be argued that the DNC is not entitled to sue under some presumed threat to democracy, since they are in fact just another private organization that needs to fold up shop

They did get sued for that. DNC lawyers argued that they could favor whoever they wanted because it is technically a private organization

This is just a hilarious publicity stunt.

I think this is purely to add a monetary disincentive for Trump to pardon people. IF, and it's a big if, anyone is actually charged with colluding with Russia, an acceptance of a pardon includes an admission of guilt which would then be used against the defendants of this civil case.

They must be pretty sure nobody has evidence of the Voting Booth 'Errors' that wouldve forced a Hillary win... Hope nobody documented all that in 2016 ;-)

Oh yes. Downvote me so nobody remembers. That will save you

From a historical standpoint, in 1945, this was the day stalin celebrated hitlers birthday with a massive artillery bombardment of berlin. Rather then fleeing back to bavaria, he decided to hunker down instead.
It didnt work out to well for him.

Could someone remind me who else bavaria is know for?

King Ludwig II

Crazy Wittelsbachs

all of this nonsense, for nearly every day of the last ~2 years, is to shore up the "legitimacy" of the idiotic Red vs Blue party politics

They are going to expose the government psyop taking place where you have factions of various intelligence agencies pushing psyops on social media, and how that it is highly unethical.

The Russian collusion investigation has turned up nothing substantial in years, mostly business deals forgotten to be disclosed and other procedural gaffs. The investigation backfired, finding criminal actions by the FBI, exposed the purposeful botching of the Hillary investigation, the rigged DNC primaries, a hugely questionable raiding of a lawyer, and otherwise exposed the corruption of the whole matter. All of this stemming from a British intelligence operation with Steele to load a US president with criminal investigations so he cannot lead effectively. When this is said and done, we'll be reminded why presidents are supposed to be absolved of such petty and baseless persecutions. The whole thing has degraded into a Gish Gallop of sissy slapping fight out of desperation as the opposition tries to pretend there is still some essence of pressure against the Trump administration, while that ship has long sailed and swung back the other way.

Have your upvote. Pretty obvious which posters are working overtime in this discussion.

BuzzFeed Is Suing the D.N.C. Over Issues Involving the Russia Dossier

BuzzFeed believes that evidence of the alleged D.N.C. break-in by Russian hackers might help the online publisher in a libel suit. But the D.N.C. says releasing information might make it vulnerable to more hacking.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/02/buzzfeed-dnc-lawsuit-russia-dossier

Buzzfeed May hilariously destroy the DNC over server intrusion lawsuit.

https://youtu.be/bhDd95opWcU

https://archive.is/ZX27N

The DNC suit is almost certainly about forcing the Trump campaign to go through the discovery process.

Beyond that, what's different about what Republicans are doing that they haven't been doing since Trump took office?

Any judge worth their salt should throw it out immediately. Why? because it is quite obvious that the whole point of this is, as you say, go through the discovery process, which in itself is a normal action, as long as the lawyers involved don't leak what they find. Which they will, because the DNC doesn't need to win the lawsuit, they just need to get enough damning material out into the public's eyes to achieve their real goal.

Would the DNC have to give up their servers in the discovery process?

we could be witnessing the hostile takeover of the DNC

This is classic "Clintonian Triangulation". Accuse others of what you're guilty of.

DNC wasn't hacked, it was a leak. Guccifer 2 was created to cover up that leak. Their 'hacked' servers weren't turned over to the FBI, but instead given to their friends at a private corporation, CrowdStrike. Anyone paying close attention knows the Dem Primary was a complete sham, with registrations being hacked, voter suppression, election fraud, exit polls being changed to match the 'results', copious amounts of absentee ballots showing up at certain caucuses ( all supporting HRC ). The Russian scapegoat was concocted after the leak. They continued to double down on the scapegoat during the election, paying for Steele Dossier. And of course, that's all we've heard from them since the election.

Now they are suing Russia, before any actual evidence of collusion has been found. What are they suing for? A handful of Bots and 100k worth of FB ads? Bots who retweeted Joy Ann Reid, (essentially) a Hillary surrogate? ( speaking of bots & trolls, Hillary spent quite a bit of money on Correct The Record trolls.

This is just them trying to quadruple down on the big Russia is to blame lie. I think they think if they shout this big, simple lie enough, then their base will believe it. I hope this all crashes down hard on them, and soon. I also hope this drives even more people away from their corrupt shell of a party.

It's exactly this. Eventually they are going to run out of scams though

Why do you fall for this? Evause it conforms to your world view?

because everything points to it

why do you choose to stick you fingers in your ears and hands over your eyes on this? Because it doesn't conform to your world view?

all you have to do is check post history to see he posts in r/the_Mueller and r/subreddit cancer to know that you are dealing with something like this

They used to not come here at all, but something changed like 4-6 months ago when it all started inorganically

DNC wasn't hacked, it was a leak.

It was private emails. They were "hacked". I like how you provided no proof to the premise before going into why it's a conspiracy. Russian agents got access to a political parties emails. Oh, I can't wait until China hacks the Republicans. I ain't going to say shit, just write fan fiction like ya'll.

Ohh yes, that report based entirely around the ridiculous premise about download speeds? The one that's been laughed off by everyone with any knowledge of IT at all.

Here's an article that totally contradicts his claims I also found in 3 seconds.

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346468-why-the-latest-theory-about-the-dnc-not-being-a-hack-is-probably-wrong

If you go to the actual article that salon is talking about, they have since added a editors note

"...Nation editors themselves raised questions about the editorial process that preceded the publication of the article. The article was indeed fact-checked to ensure that Patrick Lawrence, a regular Nation contributor, accurately reported the VIPS analysis and conclusions, which he did. As part of the editing process, however, we should have made certain that several of the article’s conclusions were presented as possibilities, not as certainties. And given the technical complexity of the material, we would have benefited from bringing on an independent expert to conduct a rigorous review of the VIPS technical claims.... We have obtained such a review in the last week from Nathan Freitas of the Guardian Project. He has evaluated both the VIPS memo and Lawrence’s article. Freitas lays out several scenarios in which the DNC could have been hacked from the outside, although he does not rule out a leak. ... We have also learned since publication, from longtime VIPS member Thomas Drake, that there is a dispute among VIPS members themselves about the July 24 memo. This is not the first time a VIPS report has been internally disputed, but it is the first time one has been released over the substantive objections of several VIPS members. "

Russia has nothing to do with the email leak

Except they do because they stole it then leaked it

Wow. Russia may have leaked the emails proving Hillary conspiring against Bernie and buying the DNC outright. Russia totally made the DNC do those awful things.

So just gloss over the fact people's private emails were attacked for your politics. How typical.

Yes, just gloss over the truth because of evil Russia.

the DNC is going to collapse soon

Inside Hillary Clinton’s Secret Takeover of the DNC

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

https://www.npr.org/2017/11/03/561976645/clinton-campaign-had-additional-signed-agreement-with-dnc-in-2015

. #0p6d #0p4c #0p64s #0p6dDNC #0p4cDNC #0p64sDNC #0p6dHRC #0p4cHRC #0p64sHRC #Panon #Qanon #Qcode #Q

That's the MSM narrative they're trying to trick people into accepting, but not the truth

Yeah except you're an anon on the internet. Russia took the emails. Case closed.

and the browns won the super bowl I guess

And somehow you came across some magic evidence that a dude who was murdered was a Bernie fan or a leaker. No evidence he was a Bernie fan. No evidence he leaked anything because he wasn't even in IT Admin.

Im not claiming Seth Rich was the leaker. We dont know who leaked the emails from the inside. All we know is that they weren't hacked, but leaked.

Ah so you're just saying it's leaked from the inside because it fits your narrative. Got it.

no, because it was...

you can't leak something if you're not on the inside...

Can't leak anything if it wasn't a leak

i think its fishy that the DC Police immediately decided Seth Rich was a robbery victim, and refused to reconsider in light of the ample motive for his assassination

Well in order to establish motive for the DNC to kill him, as they are satanic pedophiles in the eyes of republican partisans, they need proof he leaked emails.

Which you do not have. You don't even have convincing evidence the guy liked Bernie.

Synagogue of Satan

Do you?

but it was a leak

Holy shit. This fucking stupid need to make every fucking evil thing Trump and the Republicans do about Hilary and the deep State needs to stop. You just look idiotic.

We have the biggest conspiracy in 50 years, and this fucking sub wants to jack off to fantasies about Clinton controlling the world and paedo pizza. If she was so fucking powerful then she would have won.

We have the biggest conspiracy in 50 years

what are you referring to...

9/11..¿

If she was so fucking powerful then she would have won.

You can only rig it so much without it being insanely obvious. They extremely underestimated the voting base because in the summer of 2016 supporting Trump could lose you your job.

Sun Tzu

What's it called when you make a ton of claims you know are false but there's so many of them, you know no one will take the effort to correct all of them.

DNC emails were leaked? Voter suppression .... election fraud? All of those claims are totally false, there's no basis for them, and they've been debunked over and over, but they just keep popping up wherever they're convenient. And it's just too exhausting to go through and show how each one of them is false, and you know that.

Meanwhile there's ample evidence of Russia hacking the DNC and coordination withTrump's campaign via Roger Stone and Don Jr.

Gosh gallop

Ok then so post your ample supply of evidence.

DNC emails were leaked?

lol cmon man, everyone knows they were leaked.

election fraud?

yes, Bernie should have won the primary

Well, your evidence has convinced me.

if youre serious about the truth look into it yourself. dont take my word for it. see for yourself

Hillary is tired of hearing about how nobody likes her

notice the publishing date:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-campaign-staff-apos-150005238.html

https://nypost.com/2017/10/25/nyc-elections-board-admits-to-purging-voters-from-rolls/

Oh look, voter rolls in Bernnie's hometown purged right before the primary! No fraud here!

Bernie got beat 60-40 in his "hometown" ... why would someone want to take voters out in a place where he got destroyed?

And when the wrongfully purged votes ended up being counted, they went about 60-40 for Clinton. So what point were you trying to make?

Total idiot. Those voters never got to vote. That is exactly why Clinton won. Begon shill.

Meanwhile there's ample evidence of Russia hacking the DNC

really? why do i keep hearing that someone on the inside probably used a USB drive?

and coordination withTrump's campaign via Roger Stone and Don Jr.

yeah, so apparently that Russian lawyer that came to meet to Don Jr was banned from entering the US because of her stint in Russian intelligence

she got a special visa issued for the sole purpose of her meeting with Don Jr

https://truepundit.com/feds-drop-bombshell-comey-illegal-scheme-involved-entire-u-s-intel-community/ #0p6d #0p4c #0p64s

> All of those claims are totally false, there's no basis for them, and they've been debunked over and over

Gish Gallop of blanket denials, right there.

i dont think the DNC currently has a "base" in the sense that the current DNC Standard Bearer is still HRC, and will remain so until a new candidate is s/elected

in the meantime, HRC continues their downward spiral

just today at yahoo.com big headline :

Hillary Clinton to Campaign Staff: 'I Am Getting Pretty Tired of Hearing About How Nobody Likes Me'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-campaign-staff-apos-150005238.html

and in the meantime, the DNC is having money problems, which allowed HRC to strong arm a take over of the party

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7ygifv/so_the_dnc_gets_away_with_cheating_against_bernie/

Seems surreal, but remember, it's 4/20. It's entirely possible we're all just really high and tripping out. Chemtrails!

They are shadowbanning like fuck on Twitter.

I bet they are. They love to shadow ban and lock accounts. Twitter censors like crazy.

So, who killed Seth Rich?

Probably the same guys who were robbing other people in that same neighborhood. The ones who pistol whipped a group of people a couple of blocks away a couple of hours before he was shot and killed.

Except he wasnt robbed.

That's why its called a botched robbery. His watch strap was torn, so it was certainly an attempted robbery

That's why its called a botched robbery. His watch strap was torn, so it was certainly an attempted robbery

Bullshit. That is why it is called retribution for destroying Hillary's campaign.

yup, john podesta wanted to make an example out of him

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36082

people who don't have issues making an example out of someone

Hillary: You want answers ?... Sessions: I think I'm entitled.. Hillary : DO YOU WANT ANSWERS ??? Sessions : I WANT THE TRUTH !!!!! Hillary : YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH !

Makes no sense. Lawsuits take time to prepare. You don't whip one up -- especially one like this -- on a Friday to try to kill some other story.

If the 11 Republicans who wrote the letter calling for prosecution of Comey, McCabe, et al. were trying to hide a Friday news dump, they would have released it ON FRIDAY.

The sad part is, the people dont seem to care enough to demand a real change.

We have had a god damn plane circling over our office for over an hour, flight aware says its a unregistered plane and it has no windows. Its been as low as 200FT altitude GOING FAST, circle after circle. I was tripping out and telling my coworker, blood sacrifice, but he didn't get it. The plane had no windows at all... Looked really strange. Perhaps a false flag coming? Our office is literally less than a quarter mile from one of the largest refineries in California. Imagine that thing just dive bombing into a refinery and it had explosives on board.

War.

as in someone knows they are fucked?

This makes me very, very concerned about all of that dynamite that went missing recently.

What dynamite?

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This is where this was always going...

Out of all of these comments, there are like two by people who know why this lawsuit is happening because they actually know history. What does that say about the other 70 commenters? Don't just guess. Try to fucking learn something in here.

Do you know what an ouroboro is?

no, please elaborate

Its probably because he didnt bomb syria enough. He only did the missile strikes to make some of the deep state happy.

Sure i dont trust Trump, but i think he was being pushed into bombing Syria because a week prior he said we would be pulling troops OUT of Syria.

So "powers that be" wanted the war to continue probably just to make money off of missiles and defence companies. So a chemical attack was faked to try to force public opinion and put pressure on Trump to continue war.

Trump did the missile strike to appease the warmongers and they are not happy with his half ass missile strike and future strategic plans...

The Democrats are insane to try and sue on the claim that the "Russians hacked their server". Because then they have to PROVE their server was hacked at all.

Comey was more than willing to look the other way when the DNC refused to allow the FBI to check their system.

In a court case, they're going to have to 1) prove that their server was even hacked [something they've been hitherto reluctant to do] and 2) Prove that it wasn't an inside job by Seth Rich. Which NSA and CIA analysts have ALREADY proven was the case, with the download times on the documents which indicate that the information was downloaded onto a flash drive, not moved over the internet.

Good luck, DNC! And by the way, Imran Awan says, "Hi". He looks forward to being deposed and telling the grand jury about how you used a Pakistani Intelligence operate to spy on Congressmen and Senators, to funnel their private correspond and Top Secret communications to foreign intelligence agencies.

I can't wait to see Debbie Wasserman-Schultz answer some of the questions put to her by the opposing counsel.

got bottle of whisky, don't care...

Unless she's got some shady shit on a bunch of others that has kept her able to coerce those others to act like she wants... Possibly a stretch but possibly not too.

That's the kind of open mindedness we love in this sub. You can already promise us that such a thing, if discovered, is fake. Brainwashed much?

We have the best role models.

our families? I Agree

That's why its called a botched robbery. His watch strap was torn, so it was certainly an attempted robbery

Nice write up. However I still lean turns the Deepstate taking out trump JFK style once the Mueller investigation finds nothing. I can certainly see it as a purge of the wrong people that deepstate doesnt want around so he's more easily controlled, however, if Mueller and Trump were on the same team, it would be really inefficient to have these investigations and bad press.

The Gov has these CIV type statistical modeling analyzers that spit out various scenarios, and the state of the people being divided right now has both net positives and negatives as well, however I dont think it benefits deepstate for us to all be divided and for trump to be prez because him being in his position, I have never in my life seen so many people awaken to Conspiracies and Deepstate as just the last 2 years.

They would be better of having everyone play nice like when Obama was Prez and most were in a slumber and out sub was left alone to us 'tin foil nutters'. instead of the left coming here now and taking us seriously and freaking the hell out.

I have weighed your point, however trump is too off the rocker compared to how 'they' want him to be, like a flashbang thrown into a old folks home