There's an ongoing agenda to masculinize women and feminize men.

125 2018-03-10 by OB1_kenobi

First off, a couple of links.

Masculinization of women & feminisation of men - Neo feminist Agenda - Mark Passio

The Conspiracy to Feminize Men and Masculinize Women

The reason I'm posting this is because it's an issue that affects us all. Men's test levels and sperm counts have been dropping for decades. The age of puberty has been dropping in an unnatural way as well.

These things should be cause for concern. You'd think they're be all kinds of research into finding a solution and bringing things back to normal, but there isn't. It's almost like they don't want to find out because someone already knows what the answer will be.

Instead we get Hollywood and Bill Nye and the rest of the media pushing us to accept feminization of men and masculinization of women as "the new normal".

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I believe this to be a side-effect rather than the end goal. I believe the end goal is sterilization and illness through food, through plastics, shit even if you try to avoid endocrine disrupters at all cost, remember that those printed receipts are covered in BPA, it transferred through touch. The powers that be are into Eugenics, they see us as burdens and are actively trying to slowly poison us.

remember that those printed receipts are covered in BPA

The thermal ones right?

Yes, I read that just holding one in your bare hand for 30 seconds was enough to create measurable exposure to an estrogen mimic (BPA?)

Why do we need receipts like this? Why not keep the old ones that used regular paper and a bit of ink?

You're right, you can clearly see the war on males in culture with the clear phasing out of strong masculine role models from media.

Men have the power to bring about change in society, so if you want to uphold the status quo it makes sense to neuter males. Women would never start a revolution.

Women started both the French and Russian revolutions.

Gender roles have always sucked. Good riddance. This vision alt-right conservitards have of a 50's utopia where everyone followed gender roles and everyone liked it never existed except in their minds.

Gender roles are like religion, a bunch of logical fallacies wrapped in a pretty package of ego and authoritarianism. If you study religions around the world, you find they have many commonalities in their structure and beliefs. But that doesn't make them true! It just means that when humans are stupid they tend to be stupid in the same ways over and over again. Think: If gender roles were natural, there would be no need to put so much effort into enforcing them. Regressives suffer a deep cognitive dissonance, they assert that enforcing gender roles is soooo berry important because they are soo "natural".

Environmental pollution causing endocrine disruption and the acceptance of different gender expressions in the media are separate things. The former, admittedly, should be a cause for concern. But the health of modern people in developed countries is so rekt, focusing on one particular symptom is short-sighted.

The real conspiracy is that exposure to toxins and pollution is being twisted into a divisive social-norms issue so that sane, altruistic people will dismiss the objective facts, just like how economic issues get twisted into racism. No matter how much a society and oppresses and clamps down on homosexuality and trans people, they are always there. So many young LGBTQA people grow up in environments where unconventional gender expression is unthinkable, where they've never even heard of it and they think they are the only one, or they watch it get punished with social ostrization, imprisonment, torture and death, but it lives on anyway. The only objective problem with it is the pain and stress it causes to idiots with tiny conformist brains.

I don't mind.

I think this has less to do with a conspiracy, and is a side effect of overpopulation. There's no scientific data to back up this belief though.

They’re turning our frogs ghey!!

gay frogs with fewer, but super strong sperm :)

If you allow yourself to become “feminized” because of society or the government then you deserve it tbh

Stop blaming everyone else and take responsibility for your own life

You can't help ingesting the chemicals and not attaining sufficient nutrients from our garbage food. Along with all the brainwashing that comes from watching T.V. to get men to think that they need to eat burgers and steak every day from Hardee's etc. Yes, we can help some things. But with the governments technology and strangle hold they have on us, it's very hard to avoid its inevitability. What an ignorant comment.

You can't help ingesting the chemicals and not attaining sufficient nutrients from our garbage food. Along with all the brainwashing that comes from watching T.V.

Sounds like some bullsht excuses to me. I live in the same shithole as you guys but I’m not being “feminized”. Stop making excuses and get better

Sounds to me like their campaign to dumb you down is working magnificently. Keep it up and let me know how you're doing in 10 years. If we make it that long.

People have been saying the same shit for generations. Study some history my dude

How ironic that you would say that. Maybe you need to study some more history. I guarantee you I know more about what has happened than you, if you are ignorant enough to be saying these things. But I digress.

I feel no need to try to compete with you lol. I’m not perfect at history but I have well above average. Considering you know so much about history it’s crazy you are falling for the trap so many of the past have

I'm not trying to compete with you, I'm just trying to get you to realize that you're being ignorant. But I guess you can't fix stupid.

Said the guy who believes the end times are coming in 10 years lmao

You definitely are being feminized on a small level, your body just may tolerate it better

We are all constantly ingesting and touching compounds that exhibit estrogenic activity in the body

To say it comes down to bullshit excuses is laughably absurd. You are woefully uninformed, this is the problem we're discussing in this thread

I eat really damn healthy so I have no problem. Maybe stop living an obese lifestyle and you might be better off. Never mind, it’s easier to make excuses, right?

my body responds better than others to the same compounds, so obviously there's no problem, fatty

There, ftfy

So you don't use plastics at all, right? Do you wash your hands after everytime you touch a receipt? There are plasticizers in drinking water across the country ffs. You are so dense that you don't even understand the point we're making here

This has nothing to do with your "super healthy" eating habits, you smug mislead elitist. Both my body and my lifestyle are far from being obese, you presumptuous dolt. I probably eat much like you do, if not better; almost no processed foods, organic everything as much as possible, basically no red meat consumption and limited meat consumption in general, i pay attention to my vitamin, mineral and additional nutrient intakes and vary foods regularly.

It doesn't matter if you're eating bags of watercress, you're still eating food that was packaged in plastic, which in a lot of cases will cause compounds to leech into the food. Past that, these compounds are everywhere else in modern society, it's inescapable.

But yeah, just eat healthy bro, that'll fix it. You are absolutely hilarious

basically no red meat consumption and limited meat consumption in general

Lmao

Literally stopped reading here. You have no idea what you are doing. But you want to blame society. Classic

So you stopped reading at basically the end, and you couldn't even discuss my actual point?

Have you even taken in any of the information that multiple people are trying to convey to you?

Tell me what my point is.

Also your research skills are appallingly poor. I'm going to be honest with you, and I know it's going to be a shock, but you're actually a dumb person. And I don't mean that as an insult, you just don't have great critical thinking skills.

Let that sink in for a sec. You're unwilling or unable to accept new information. You. Are. Dumb. People like you are a huge reason for why this world is so fucked, and even worse, you're too much of a numbskull to even realize how fucked it is.

Also, high red meat consumption is very strongly linked to a whole host of health issues. You have done absolutely piss poor research. Go eat a steak, you misguided dunce

I dont think he's worried about himself, as he is the one pointing out the problem. Sounds like he's talking about society in general.

And my argument is there is no problem. Well, at least not OPs theory. The reason why men are being “feminized” has nothing to do with society, but personal choice. Which I’m completely fine with

Do you know what an estrogen is fucktard? Go google what happened to frogs with an estrogenized water supply.

Making the freakin frogs gay! I love you guys lol

Soy, not even once!

The primary target is kids & teens.
ie, the segment of the population that typically doesn't have a developed ability to recognize and resist conditioning/programming attempts.
That's why we still have a couple billion Christians.

Maybe if people didn’t neglect their children there wouldn’t be an issue

There's always one....

Case in point is hugely overblown anti-cholesterol propaganda - cholesterol in used by the body for synthesizing testosterone, and men without testosterone become obedient pussies who will rather cry in the corner than stand against the oppression.

OP, just remember there is an overload of shills and useful idiot soyboys pushing confirmation bias all over this place. You know the truth, don't let the idiots work you up.

welcome to life 2.0

There's a lot about us that THEY don't like.

They don't like male aggression (revolution) They don't like female compassion (socialism)

So now men are told to cut their balls off ("trans rights") So now women are told to to self sterilize ("career comes first")

I agree. Think of all those commercials where the white guy is doing something stupid or obviously incorrect, and the woman comes and basically shows him how to do it, while the whole audience is thinking "duhhhhh lol guys are so like that!!!!

More accurately, they're trying to produce men who don't feel so powerful (who feel like they are below the government, police and other designated authority, and are okay with it).
And women who are more likely to join the military, get jobs & pay taxes (and buy things), spend less time with their kids and be apathetic to atrocities carried out against others (particularly innocents abroad, at the hands of the military and corporations).

Unless there is an alien plot, the agenda is not to make us androgynous, but rather to get humanity to accept androgyny because all of the pollution in our environment is making us that way and tptb would rather keep taking in the dough than pay the cost to do business the right way.

Run a search for "fish pollution transgender" and see for yourself. Skip the frogs, skip the Alex Jones bullshit.

but rather to get humanity to accept androgyny because all of the pollution in our environment is making us that way

This is one of the best answers I've seen so far.

A lot of people have given apathetic "I don't care" answers... or straight up denial... or trying to claim it's some kind of trans or homo-phobic thing.

But this is a public health issue that seem to be getting ignored. I like the above comment because it fits in with another example of "forced acceptance". Obesity.

We know statistically that there's an epidemic of obesity. We also seem to disagree over the exact cause. And we also see an attempt at engineering people's perceptions with regards to obesity.

tptb would rather keep raking in the dough than pay the cost to do business the right way and clean up the environment, let alone face liability.

Crap food and ingredients that mess with your metabolism, or all kinds of added fats and sugars to make stuff taste better and get to you hooked and eat more of their product.

Same principle at work. Don't change or take responsibility because that fucks with your bottom line.

So they try and tell us that plus size is OK and men having tits is the new normal.

The Civil Rights movement in the 60s wasn't just to end segregation but it was also a working class movement and protest against the Vietnam Draft that targeted low income people while letting wealthy people avoid service. Add on higher unemployment and social problems due to segregation, the Civil Rights movement was about people having equal rights as individuals.

70s era feminism acted as a method to screw over poor people by making the issue about women but instead of representing low income women, it became a generalized ideology adopted by wealthier college women who treated themselves the same as the low income women they claimed to represent.

Gloria Steinham worked with the CIA. She said they were nice guys. She was a big influence in mainstream feminism.

It's about power, control, and money (what it's always about).

Step 1: Replace men with the state. Women don't need men anymore for any reason. Makes both sexes easier to control.

Step 2: Once men and women are the same, women will have to be in the workforce just as much as men. This means more corporate consumption and more corporate profits.

Step 3: Once you have a fully enslaved population, the children are no longer raised by families but they are raised by the state, through daycares and schools, and can be programmed as the state wishes. Full control is achieved.

Skinny jeans, waxing eyebrows, shaving legs, shaving often, are all ways to feminize men. I personally never fell into the whole manly man bullshit. I like to be clean. I fell into this and started doing my eyebrows 20 years ago and haven't stopped. Skinny jeans are too extreme for me. But yes, this is a thing.

Gaslighting is a form of manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or group, to make them question their own memory, perception, & sanity." (Flat earth & transgenderism are examples.) Satanic possession is about overruling nature & inverting truth.

The masculinized women are easy to handle.

I feel sorry for feminized men because propagandized "culture" has massaged them in that direction & they don't have many good role models.

I have to say that I prefer feminized men to the fake alpha doofii running around pretending to be solid male figures.

Children of Men. Leads to AI takeover. Then The Matrix.

So find a nice effeminate dude to give you wood

Look up the communist manifesto and you will see most of the items are already in place.

Obviously. Not one mention of what women should do to be less masculine.

Keep your hatred to your self-hatred, please.

Most don't, and superficiality has nothing to do with it. It has to do with primal man/woman dynamics.

You leave America for a while and you see how fucked up the interaction between the sexes are in America.

Fascinated by the rapid response team of Baphomet types jumping all over my comment! Men-haters all, it seems.

It is the same reason there is such a disdain for talent, victims are heroes, or we are told racism is absurd because “we’re all the same” (in reality we’re infinitely different from one another, that’s why collectivist supremacism is absurd).

Are you saying racism isn't absurd? The problem with your argument is that you seem to not only be claiming that these differences are a bad thing, rather than something that should be celebrated, but more importantly the fact that at a fundamental level we are all connected in that we are all sharing this experience as human beings...

you're wrong, are you a russian bot?

While it’s true that what you eat and drink is your own choice, that isn’t the only source of Xenoestrogens. I’ve always eaten pretty healthy, but still got sick. I’m not sure if you’re aware of how prevalent these chemicals are in our daily life. Xenoestrogens are in pesticides in our food, they’re in exhaust from cars, they’re in plastic water bottles, they’re in canned food, they’re in the plastic that grocery stores wrap meat in, they’re in a lot of carpets, they’re in building materials, they’re injected into livestock, they’re even in fumes from copiers and printers. I avoid all of those the best I can, and eat entirely organic now, filter my water, etc. but it’s pretty damn hard AND expensive. A Polish study cites that Xenoestrogens are in our water, soil, food, and air, as well as household cleaning supplies.

You say as long as nobody’s being forced to be a certain way, there’s no issue, but it’s practically impossible to fully escape Xenoestrogens. So yeah, it actually kind of does feel forced.

So just get rid of all of the modern trappings that make life easier. Get rid of plastics get rid of all of the things that you take for granted. Then you won’t be disrupted by the BPA plastics.

I don’t see what’s wrong with the world where people like themselves for who they are and don’t judge others. That actually seems like a good step. Of course that means I’m ignorant and supporting the government to wage war on everybodys sexuality.

They're solipsistic and egoistic, but not individualistic.

Actually sperm counts and male fertility is dropping rapidly. Are you a shill or just an idiot?

No, that's the agenda wanting you to think that's what's happening, but it's actually being set upon us. I think they are trying to depopulate us by doing this, making us either gay or making us not want to have sex or procreate. Look at Japan right now, no one cares about having sex or having kids. I think that could be happening here through many ways. I think our hormones are being interfered with which can feminize our boys and drop their testosterone levels, making them not want to have sex. I wonder how much sex or country is really having, being truthful, I bet it's much lower than previous generations. I'll be researching this more, it's something I see happening with my own eyes daily. Is that a guy or a girl? I ask myself that quite a lot these days and I just don't think it's about feeling secure with yourself enough to look more feminine or girls to be more masciline. Kids at schools are being asked what name they want to be called, some girls are asking to be called Harold or other manly names and identifying as the opposite sex. This just didn't happen 20-30 years ago, this is new and being pushed on our children as a choice they get to make. Our very genders are being destroyed and watered down.

What else to expect from reddit? Fucking bullshit is at the top.

Now let's dissect what you have said. You are only focusing on individual traits. Eating meat and drinking beer are not the issue. Actually that is what we ate in all history. Agriculture produce is a recent phenomenon. Mankind was mostly depended on eating meat/fish etc for long long time. So get out here with your vegan conspiracy.

The issue of feminisation is systemic. From the early childhood boys are not allowed to be 'boys'. All these schools are like jail-house with hundreds of rules and regulation. Primary teacher (mostly women) are hell-bound to cut down any boyish activity and try to make them docile. These are reflected in the persona of the males in later life.

I can go on on, but just get a reality check. In every sphere of life, men are at the receiving end of condemnation. Question is why?

Hilary is not a socialist

I live in Berkeley, the alleged epicenter of this "radical rewiring" of humans. Yet, I go to the gym, and its at capacity with large jacked tattoo'd guys getting their pump on. I go to the park, and notice there's a pickup softball or soccer game. On this early fine Saturday morning if I leave my house and turn left I will pass a yoga studio full of ambitious women maintaining their figure, then past that the smoothie cafe where the previous class goes after to gab and catch up. But I can keep walking past that and go to my breakfast diner and order my heart-clenching corn-beef-hash and eggs with nothing but a smile from the server. If I were so inclined, I could loiter until lunch time until they'd cook me an enormous double-half-lb bacon burger with all that fatty-goodness, and no hormones because we're fancy like that.

My point being, men generally naturally gravitate to doing masculine things, and women feminine things, and nobody is trying to stop that. The difference now is society is making a point to say "yeah, this works for most of us, but if your heart tells you to go another way thats totally cool too--don't be ashamed for you-doing-you". For some reason this pisses the fuck-all out of a lot of people in this country, but I don't get it.

You completely sidestepped their comments.

Where did I say anything about "muscles"? Your response just now showsbthat you're some kind of disinfo agent. This kind of no sense out of topic emotional response make it crystal clear.

Anyway, Corey Wayne is good sources why high levels of the opposite gender energy might and will cause harm effects.

It’s crazy isn’t it? Very hard to escape. Just to make it more of a headache, I’ve heard that a lot of BPA free plastics contain something called BSA, which is supposedly just as bad. I use a Reshape Water Pitcher, which is similar to the Brita filter. This one is BPA free, but because of the potential BSA I just have the water filter into a glass pitcher instead. As far as I know, reverse osmosis is the absolute best thing for getting flouride and other chemicals out of your water. The one I have says it’s supposed to get rid of some flouride, but I’m not sure how much. It’s a temporary solution until I can save up to get a reverse osmosis system!

They have infiltrated almost all media outlets, academic institutions, and politics. Their foundation is strong.

Blaming men? Sounds more like he’s telling you to take responsibility for your life and stop blaming some shadow government

Lol no I have no ties to any marketing or agenda for anything. I was talking about masculinity and all you said was mental disorder. It's funny how people instantly think that if someone thinks other than they do, that they are an agent. No need to be so hostile

And that is you. The thing is, your perception of attractive or arousing doesn't fit everyone else's perception. Different strokes for different folks.

Oh boy the victim complex is strong here

Who?

Are any of them as readily known, scientifically verified, and personally avoidable as the impact of obesity on sperm count, testosterone production, and estrogen conversion ?

Just a man being over 25 on the BMI scale lowers his sperm count by 24% . This is old facts, yet everytime it's brought up it's brushed aside in favor of blaming it on what's either unavoidable (shit in the tap water) or that the person in question probably doesn't even knowingly consume (soy, like them libruls love).

No offense meant here: You've just applied those stereotypes, yourself. Nobody is saying all men have to be "strong", and all women have to be "dainty". Instead, there is a biological basis to this discussion. Since the 1970s, data suggests that males are slowly being purged out of existence, medically and socially, despite what our inflammatory media leads us to believe.

Objectively speaking, based on the most current data, the average American male's testosterone has fallen significantly over the last ~30 years, and subsequently, so has sperm count and overall health. Males require more testosterone to be "healthy", with low testosterone even influencing things like heart disease risk and cognition.

For a female, this might not seem like an issue. For males, it's alarming. Why is this happening? Why is our collective health declining so rapidly?

Not only that, but socially : Why are males constantly accused of being a monolithic, privileged, racist, misogynistic, patriarchy? Not only is this an outdated concept ( based on the current course of our culture ) but it's a falacy. Men today have no advantages over women, aside from usually being physically larger/stronger.

-The myth of the income gap has been destroyed repeatedly, and in many cases, women are making more than men.

-Rates of suicide are highest amongst white males, with 7 out of 10 US suicides being carried out by this group.

-Women attend and graduate from universities at a significantly higher rate than men, and usually get better grades. And as of 3 months ago, women now outnumber men in US medical schools.

-About 94% of those incarcerated in US prisons are males, with the majority of those being white males.

-Women can beat on their man, but men can't even lay a finger on a woman.

-Men are still expected to pay for women on dates.

-Fat women are bold and beautiful, while fat men are viewed as pigs.

-A woman sharing her body on Facebook is liberating, but a guy sharing his hard-earned abs is shamed as a douche.

- "If you're under 6'1", swipe left" ; do you realize how devastating that is for some guys? The average male height is 5'9"; that eliminates ~86% of the male population. As if they can help how tall they are.

-Women feel pressure to be thin; that's easy, walk and eat right. Men feel a pressure to be thin and muscular; do you realize how difficult it is to maintain 150 lbs of LBM?

-Women can usually freely talk about their feelings with those around them, while men are expected to keep it to themselves. And if they don't, they're often viewed as weak.

Society is clinging to these outdated ideas about men, such as women are shamed by men for having a lot of sex. Let me inquire: When have you seen that happen with your own two eyes ? And if you have, I would bet my bottom dollar that it was a woman shaming another woman. Being "reckless" is in, and it has achieved popularity in MSM. All of these ideas are antiquated, and promoting them is allowing women not to achieve equality, but instead continue to paint us as monsters living in ivory towers.

And still, we're expected to approach you? And be chivalrous? And give in to these false ideals, while we're constantly being hyper-analyzed and bashed in some form or fashion? We're too feminine, or too masculine. We're too clingy, or too unavailable. We're unkempt, or metrosexual. We make too much, or don't earn enough. Our muscles are too defined or not big enough. His penis is too small, or too big. He's too short at 5'9", but too tall at 6'4".

TL;DR: Stop listening to Buzzfeed and open your eyes to what is actually happening. Men are being biologically and socially wiped from existence.

my government loves me for not caring if someone is masculine or feminine? What?

edit for clarification.

My fiance told me that twinks were called soyboys. Omg is that true?

victim of what exactly youngblood?

I hate to be that dick, but you have an autistic child and come from a family of intergeneration personality disorders. Just based on the kinds of things you say about it and the frequency with which you post about it, I'd be really surprised if you don't have mental health issues that you aren't treating.

Do you have a desire for a big, strong woman to take you from behind and protect you afterwards?

Not quite. They just do not communicate then get mad at each other. That was the problem with my upbringing. No communication.

Some of us see the Communism

When you say that "we are told racism is absurd" you are kind of implying that it isn't absurd.

The obliteration of the self, Neo Bolshevism and English Socialism are the future.

So what if women are more masculine and men are more feminine. What exactly is the problem?

You are a cancerous fucking subhuman.

Huh? I am unashamed. I am now in a committed relationship. I enjoy sex and have had it freely, I am also pretty fucking good at it, it makes me feel good and makes my partner feel good nothing wrong that. If anything in my early 20s I was helping men fight the feminizing of their kind one erection at a time 😊

He's the textbook definition of a soyboy.

You are right. No one is forcing anyone. They're doing it by indoctrination and propaganda through Hollywood and humanities studies in Universities.

May want to look into endrocrine disruption via common chemical exposure, not easily avoided.

We can allow personal sexual freedom while still having concern for the chemical contamination affecting our sexuality. Those affected shouldn't have to feel like second hand citizens unless we're let religious fear come into this. Let them be. Let us investigate and remedy the contamination though. God how I hate false dichotomies, they are a tool of evil.

Ok, neat

People tend to be quite a bit more sedentary then before. It's pretty simple.

But nope. To these clowns it's reeeeeeee male genocide experiments!!

I do hold things sacred. Like time with my family. Being masculine isn't something that I feel the need to desperately cling on to. I have more going for me in other areas of life.

Chemicals aren't being forced into your food or water?

The feminists are warring against (the definition of) femininity...

They appear more to be warring against masculinity to the point where any existence of it is considered "toxic". Misandry is not a component of individualistic philosophy, but rather a learned behavior like misogyny. An Androgynistic society is forced. It is far from an organic and natural...and is doomed. The natural roles of men and women working together in a synergistic relationship is far stronger and able for survival and fighting off threats than the confused and paralyzing effect of androgyny.

Marriages have never been more unhappier. As the roles of men and women become more confused, couples become more and more frustrated at the complete lack of definition created by the Marxist philosophy. It will, as predicted, purposefully destroy the American family and society. Men and women have evolved to play specific roles to create a strong civilization...feminized men are weak and cannot perform the harder physical tasks or think in a linear fashion as do men...a mindset and mental frame that is critically needed to survive a hostile environment.

It's funny then how our sports records are higher than anytime in recorded history. People are lifting more and running faster.

Communists don’t ACTAULLAY want equality.

Read Animal Farm.

They want North Korea.

Why do you think Hollywood millionaires want it? They want slave labor.