If Seth Rich was the DNC leak, then is it possible that Russian influence convinced him to do it?
0 2018-03-03 by afooltobesure
Seth Rich was a DNC staffer. If he was the source of the leak, then something must have convinced him to leak the data. Is it possible he would have decided to do this due in part to talking points pushed by Russian trolls?
I don’t personally think Seth Rich was the source of the leaks, as the available information seems to indicate otherwise. It’s possible though, and maybe one day we will know for sure.
But if it was him, then why? He could have had his own reasons already, but he definitely could have been influenced as well, in my opinion.
109 comments
1 fishdancing 2018-03-03
There are no fucking Russians
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Idk they seem pretty real to me. Do you happen to have information alluding to them being fake?
1 fishdancing 2018-03-03
There is no proof to them to begin with. Not a thing
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
There does seem to be quite a bit of proof though.
1 fishdancing 2018-03-03
Where? They haven’t shared anything!
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
You can download a sample of the data from here: http://www.wired.co.uk/article/brexit-russia-influence-twitter-bots-internet-research-agency
1 fishdancing 2018-03-03
You mean numbers and things the government they put together. No proof it’s real.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Government didn’t put it together
1 fishdancing 2018-03-03
Yeah that’s what they Tell you...
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
If there’s any evidence that it was put together by the government, then share that. I’m sure it would be a big hit around here!
1 fishdancing 2018-03-03
They make the claim so have the burden of proof.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Exactly
1 fishdancing 2018-03-03
How do you know
1 fishdancing 2018-03-03
Madeup data
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
How do you figure?
1 fishdancing 2018-03-03
How do you figure it’s legit?
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
You can see the data yourself. On the article I linked there’s another link to download the data. Check it out
1 spenbass 2018-03-03
Do you honestly believe 13 Russians on twitter were able to interfere on a mass scale in our election? 13 fucking people on twitter. How many other millions of foreigners were on twitter talking about trump or Clinton? And they have the audacity to tell us 13 fucking Russians on twitter is the reason Hillary lost?
Weapons of mass destruction and 13 fucking Russians on twitter.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Heard these exact talking points many times before
1 spenbass 2018-03-03
Talking points?? Hey man if you want to believe that 13 Russian on twitter were able to rig the election go ahead. I’m just pointing out how fucking stupid that sounds.
If all it took was a dozen people on twitter to change peoples minds and sway and election I’m sure Putin would be king of the world by now.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
“13 Russians on twitter” is practically a battle cry at this point lol. And it’s a blatant misrepresentation of the facts.
1 spenbass 2018-03-03
How am I misstating the facts? My bad. 13 Russians on Facebook and twitter.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/finance/news/mueller-indicts-13-russians-linked-195407669.html
Check out what the VP of Facebook ads had to say about the 13 fucking Russian that the media tells you we’re able to sway the election.”the majority of Russian ads happened after the election. We shared that fact but very few outlets have covered it because it doesn’t align with the main narrative of Trump and the election”
https://twitter.com/robjective/status/964680122006581248
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
No one has ever claimed that “13 Russians got Trump elected”. This was one story about one small part of their operation. It’s literally a strawman
1 spenbass 2018-03-03
Okay so now you understand that the majority of the Russian ads were bought after the election and they’re main goal was not to affect the outcome. Do you acknowledge this?
No it’s not strawman. the whole premise that the media is running with is that Russian bots were able to influence enough voters to vote for trump instead of Hillary. CNN MSNBC and even Fox have posed this question many times.
You based this post off that same premise, that these 13 Russian were able to influence a DNC worker to leak the DNC files and podesta’s emails. Do you seriously believe that Seth rich was somehow exposed to the tweets and ads of 13 people out of 50 million and decided to leave based on that? Or could it maybe be the fact that he was a Bernie bro and watched as Hillary and the DNC rugged their election against Bernie?
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
It’s a strawman, you keep saying 13 Russians but it wasn’t 13 Russians.
I’m glad we can agree they bought ads though, among other things.
1 spenbass 2018-03-03
Then what was it please explain
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Explain what, the entirety of the Trump Russia conspiracy? Google (or ideally DuckDuckGo) is your friend.
1 fishdancing 2018-03-03
No proof that data is real
1 therealsquirrel95 2018-03-03
fucking twitter bots did not swing the fucking election! what the fuck is wrong with you people? how can anybody buy this shit?
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Idk about swing the election, but Russia was active on Twitter and you can see the kind of issues they’ve been pushing in the linked data
1 therealsquirrel95 2018-03-03
yeah but who fucking cares? seriously, so what?
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Some of us just want to know the truth, I guess
1 therealsquirrel95 2018-03-03
fair enough. ok, heres the truth: Its nonsense. Literally fabricated by HRC and her people to blame for losing to a walking cheeto. and then it grew into this changing narrative that went through several phases, shifting talking points as each new angle unraveled one after the other. it started out that russia hacked the emails and leaked them to wikileaks, now its devolved into this weak ass troll farm story that is totally meaningless with regard to the election. but still, people are yelling Hurdur Russia at the top of their lungs with nothing substantial to say on the topic. so again, who fucking cares?
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Yes I think we’ve all heard that theory. Unfortunately the evidence says otherwise. What you’re talking about is spin, propaganda.
It’s a cool story though, and I can see why it’s so appealing to some people who were looking for some explanation that allowed them to tell themselves they didn’t have the wool pulled over their eyes.
Out of curiosity though, shoot me your strongest evidence of this narrative you’ve just relayed being true. I’m sure you must have something much better than an archive of tweets.
1 therealsquirrel95 2018-03-03
sorry dude, im not going to do your homework for you. just open your eyes and do some research. i have, on both sides of this issue and the more you look the more clear it will become. unless of course you dont really want to know the truth...
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
My homework is done and was posted here. You don’t have to provide any sources or evidence or information, it just makes your argument seem weak, which is fine with me.
1 therealsquirrel95 2018-03-03
lol thats your homework? keep trying bud
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Nah I think that did the trick, didn’t it? The data really is solid if you take a look at it, although I suppose it might require a certain aptitude to understand.
1 therealsquirrel95 2018-03-03
the fuck are you on? you offer ZERO data, sources or evidence. you are literally suggesting that seth rich was influenced by the russians to leak the emails. that is just plain stupid dude.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
It’s just a theory.
1 Odor_punchout_16 2018-03-03
The fact there is no proof is proof of faker y
1 coolshifts 2018-03-03
I heard that he was aware of voting irregularities and they had to get rid of him nothing to do with Russia.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Where did you hear this?
1 fishdancing 2018-03-03
WikiLeaks
1 MJshoe 2018-03-03
The same shills who worked for the trump campaign?
1 fishdancing 2018-03-03
They didn’t. They consistently provide truth.
1 th3yc3b 2018-03-03
Wikileaks is Russian.
1 pby1000 2018-03-03
Has Wikileaks said anything that proved to be untrue?
1 MJshoe 2018-03-03
Has the Trump dossier said anything proven to be untrue?
1 pby1000 2018-03-03
Like pissing prostitutes?
1 MJshoe 2018-03-03
Has that been proven to be untrue?
1 th3yc3b 2018-03-03
Reading comprehension please.
I never said what WikiLeaks has released was false.
I stated that WikiLeaks is Russian. Or more precisely Russian Subversion.
This is you guys projecting your thoughts on to my words.
1 MJshoe 2018-03-03
Did you forget to switch accounts comrade? I wasn't replying to you.
1 MJshoe 2018-03-03
Did you forget to switch accounts comrade? I wasn't replying to you.
1 th3yc3b 2018-03-03
Can't help the ones that are so filled with hate.
1 pby1000 2018-03-03
You have it backwards. The burden of proof is on those making the accusations. Everything Wikileaks has released has been truthful. They are very careful about that.
1 Errol_Gibbings_III 2018-03-03
This tweet was a lie
https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/status/843938212456423425
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/roger-stones-secret-messages-with-wikileaks/554432/?utm_source=feed
1 fishdancing 2018-03-03
No
1 3asybeat 2018-03-03
Funny how they were the darlings of the left only a few years ago, yet when they leak stuff that doesn't fit a certain viewpoint they are 'shills'.
1 pby1000 2018-03-03
Do you know why Putin banned adoptions of Russian children by Americans?
1 coolshifts 2018-03-03
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2017/07/14/537304186/episode-784-meeting-the-russians
1 pby1000 2018-03-03
Haha! They banned Americans from adopting kids because of that? I really hope you do not believe that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2012/12/28/the-real-reason-russia-wants-to-ban-adoptions-by-dangerous-american-families/?utm_term=.628433be0ded
1 coolshifts 2018-03-03
Your story is in agreement with the one I posted. Different perspective, but not contradictory.
1 pby1000 2018-03-03
I do not see in your story where they talk about the Russian children being abused and their organs being harvested. Maybe I missed it. I was on mobile at the time.
Do you agree that it is reasonable for Putin to ban adoptions of Russian children into American families if these Russian children are being harvested for their organs?
1 coolshifts 2018-03-03
Like I said. Different perspective. The npr story didn't cover things that the wapo did. Listen to the podcast. It's really interesting. I'm not saying wapo is wrong. It just adds to the story.
1 pby1000 2018-03-03
OK! I will check it out.
1 DawnPendraig 2018-03-03
Or he realized they were rigging the primary and was disgusted so leaked it. Also laundering money for Clinton anx other crimes.
Now we see someone pushed through false back ground checks for the Awan Brothers who worked for DWSholtz.
1 pby1000 2018-03-03
Not to mention the pedophilia thing. And the ritual human sacrifice. And the cannibalism. But, beware of the evil Russians!
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Could be
1 pby1000 2018-03-03
Sure! Just like the Russians tricked Hillary and Obama into selling 20% of our Uranium for $140M.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
I’d say that was probably greed
1 pby1000 2018-03-03
We are very, very lucky Hillary lost. Putin would have owned her ass.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
I don’t know about that. Trump seems to have been pretty well owned.
1 pby1000 2018-03-03
By whom exactly? Trump does not seem to be a NWO globalist, like the others.
The NWO globalists are into pedophilia, ritual human sacrifice, and cannibalism. Is Trump?
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Putin. And how many times has Trump been to Epstein island? How long was he in charge of miss teen universe or whatever? How many countries does he hold property in? What’s his net worth? Trump is a globalist deep state billionaire, make no mistake about it.
1 pby1000 2018-03-03
We researched trump and Epstein island a year ago. If Trump was there, then it appears they did not get him on video doing anything. If he was on video because of Epstein, then the CIA and Mossad would have it, not Putin.
Are you saying that Trump is a globalist or a NWO globalist? The NWO globalists want a one world government. Are youmsaying that Trump wants a one world government?
The people who rule the world are trillionaires, not billionaires.
1 RecoveringGrace 2018-03-03
There is zero evidence that Trump has been to Epsteins island. There is testimony from Epsteins brother that Trump was on the Lolita with Jeffrey, Mark and the pilot, but he didn't disembark at the island, instead went on to NY.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Plenty of evidence that Trump was on Epstein’s island.
1 RecoveringGrace 2018-03-03
Do you care to share that evidence?
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Do your own research
1 RecoveringGrace 2018-03-03
I have, extensively, and every time someone has made the assertion you have, I've asked for evidence and they never have come through.
I would love it if you would share the evidence you have.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Seth_Rich?wprov=sfti1
Quotes from Seth Rich’s parents are sourced in the above link.
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1 RecoveringGrace 2018-03-03
What does this have to do with Trump going to Epsteins island?
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Whoops wrong comment.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/5556/7-things-you-need-know-about-trump-and-sex-slave-amanda-prestigiacomo
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/04/jeffrey-epstein-trump-lawsuit-sex-trafficking-237983
http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/national-govt--politics/will-president-trump-used-witness-sex-offender-epstein-case/YijRjaz87dDMiV18TGeDAN/
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/10/glenn-simpsons-fusion-gps-ran-donald-trump-smear-c/
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-jeffrey-epstien-alexander-acosta-sex-abuse-case-20170321-story.html
https://nypost.com/2016/10/09/the-sex-slave-scandal-that-exposed-pedophile-billionaire-jeffrey-epstein/
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime--law/trial-date-set-for-lawsuit-against-billionaire-sex-offender-epstein/VJbBnxT9PK4AXk0mbLchBK/
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/03/jeffrey-epstein-200303
https://lawandcrime.com/uncategorized/president-trump-on-witness-list-in-case-involving-pedophile-billionaire-jeffrey-epstein/
1 RecoveringGrace 2018-03-03
Not one of those says anything about Trump being on Epsteins island.
I thought you said you have evidence.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
https://www.dailywire.com/news/5749/both-trump-and-clinton-went-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-amanda-prestigiacomo
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1507315-epstein-flight-manifests.html
1 RecoveringGrace 2018-03-03
Still not evidence that Trump went to the island.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Did you read either of those links?
1 RecoveringGrace 2018-03-03
What truth hurts? That is a daily mail opinion piece about an allegation that was withdrawn and a piece of evidence showing Trump was on the plane. That trip was testified to in court, with the eyewitness saying Trump didn't disembark at the island.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Did you look at the flight logs? You can see when someone disembarks... I mean maybe he only did so momentarily, but...
1 rodental 2018-03-03
For fuck's sake.
1 Odor_punchout_16 2018-03-03
Short anwser, no. Long anwser, hell no
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
I don’t know it seems possible to me.
1 Johnny_Oldschool 2018-03-03
Makes a lot more sense that he was a die hard Bernie supporter and saw how Bernie was getting screwed.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
How do we know that was him?
1 Johnny_Oldschool 2018-03-03
Critical thinking.
1 therealsquirrel95 2018-03-03
holy shit, now heres a new one. you guys with the russia shit, i cant even anymore. he leaked the emails because he was disgusted with the DNC. he saw how they were blackballing bernie and wanted to shed light on the corruption.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
That makes sense. Could be either one I guess. What lead you to this conclusion?
1 KrazyKiwiKid 2018-03-03
no
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
But maybe though
1 orrery 2018-03-03
He did it because he supported Bernie and felt that Bernie was wronged. End of discussion.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
That’s one theory. What evidence is there to support it though? As far as I can see, just as much as there is to support my theory, which is to say none.
1 orrery 2018-03-03
Seth Rich's anti-Hillary / pro-Bernie Facebook / Twitter posts and text messages make it pretty obvious.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Exactly, and as I’m sure you know the Russians were also spreading pro-Bernie propaganda.
1 orrery 2018-03-03
Good for them, but I ask you this, who cares? Russians have free speech rights same as anyone else, we are not at war with Russia, Russia is not our enemy. Seth Rich is responsible for Seth Rich's actions.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
I don’t know about you, but most Americans I know care about other countries pushing propaganda at them, especially when that propaganda influences elections and lawmaking. Hypocritical, I know, but I assume any real American patriot would feel the same way.
1 orrery 2018-03-03
Bullshit man, this isn't fucking China. America doesn't have a "Great Firewall" separating our internet from the rest of the world. We have the World Wide Web here. Your Russian boogie man bullshit exists for the sole purpose of regionalizing the web. Take that bullshit and shove it up your ass.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Insults always do seem to follow deflection, don’t they?
1 orrery 2018-03-03
This entire discussion is one big fat sorry insult to anyone who read it
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
How do you figure?
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Government didn’t put it together
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
I don’t know it seems possible to me.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
No one has ever claimed that “13 Russians got Trump elected”. This was one story about one small part of their operation. It’s literally a strawman
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Putin. And how many times has Trump been to Epstein island? How long was he in charge of miss teen universe or whatever? How many countries does he hold property in? What’s his net worth? Trump is a globalist deep state billionaire, make no mistake about it.
1 pby1000 2018-03-03
We researched trump and Epstein island a year ago. If Trump was there, then it appears they did not get him on video doing anything. If he was on video because of Epstein, then the CIA and Mossad would have it, not Putin.
Are you saying that Trump is a globalist or a NWO globalist? The NWO globalists want a one world government. Are youmsaying that Trump wants a one world government?
The people who rule the world are trillionaires, not billionaires.
1 RecoveringGrace 2018-03-03
There is zero evidence that Trump has been to Epsteins island. There is testimony from Epsteins brother that Trump was on the Lolita with Jeffrey, Mark and the pilot, but he didn't disembark at the island, instead went on to NY.
1 RecoveringGrace 2018-03-03
Do you care to share that evidence?
1 RecoveringGrace 2018-03-03
What truth hurts? That is a daily mail opinion piece about an allegation that was withdrawn and a piece of evidence showing Trump was on the plane. That trip was testified to in court, with the eyewitness saying Trump didn't disembark at the island.
1 afooltobesure 2018-03-03
Did you look at the flight logs? You can see when someone disembarks... I mean maybe he only did so momentarily, but...