I remember a story about contaminated baby milk produced in China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal

It says only 6 babies died but it has to be higher.

A number of criminal prosecutions were conducted by the Chinese government. Two people were executed, one given a suspended death penalty, three people receiving life imprisonment

Seems like a suitable punishment for ruining the health of 300,000 people.

Not worried

If you're worried about this, I want to switch lives with you immediately, cause you clearly don't have a lot on your plate

Yes but this is more of a sad commentary on the state of my own life I suppose. Fair enough.

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Note that in the first paragraph it states that some of this stuff is harvested from sewers...

Rice, salt, peas, wine, beef, walnuts, eggs, and the biggest thing they fake is honey.

They sell fake honey in America too. And people pay extra here for fake rice (cauliflower rice), fake beef, and fake eggs. What a country!

Oh I know. But the honey from there was altered in a way so it could be cheaper and flooded the U.S. markets and destroyed the local honey business here.

I doubt that. I'd see some links to back up your claims. Large American fast food chains have been passing off HFC as honey for years.

Check out Rotten episode 1 on Netflix. Your not wrong with what you said. But that episode can explain more than I.

I knew you were talking about rotten as I read your first comment. Great show, really eye opening.

If you’ve seen the Carlos episode, I’ve just now for the first time noticed Christopher ranch products in my market. Steered way clear of those b

No havent seen that one yet. I'll be sure to watch it. Everything's been a huge eye opener hasn't.

Yeah, for sure. I wish it was more than 6 episodes, but each one talks about a pretty good topic. But the Honey one, for me, was the most eye opening. Crazy stuff

This is why my cousin and brother and I are trying to film a cooking show for YouTube of how to eat and cook healthy with vegan, keto, and paleo diets. And of course dropping tiny little redpills of what to stay away from.

Just curious what it is you doubt here, that the imported honey isn't pure?

Quick google search, here's a Forbes article https://www.forbes.com/sites/larryolmsted/2016/07/15/exclusive-book-excerpt-honey-is-worlds-third-most-faked-food/

But regarding fake chinese honey: what they do is cut pure honey with sugary additives. I believe it is all honey has to be tested for purity, country of origin, etc. what the chinese were doing was cutting their stuff, then shipping it to other countries to then import to the US to circumvent the restrictions of Chinese imports.

Overall, I don't know why you'd doubt they'd fake honey. People will do whatever they can to make money, and honey is one of the biggest food commodities all over the world.

I don't doubt they'd fake honey, I just meant we fake honey here in America too.

In America, those fake items are sold as fakes, though. There is a market for people who want non-meat or animal product items or carbs made from veggies. That's a far cry from actual fakes that are sold as though they're the real thing.

https://www.mybeeline.co/en/p/us-76-percent-is-fake-honey

My hubby once brought home fake bacon bits. The label read Real imitation bacon bits.

Those things are vegan. LOL

Honey is faked everywhere.

Thank you for the honey comment, very interesting. Did some research and now I know how to check my honey to see if it is real!

Raw honey is not only healthier for you, but more satisfying. I can eat half a teaspoon and have my sweet tooth satiated. When I used to buy that cheap shit, I would get cravings.

My local farmers sell raw honey, bee pollen, goat's milk soap and beeswax candles. They're kinda my idols!

How can you tell? I buy "raw local" honey from the farmer's market and Costco (I know I know we're trying to quit)

Lol. Try to find a local bee keeper of you can. My neighbor does it and I use it because it helps with my allergies.

Ha didn't know that.

Blah. My wife has shown me these same vids man. Its pretty fucking gross. I'll tell ya this. I'm from Missouri and we have a lot of Amish out here. Me and the wife will straight up buy a lot of our produce and flour from them. Changed both of our lives simply because it makes us feel better physically. Both if us are in the medical field also and a lot of the physician's we work with have changed their diets and even see holistic doctors now.

Glad to hear man. I do wish there were more posts like this. Totally agree, feed the body and it will take care of you in the long run. You also have to treat that guy bacteria right.

By the way, if a label says "Distributed by" an American company, it's made outside of the US and they don't always to reveal what country of origin.

China is known for using raw human or poultry waste as fertilizer. Uncured.

using raw human or poultry waste as fertilizer

I have seen this firsthand in Xian. Dude was growing strawberries - strawberries! - in uncomposted humanure. It was a small, family plot and not a commercial operation. We were warned heavily against consuming any raw fruits or leafy greens because it is apparently common practice.

Also, for anyone with pets, read labels. I accidentally bought my dog irradiated treats, because I recognized the shape of the treat, not realizing ir was a different manufacturer.

Best to avoid any treats not made in the US imo.

Definitely. And this should apply to rawhide and bully sticks as well, not just individual tiny treats you give to your dog while training. I try to stay away from anything (including toys) that's not made in the US for my dog, just to be safe.

Do you like the bully sticks? I worry about bowel obstruction.

I give them very sparingly to my dogs for that reason. They each got one for Christmas this year, but that's the first they've had in a long time. I'm really conservative with all these things though - my dogs tend to live only on expensive dog food and the occasional expensive-but-boring treat by the same brand.

We definitely use training treats. And my dude loves bananas and baby carrots. Apples, cheese, peanut butter. I made beef bone broth in the crockpot, soaked his food in it, then blend it and pour into ice cube trays. He gets it like a teething treat or when I crate him to leave the house. He goes apeshit for his "PUP POPS"

I make them their own treats too! Your way sounds great, I might have to try that. I tend to make peanut butter-honey-yogurt frozen treats for them when its really hot out.

I always think its great when you can give dogs actual food for treats. Mine also love carrots and frozen watermelon, especially.

Awesome, I should try that. We're sharing popcorn atm. I always wonder if he gets hulls stuck in his gums, like I do.

Slight non-sequitur, but man. Dogs are the best.

Irradiated food is perfectly safe. Much more so than chemical preservatives. Decay emissions don't decide to stop moving at 5% of light speed to take up residence in your dog treats.

Naww.....

yes, I was told to peel tomatoes before consuming them there by the locals!

This is common in the US too.

Source?

I've heard of e.coli from cow shit pools contaminating crops?

Biosolids are a thing in the US too.

Those are filtered and treated. I'm talking about raw shit.

I read recently China is counterfeiting Reggiano Parmigiano cheese. Check your labels.

Informal poll - do people read food labels for ingredients and/or country of origin? I'm curious.

I do, compulsively so, but I think I might be in the minority.

Also, didn't Obama repeal the country of origin labeling mandate in 2015?

I do, but also, I've come to just accept that probably all food is somehow a carcinogenic poisonous death trap but, honestly, life is too short to flip out trying to pursue some sort of mythical "pure" foods that are probably an expensive scam anyway. I just give a big ol' cynical shrug and enjoy my pink slime chemical-laced mystery torturemeat hot dogs anyways. Fuck it.

I did flip out for awhile shooting for food purity, but veganism did not suit me. I've come down from fanatical to conscious over the years. I was probably healthier with all the food restrictions, but I'm happier without them.

You're right, my problem was with sourcing. I didn't want to support the CAFOs. I didn't have a decent source of meat and dairy. But I found a farmer, encouraged my husband to take up hunting for venison, and got a flock of chickens.

Having been there done that, I look at veganism as a form of fasting rather than a long-term, sustainable choice of diets.

Dude, I guarantee somewhere in your region, someone is making all-beef dogs you can afford.

I do. I was trained while living in Europe and being really active at BDS for Israel - there, all sorts of veggies and things you might not expect come from Israel. Now it's just habit. I don't think its common practice, however - certainly people think I'm weird when they notice I'm doing it.

Yes I check out labels 95% of the time, if I see a number (generally more than one, e.g. PEG124 etc) it’s usually a pass. I also look for the length of the ingredient list. If I’m buying a damn can of beans it shouldn’t have a ingredient list that takes up half the damn can.

I do!

Yes!

You COULD post links but chose not to? You leave it up to your readers to cite what they're reading? Take this post and shove it up your ass. If there are SO MANY sources, why couldn't you link even ONE? This is a shitpost. And I'm not saying i dont believe there's a fake food industry in China because ive seen some shit about styrofoam rice. But i didn't post to r/conspiracy and tell everyone to look it up themselves.

Stop buying processed foods.

Then why are you buying Chinese eggs? Are fresh chicken eggs really that hard to get? I live near the city and know of dozens of places, including friends backyards in suburbs.

The food industry is only fucked up because people buy it.

Cheap prices is one issue, but the biggest issue is people's eating habits. We can live on so little, and can get a lot of fresh produce and real unprocessed food for cheap. But we as humans wan't that good stuff, i'm guilty of it, but I'm not going to blame the food we have because I don't have money, it's cause I want it.

Duh.

Tbh the US is just as bad and anyone that doesn't live in the EU is probably fucked.

Anyone know of any foods that tend to be not necessarily fake but tainted? I've heard that tumeric can have lead in it and olive oil is sometimes full of a filler oil and rancid.

This is why my cousin and brother and I are trying to film a cooking show for YouTube of how to eat and cook healthy with vegan, keto, and paleo diets. And of course dropping tiny little redpills of what to stay away from.

Then why are you buying Chinese eggs? Are fresh chicken eggs really that hard to get? I live near the city and know of dozens of places, including friends backyards in suburbs.

The food industry is only fucked up because people buy it.