Amazon Echo in White House official's home. How can people be this stupid?

178 2018-01-15 by Amazonistrash

Ok so apparently Sarah Sanders' 2 year old kid ordered some shit off Amazon by yelling about Batman.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/01/15/sarah-sanders-calls-out-amazon-alexa-after-2-year-olds-toy-order

How is it possible that a person who works in the White House has such poor opsec that they would even have a spying device like that in their home and then advertise that fact to the world?

Is this a conspiracy to leak sensitive info through sheer stupidity or what?

How long before Bezos is using shit said by ignorant govt officials for nefarious purposes? Or even "better", how long before Chinese or Russian hackers have an open mic in her house 😂

Isn't the deep state supposedly after Trump? Why would anyone working that high up in his WH be allowed such a device, even at home? People who work with classified or sensitive info are taught better opsec arent they? For some clearances i know they have to take polygraphs and be evaluated regularly. Wouldnt "hey do you have IoT spying devices bugging your place of residence" be a good question?

Edit: why isnt everyone who works in the Whitehouse using Boeing Blacks? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Black

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Also, great job on the parental controls!

Especially when Trump has been essentially attacking Bezos and Amazon: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/trump-attacks-amazon-for-making-usps-dumber-and-poorer.html

Why shouldnt she have it?

  1. If the cia is going to spy on her its going to spy on her

Anyone high up enough for top ppl to spy on them isnt safe anyway. She has a cell phone. Thats even worse. Shes also followed by reporters and camera crews

  1. Yes its stupid. Amazon echo is a waste of money even if it was safe. Are you really so lazy you can't type amazon.com into the search bar? You can't pull your phone out of your pocket check whatever you need to check?

Sounds like you should subscribe to r/hacking and r/privacy. There are ways to force mic and camera communications off when needed. Back doors are constantly updated as well. You can force a high frequency next to mic as well if that paranoid and barely puts a toll on battery life. There are ways.

Because we are more worried about foreign government spying on her. You know, the whole national security thing.

Jeff Bezos is the enemy of every American and every human being. Why would you want a shitbag like him to be able to spy on her?

Pretty sure I'm doing well for myself, thanks.

What did Jeff do to you man?

Bought whole foods and made shopping harder for someone like me who avoids buying Chinese slave made junk.

Ahh, the good ole' "all people more successful than me are pieces of shit" meme.

Wrong. I have no problem with people richer or more successful. I have a problem with evil scum like Bezos and Zuckerberg though. Not because they are rich: because they are unethical.

I'm assuming that it has voice recognition capabilities just like Google Home and can be set up so that only certain people control it regardless of age. Guess she's not too tech savvy.

It’s teh future why scary

Lol. Calm down OP

I doubt the press secretary does much classified homework. But you’re probably right, nobody that works in the White House should be allowed to own a Amazon Exho or anything that might be hacked// s

Doesnt even have to be classified to be damaging though. With all the leaks theyve already had, youd think they would try to get their shit together.

Just need enough personal info for blackmail.

I bet she's never taken a phone call close to it right

sounds like a way to advertise for Amazon, and Batman for that matter. (clarification, Clever way for the Amazon to advertise through Fox and WH)

By saying that the spying piece of garbage orders stuff when a two year old yells at it? Not exactly a shining endorsement.

Plus doesnt Bezos hate President Trump and vice versa? Its too bad he wont pass an EO banning Amazon and Facebook from the US 😂

I am sure the government has special secured networks for their officials to use when off duty. Why not? Anything connected to the internet and turned on, is a security risk for these elected officials, even in the privacy of their own home. So even if she does have the echo, the technology is probably secured by some type of U.S. military security program.

special secured networks

things like that does not exist in real life. They are called "secure" until they aren't.

Even if that's the case, you can secure the network as much as you want. The device's sole purpose is still to send snippets of audio to Amazon, which could inadvertently include sensitive information.

Lol no.

The secure network is called the sipr. It requires certain security measures.

The have an encrypted phone and that's about it. They probably can VPN in but that's probably only through a specific laptop as different classification levels have different storage requirements for the actual storage device

The encrypted phone is really all they have. This isn't the movies

Obviously, the idea of "secured" networks is pretty far-fetched in this day and age, but is it not reasonable to assume that governments CAN protect their own officials? I'm no computer geek, but it would seem a little obvious that certain workers are required to follow security protocol when accessing the internet, from anywhere. Example: Hillary Clinton used a private email server, breaking the rules.

This may not be the movies but there are secure facilities around the world like Pine Gap, Menwith Hill, Area 51, and all those sorts of places that are basically giant SCIFs. Boeing Black is a thing. There is shit out there with regards to computer security that makes the movies seem tame.

Even civilian security can be relatively high tech. Look at Skyport servers.

The Shape of Water and The Green Blob

Libtard: someone just smart enough to be dangerous.

Contard: someone just stupid enough to be dangerous.

https://lokisrevengeblog.wordpress.com/2018/01/15/the-shape-of-water-and-the-big-green-blob/

Does the white house press secretary have access to classified info? After all, they speak to the press... so why would they need to know anything classified?

Either way, it seems like a stupid thing to have in your home for a person like that.

Maybe not classified, but discussions of how to present matters to the press likely include information not intended for the public. It's probably a minor thing TBH, but doesn't seem great for someone in that position.

I think the west wing does a good job at showing this. Sometimes they're flat out lied to. Sometimes they're told the truth so they can spin better

They do have a security clearance but they're not national security so there isn't always a need to know which is generally supposed to be a requirement and has been more heavily enforced since Manning and Snowden just trolled through entire areas they had no legitimate need to know and thus shouldn't have even had access.

Plus there's tons of people with security clearance in the military that never actually access classified information. Those things are handed out like candy to any 18 year old high school graduate. You could go an entire 6 year enlistment and never have a need to know something so never access a classified document

Security clearances are really just indicative of the depth of the background check

For my secret they didn't even go talk to my references in person. For my ts people were interviewed multiple times. They don't even polygraph you unless you're in intelligence I didnt get one until a specific assignment

The only way to get denied is admitting to drug use or bad credit.

drug use or bad credit.

Two of the great evils in our world

Nope just blackmail material

These things exist first to sell you shit, and second to create a profile on you. For the average person this is probably harmless (at this moment, anyway), but for anyone high profile to have this in their home is monumentally stupid.

I honestly cant imagine anyone being stupid enough to own such a device. Ik the NSA can bootkit my phone blah blah but at least a phone is useful.

You're not worth spying on. You're boring. WH aides are interesting.

Also possible this didn't happen. Could be a made up story to criticize amazon.

If thats the case why not talk about the working conditions or how Bezos is CIA?

CIA lol

I think you're over-reacting. Plenty of higher-ups own smartphones, which are equally capable of being listening devices. You just don't bring those things with you on the job.

I doubt she discusses classified information at home with her 2-year old son.

Any information that a person wants to keep private can be used as blackmail. For example: A person takes anti-depressants, having marital issues, or health problems. These are problems that many people openly talk about in their home, but are fiercely protective of this information outside of it.

Yea I just 100% get that.

I'm saying that since these bastards are actively supporting the expansion of the surveillance state, then the whole issue of personal privacy must not be on the forefront of their small minds.

I think a lot of these old coots in govt are useful idiots who think, “nothing to fear, nothing to hide.” They don’t even have the basic understanding of modern technology to even begin to imagine the power and possible abuse these programs can create.

No doubt. There's always a mix of the cynically ambitious who support it for political gain, useful idiots, and true zealots who would give up all liberty to finally defeat the boogeyman.

And the potential for the total destruction of democracy is never brought up once.

Definitely do. Even BHO talks about his beloved blackberry and he still gets briefs if he wants.

If it's serious info, you don't get to bring your personal devices. You either carry a govt approved device or nothing at all. Look up SCIFs.

I think you're over-reacting. Plenty of higher-ups own smartphones, which are equally capable of being listening devices. You just don't bring those things with you on the job.

I doubt she discusses classified information at home with her 2-year old son.

She also works for the Executive branch of the Federal government. These people seem to have zero qualms about warrantless mass surveillance, so it only makes sense that they wouldn't be bothered with a listening device in their private life.

how long before Chinese or Russian hackers have an open mic in her house 😂

I think we (as a nation) would be really negligent not to assume this possibility.

If u have a cellphone its already a possibility

OP, do you have an Android or Apple smartphone?

At my friends yesterday listening to music on his echo. He talked about a song and thats what played next. He was like "whoa, thats cool" i was like "whoa, you must be a fucking idiot".

https://youtu.be/YWGqc0ufBAA show them that 😂

What if...they’re trying to make you think they’re dumb by saying “well if they have one, they can’t possibly be be spying” and make everyone get one so they can spy on us. Not that they don’t already but still

Sometimes on /r/conspiracy we forget that not everything is part of a larger plan. Sometimes people are just fucking idiots. In fact, it would be much harder for the real conspiracies to work if the right people weren’t.

To normalize it for sure. Their mouth piece is sanders and Trump, so who else to use these things

It's almost like Trump & his gang of cronies are badly unqualified for government office

At least it isn't a furby!

Business idea!

This is nothing compared to the WH staffer who was sporting a compromised cell phone at work for weeks.

More info plz?

Information laundrying

A good way to disseminate the fake information to WaPo.

she doesntknow shit anyway lol

So long as she doesn't discuss matters related to her work when she is at home, I wouldn't see why there would be a problem on that front.

It isn't as if she'd be party to state secrets in her role, nor does she need to keep the fact she works for Trump administration secret.

poor opsec

I don't see how having Alexa or whatever compromises opsec any further than any other piece or electronics with a mic. Some day, some dumbass is gonna leave a compromised smartphone or laptop laying around.

At this point, I think everyone should just assume anything one says will be front page news if it suits the agenda of the owner of said frontpage.

If they own a cell phone then they’re already being listened to.

Advertising plug. She’s the plug.

Sounds like you should subscribe to r/hacking and r/privacy. There are ways to force mic and camera communications off when needed. Back doors are constantly updated as well. You can force a high frequency next to mic as well if that paranoid and barely puts a toll on battery life. There are ways.

Because we are more worried about foreign government spying on her. You know, the whole national security thing.