Fentynol is a hell of a drug

you don't have to be a rock superstar to have breakdowns!

A whole bunch more would be ok with me. Narcissists the lot of them.

Mind control, man. The public needs disclosure before they believe anything. It's coming, give it time.

Kanye will be the story that exposes MK Ultra. Watch. He's on Trump's team and when the time is right, he will talk.

Spot on imo

He's on Trump's team and when the time is right, he will talk.

No, Kanye is not on "Trump's team." He may have been for a short period of time or perhaps he just said that to create a media storm...but he has actually publically distanced himself from Trump since.

Anybody who knows anything about Kanye knows that Kanye is on Kanye's team...and that is it.

Don't be so certain.

https://twitter.com/kabamur_taygeta/status/909164889385472001

Umm...is that tweet/twitter account supposed strengthen your point? If anything, it does the opposite.

For those that follow Kabamur, it does strengthen my point.

For those that follow Kabamur

I feel sorry for those that get sucked into believing this fan fiction stuff. This is literally a step DOWN from the Q Anon bullshit that has been distracting and misleading people for months now. One glance through the tweets is all it takes to see how ridiculous this shit is. Soooo....this twitter user is supposedly some sort of insider with connections to "Q" (who has already been debunked as BS), deep knowledge of the spiritual mysteries of our existence, full knowledge about all extraterrestrial species, etc.

How gullible are you guys? Or do you know its BS but just have fun playing along?

Why does open conversation bother you

There is a difference between "open conversation" and some dude on twitter claiming to be some sort of spiritual space messenger that is going to reveal all of life's secrets within 140 characters or less.

I mean it’s not harming you in anyway, there’s nothing wrong with some dude talking about this I’m not sure why it has made you so upset. It’s not necessarily harmful speech although it may be dumb.

No, I try to stay as ipdated as i can on Kanye actually, and i think he is just waiting quietly. he is part of a revolution we dont even know about just yet, but will soon

There will be no "revolution" under Trump...and Kanye has no interest in this kind of "revolution" you speak of. He IS concerned with awakening the populace and revealing the "man behind the curtain" to the world, but he will never do it in the way you are suggesting. He is more concerned with doing that through his art...and honestly right now seems most concerned with his Season 6 fashion line and new Adidas silhouettes.....

you are delusional, kanye is just kanye, an asshole with huge ego, thats spends all his time and energy feeding it. its like you are bot or troll to even put kanye and revolution in the same sentence.

Do people here think trump is nwo or fighting against it ?

There are really dumb people that think Trump is NOT a Zionist puppet.

He terrifies me it always feels like a wind up that he’s president

http://imgur.com/mRR91kS

You can’t watch that video and say they don’t love each other

and that was before Kanye publicy distanced himself from Trump as I previously stated.

Can you provide examples of him doing so? I haven’t seen anything that would lead me to believe that

You gonna be waiting lmao

I swallowed the Trump pill briefly during the election, if only to spite Clinton who I still believe was worse, but he is not our friend. Trump is an Israeli puppet just like every other individual who is allowed to run for president.

Props to you for admitting this.

To be clear: If I could go back in time and vote for Trump again, I would.

I am 100% convinced that Clinton was worse. We would be at war with Russia right now if she had won.

They also drug them as well. I agree with the Kanye statement. This story is HUGE and it has to all come out in bits and pieces IMO. Gotta water it down for the public to buy in. This will all start with removing Scientology tax free status is my guess.

He tried to speak out on his own and got the electro-shock treatment. With backing from powerful people, his story will get out.

Do you not think the 24/7 all you can eat drugs buffet would be a more logical breakdown cause than MK?

Why is it coming?

The public just believes anything the msm tells them.

Even former Secretary of Defense James Forrestal, Coronel Oliver North, and President Jimmy Carter had this type of breakdown which goes to show you to the scale of this underground culture is even unfathomable to men in these positions.

Draco Reptilians. Agartha. Atlantis. Other dimensions. And all sorts of whacked stuff that isn't "real" all of the sudden becomes very real.

But. To be honest. No one really knows. Thats why we are here.

It's jinns.

Ok. Jinns. We get it.

These breakdowns are common to victims of MK Ultra and Monarch

"Monarch programming is a mind-control technique comprising elements of Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) and Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD). It utilizes a combination of psychology, neuroscience and occult rituals to create within the slaves an alter persona that can be triggered and programmed by the handlers. Monarch slaves are used by several organizations connected with the world elite in fields such as the military, sex slavery, and the entertainment industry. "

I think that people are making this much more complicated than it needs to be. Mind Control isn't some pie in the sky, supernatural, magical thing.

The Mind Control in Hollywood is more similar to a Pimp and a Crackwhore, than to what many here imagine. And this phenomena isn't new. Look up Mickey Rouke, or tons of other Child Actors from 1/2 a century, or more ago, who were given drugs in their EARLY(like 12) teens.

They used to give them amphetamines/coke/alcohol. Now they give them adderall, Xanax, and Marijuana.

But, as I said, it's really not all that complicated. They give you an agent, or "handler", who then gains your trust(often by being your doctor feelgood, who will hide your drug habits from the public for you), and uses it to control you.

There's no subliminal messaging. There's no "brainwashing center". There's none of this hoccus poccus. All that this(it's called black magic, when you control people against their will) is, is manipulation, of the garden variety, that we see in every walk of life.

However, the CIA(or whoever) has been pumping the Alex Jones idea of Satanism, and Crazy Mind Control, in order to take this VERY simple idea, and make it unbelievable to the rest of the population. It's like when the CIA released that Dr. Judy Wood, to say that 9/11 was caused by some interdimensional God Ray.

Have you not heard of MK Ultra ?

"Project MKUltra, also called the CIA mind control program, is the code name given to a program of experiments on human subjects, at times illegal, designed and undertaken by the United States Central Intelligence Agency. Experiments on humans were intended to identify and develop drugs and procedures to be used in interrogations and torture in order to weaken the individual to force confessions through mind control.

MKUltra used numerous methodologies to manipulate people's mental states and alter brain functions, including the surreptitious administration of drugs (especially LSD) and other chemicals, hypnosis,[citation needed] sensory deprivation, isolation and verbal abuse, as well as other forms of psychological torture."

I have heard of it. And I believe these methods are used. But it's not the way people think, on this subreddit. The TESTS were done by strapping people down in facilities. But the actual implementation of "mind control" is done in every day settings, as it's much more effective.

It's not like they capture these people, and hold them down, and microwave them until their brains are fixed. Much of this is done by faking friendship. By gaining trust. By taking advantage of vulnerabilities. Once you have somebody's trust, you are in the position to give them drugs, or various other things.

The best mind control, is when you make somebody do something, and they believe it's their own decision. This isn't an instance of forcing people to do things against their will. It's an instance of convincing people that doing what the agent want IS their will.

MKUltra is old hat. The CIA loves that conspiracists use it as an example because it makes them sound outlandish. LSD doesn't make you susceptible to obeying orders.

Much more "mind control" can be accomplished through the technology, psychology, and pharmaceuticals that it is mainstream knowledge are available. You'd be surprised how much you can accomplish through the power of suggestion alone. Why bother with "mind control rays" when you can just manipulate someone's environment and circumstances?

For instance just come up with simple, derogatory nicknames for people and have the fucking President of the US tweet them constantly.

LSD is used in mind control, as are many types of psycadelics. LSD, Psilocybin, etc work by essentially "erasing" old brain "patterns". This is why you can take LSD/Psilocybin, after being depressed for your whole life, and suddenly not be depressed. It has the ability to erase old brain "patterns", which people refer to as their "thoughts", or "personality".

In normal settings, this results in a person being able to "remake", or "rebirth" themselves as a new person(which is why you see the idea of "rebirth" often in modern music/conspiracy theory).

But, this ability to erase yourself can obviously be used to replace somebody's personality more easily. It's not a "get mind controlled quick" scheme. It requires tons of elbow grease, and conventional methods of control, in conjunction to work properly.

The effects of Acid were seen on a massive scale in the 1960's, when suddenly a large portion of the population overnight seemingly "changed", into hippies. When you erase your previous mind brain patterns(which tend to be negative), you end up without prejudices that a normal person would have.

On another note, snowden is a CIA agent. Self Admitted. He's a part of a large scheme, that I really don't feel like getting into. Short of it is that he's a CIA agent(self admitted), who was used to spark the Arab spring, and make people accept international surveillance. Snowden was not a revolutionary(all you need to do is listen to him to know that).

He was a CIA agent, whose job was to get the people to accept international surveillance. And he succeeded.

If anybody is truly interested, I can go more in depth, and provide sources, but it's pretty tiresome at this point repeating the same shit.

How about you make them recite the pledge of allegiance every day for 12 years from the time they are a kid?

I don't even get why people think LSD could control someone's mind. Maybe someone really stupid, but even then he won't be very effective at tasks.

Scopolamine on the other hand is widely available and it's the closest thing to a mind control serum we know exists. I'm sure the CIA invented something better a long ass time ago.

They didn't necessarily think that giving someone LSD would make them controllable while they were under influence, but that maybe LSD would make someone more 'easily programmed'

They were also testing it's use as a truth serum and as a weapon in the field, can we just dose the enemy and render them incapable of fighting?

Scopolamine was also a drug they tested, among others.

LSD is the drug that we know of from mk-ultra. There were tons of other drugs tested, scopolamine 'The zombie drug' was another as well as BZ. I came across a list while researching BZ one time, but can't seem to find it at the moment.

Point is though, we know of their failures.

We're denying known facts now by claiming MK Ultra and Monarch were just giving people LSD to see what happened?

Mind control is not 100% confirmed. Attempts at mind control have been made but show me the evidence that successful mind control has been accomplished.

Lobotomies are still performed and on a much more regular basis than anyone could imagine. It is the most effective form of mind control.

That's not mind control. It alters a person's percetption and behaviour but it doesn't allow you to dictate their thoughts or actions. And it's certainly not what people mean when they talk about mind control with regard to MKUltra.

I've seen hypnosis and learned some basic party trick stuff, and can understand how in theory inducing ptsd in someone and using hypnosis techniques could really fuck someone up.

Entertainment industry full of them.

It's far simpler than even that:

You succeed because of me and The Machine, I have "expectations" as a result, you say no? You can be and are replaced. You'll never work in this town again.

Speak up, and you or your mom or your sisters or the like are dead.

The system really IS that simple.

Not really. It's slightly more complicated than that. Often, when "stars" get rich, they no longer need to work. Or, they choose to change their "entertainment" in a direction that the agent does not want.

Katy Perry, Selena Gomez, Britney Spears, etc, could have just bought an Island, and lived out their days on Royalties, and proper investments. But, the agent is there to keep them in the machine, as long as is needed(which is often longer than the performer desires).

Convincing a person who has a net-worth over 50 million dollars to travel the world, and work VERY HARD every day of their life isn't exactly easy.

Also, there's another problem. These musicians/entertainers wield a MASSIVE amount of power. People listen to entertainers more than politicians, religious leaders, and even their families. That's why they're so heavily controlled. And that's why such extensive effort is taken to make sure they don't make $100 million dollars off the machine, then start destroying it. Michael Jackson is an example of this, and they had to frame him for child abuse, and eventually kill him, to shut him up, because he was too powerful.

And here's how it is done .

None of these programs actually succeed in making people do anything- they where just wastes of money and excuses for the government to drug people and have sex

None of these programs actually succeed in making people do anything

An expert from Harvard who spent 60 hours with supposed Robert F. Kennedy assassin Sirhan Sirhan believes he was induced to commit the murder by mind control:

"Convicted assassin Sirhan Sirhan was manipulated by a seductive girl in a mind control plot to shoot Sen. Robert F. Kennedy, and his bullets did not kill the presidential candidate, lawyers for Sirhan said in new legal papers.

For the first time, Sirhan said under hypnosis that on a cue from the girl he went into “range mode” believing he was at a firing range and seeing circles with targets in front of his eyes.

“I thought that I was at the range more than I was actually shooting at any person, let alone Bobby Kennedy,” Sirhan was quoted as saying during interviews with Daniel Brown, a Harvard University professor and expert in trauma memory and hypnosis. He interviewed Sirhan for 60 hours with and without hypnosis, according to the legal brief."

https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/sirhan-sirhan-and-his-account-of-delta-programming-mind-control/

The CIA-military-entertainment aspect is only a subset of european global occultic criminal syndicates established hundreds of years ago that predate the formation of the USA. I'm quite certain these state security agencies are subservient to these larger powers.

As a Muslim, this screams one thing, they're using jinns . Everytime I hear about alters or disassociative identity disorder I know that they are using these beings known as jinn from other dimensions. Not all jinns are demons but all demons are jinn-kind.

May I ask what a Jinn is hun?

A malevolent spirit.. they are basically what westerners would call a genie but none of the wish granting

Not all are malevolent but many are. I remember someone telling me that they do "favors" in exchange for a person committing dirty deeds, but it was probably a religious thing.

The good ones just mind their own business. It's the bad ones who do these "favors" which are actually issues they create between people among other things. Demons (bad jinns) work with warlocks and such but other jinns just mind their own business and they come in many faiths and religions as human beings. There are Muslim, Christian and Jewish jinns.

Not necessarily malevolent. Like people some are good and some are bad. The bad ones work for the devil and are known as demon .

See if you can find English videos of Abderraouf Benhalima where he explains it. He travels the world doing exorcism through a method he developed. He basically has a conversation with them to the point that a lot of people who watch it the first time and are far away from this domain think it's acting.

What can be done about these jinns?

It's much more complicated depending on the issue. Sometimes warlocks do witchcraft that enables those jinns to go and find somebody and cause him to do whatever the witchcraft is saying. In this case some sort of programming that could be triggered with keywords and such.

People are immune by default unless a gateway between our dimension and their dimension is opened. This can be enabled by causing the victim to eat something or walk over something or do something highly immoral that could attract demons (future workers who wants to execute the witchcraft program, again in this case causing the person to hear and see things that would make him do certain things everytime a keyword is said).

There are different techniques to kick out these demons. The worst of them is to go to other warlocks to make you a stronger witchcraft that could bring demons who would overpower the first ones. The best and most effective one is by changing your life into a more righteous one and staying away from drugs and alcohol and immoral acts and praying to God and reciting the word of God (The Quran).

If you want to learn more about this lookup Abderraouf Benhalima on YouTube. Some of his videos are in English but most in Arabic.

I hadn't thought of that angle before, but it makes sense. Using trauma to induce influence demon possession.

Correct. And not any type of trauma, it makes a deep spiritual hole in an innocent child (child abuse, children witnessing rituals where other children are abused, children witnessing children being sacrified..etc). Sacrifice to demons is one of the bad sins God does not like but it makes the actors in the evil realm come and execute what is asked from them because it fits their satanic/demonic agenda and the devil himself rewards the demons based on the damage they were able to inflict or the number of people they were able to affect or based on the strength of the marriage they managed to destroy. Things of that nature.

I mean it's not surprising that when an individual is lifted to godlike status that when they go home at night and remember they're human it fucks with them. You're constantly under demand to be larger than life and to sell yourself.

But, I'm not disavowing the idea that there is fucky shit going on in media that involves coercion, gaslighting, blackmail, and abuse both physical and mental.

Maybe the millions of dollars and the unlimited drugs they can buy.

Truth.

also people shit talking you 24/7 on social media

It's really easy not to care what people think. I guarantee you most celebrities don't care to a crippling degree.

as long as the contracts and money keeps rolling in.

If it was so easy not to care what people think, places like reddit and other online forums wouldn't exist.

I used to play minor-pro hockey in a small town and I was kind of a local "celebrity." Believe me, it sucks. You can't do anything or go anywhere without someone getting in your face, and then add social media, and local news media, and it's fucking terrible. Now, blow that up into national coverage with full internet exposure and try to imagine what that would do to someone. Seeing your own name and face on the TV with someone saying something shitty about you actually does suck, and it does affect people. You seem to think these are not actually human beings.

I also crossed paths with, and remain friends with some of the biggest names in hockey today. I'm talking rock star levels of popularity. I guarantee you that lots of celebrities are absolutely destroyed on the inside, from insecurity and self consciousness because they're under 24/7 scrutiny. They can't even go get a coffee at Tim Horton's because half the people in the store just can't wait to tell them how much they suck.

If it was the drugs, we'd see the physical toll that level of drug use would inflict.

Yeah, there's no way this ISN'T part of it. When you're sucking down uppers all night, you tend to be a nervous wreck the next day. Even alcohol and lack of sleep causes severe anxiety. Imagine having enough money and so little to do that you keep that high for several days/weeks. It would literally drive you crazy.

On the other hand, people have hinted that weird stuff goes on and we now know that to be true. Still, don't forget about the drugs.

And the constant pressure to perform well, look and act great in public, put out media that will please everyone, sell lots of records/movies/etc, do interviews, flee the paparazzi, deal with fans...

No, OP is right, people going crazy in Hollywood is something more sinister... /s

Thank you. Why don't people think about what KIND of person it takes to do what they do at their level? Perhaps it takes a person that is susceptible to this. Perhaps it just develops. Artists are weird people.

You know one of the leading causes for doing a lot of drugs?

Wanting to run away and not face trauma. You know what causes that reaction?

PTSD.

You know one of the leading reasons for PTSD?

Sexual abuse.

Don’t be daft and put this off as hundreds of entertainers are just being drug addled fuck ups. Something has triggered all the abuse and mental breakdowns. Doesn’t take a genius to figure out what that something is.

Doesn’t take a genius to figure out what that something is.

It's called Cocaine

Oh to think so simply.

Do you think every single person who does rec drugs is traumatized?

No, it's that success means you put out for your manager/producer and record label/studio and such...

Blackballing has serious consequences on it's own. Add the open threats from those allowed to give them...

Doesnt mean some of them dont just get spun out

No, but it does make it easier for them to be controlled if there is a threat on the table.

Ignorance is bliss, eh?

Read the reviews man people are into it

coke is addictive i'll give you that, but the effect is pretty damn mild, i'd say, compared to alcohol. It's like drinking red bull and doing affirmations.

And all the rockstars that get addicted? Were they all touched too?

I get your point, but I think you cant dismiss the temptation of huge money + unlimited drugs + that lifestyle. You live it too long, and the drugs take a toll. Plain and simple. See also what a drug like meth does to those who get hooked. Breakdowns galore.

Dude, I’m a recovering opiate addict myself and I was never abused.

I get it. 100%.

I also never said that all those who use drugs are running from trauma. I can’t (and wouldn’t) say that all of them are because of sexual abuse. But, you nor anyone else can say that some of them don’t turn to drugs because they were abused in that industry.

Anyone who thinks that the entertainment industry isn’t completely ass backwards and fucked up needs their head examined. That isn’t directed at you btw, just a generalized statement.

I appreciate your reply. Even though you disagreed with me, you weren’t an asshole about it. Plenty of users here could take some lessons from you.

-tips cap-

Appreciate also the respectful response.

I think also a 3rd factor that cannot be overlooked is that of personality and upbringing. Take two stereotypical cases: that of a second generation celebrity, and that of you rags to riches Hollywood story.

In the first case, you have a child that didn’t get raised like the rest of us. They don’t gain an accurate understanding of money, humility, social structures and norms, etc. Without the struggles or character building. I suspect this produces personality defects that can manifest later in life as breakdowns and erratic behavior.

In the second case, I think certain insecure personalities are drawn to Hollywood. Think of the clown who is dead inside but portrays happiness on the exterior. Fake and success only temporarily conceal underlying defects and insecurities that again can manifest as breakdowns.

Last thing I’ll say, is that no doubt there is abuse. There are permutations of all these factors that yields the results we see.

Man, I’d add on to this but you really kinda nailed it all. Very well said, and explained.

If I felt like giving reddit my money, I’d buy you gold. Just know that I’ve mentally gilded you, stranger.

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It takes a higher than average degree of neuroticism to pursue the arts, especially to pursue glory. There's no surprise that when the pressure of fame causes a severe breakdown it's often a bizarre scene.

so no celebrities have breakdowns from drugs? They all got PTSD from sexual abuse?

You didn’t read all of my comments, did you?

Go read them all, and then I’ll be happy to engage you in conversation.

Often these drugs are "fed" to these stars, initially by doctors, anyways. An upper here to make it thru the show, a downer there to sleep on the flight. These stars are victims of their situations much like the rest of us.

“... that will keeping you going through the show. Come on it’s time to go.”

Comfortably Numb, Pink Floyd

I would think people following you around 24/7, paparazzi and such. And there seems to be a whole lot of yes men around you which can be very disorienting career wise as well as personally.

I can only imagine in must be maddening to have so many people demanding time, money and attention from you continuously.

yea I bet a mixture of coke addiction and celebrity lifestyle would make most people have a breakdown.

Meh, they're all rich and famous. Fuck them.

Except you're making the presumption that mentally sound people spend the hours, months, years pursuing these careers. There could literally be nothing going on in Hollywood and you'd still find these results. Did we ever think Christian bale was Mk ultrad or Johnny Depp with their aggression? No, they're angry cunts. So why can't actors and actresses just be breaking down from the psychological damage it requires to constantly ve on, be pleasing, be entertaining, constantly maintain a persona and lifestyle. These people have no freedom. Whether they are targets or not, there would still be people suffering the same effects.

To add on to this (although I do believe that MK Ultra is active), professionals experience similar breakdowns to these celebrities. Its just because they are not famous, they rarely get reported by news outlets.

Very true. No one is letting you know that Janet whose kids abandoned her has lost the plot and is marrying her cats. I don't doubt Mk ultra exists in some form, but when the stress of being a celebrity is probably enough to turn you this way, not to mention the childhood factors that may cause someone to want to be a celebrity I am remiss to jump to an Mk ultra Conclussion. Does that mean it doesn't happen? I doubt it.

Poor Janet.

The not-show-biz people around me seem to have similar rates of mental breakdowns and addition problems. Maybe I run with a particularly volatile crew?

Certainly. Doesn't preclude a lot of them being MKs, tho.

Johnny Depp screams MK.

Oh, but he's so much more than that. He was a good friend with Hunter S.Thompson which , well, various things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xa7govSKM4

MkUltra

...and were all taken to Ronald Regan medical center, former home of Louis Jolyon.

Wait what? Do you have a source that they all went there?

Devil's advocate: maybe he's just the best mental health provider in their area?

Look into Louis Jolyon.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5ek2kj/holy_sht_kanye_west_was_forcibly/

Even Bieber had a meltdown. Chappelle too. Chappelle has publicly said that Hollywood is a sick sick place and thats why he left, he needed to get right.

Chapelle also references doing racial humor and realizing that some of the guys on set were laughing at him, and not with him. Dave was sick of the shit.

He says that in the interview but really he stopped the show and left cause cc robbed him of over 500m and then publicly offered him 50m. That's why in some of his first comeback shows he says he should have took the money (50m)

This was revealed first in a katt williams interview and later spoken of at length by dick gregory in one of his interviews.

Link to the interview?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRzqsfO8F4U

don't forget about how black male actors often have to do at least one scene wearing a dress and on the flip side, think of how many actresses have done stripper/sex worker scenes...

I feel incredibly bad for beiber. For a long time I thought the kid was just acting out. But with all the tats I can only imagine what kind of abuse he went thru to make his body undesireable.

I read something that he was in a meeting and a bunch of global elite were there and wanted him to do some fucked up shit and basically promised him mogul status. Like Jay Z mogul status. And he couldn’t do it.

Let me guess – zero evidence was provided for that claim. No witnesses, no credited quotations, no dates, no names. And why would "a bunch of global elite" ask a rich young man who needs nothing from them to do "some fucked up shit" anyway?

Like I said, it was just something I read that supposedly quoted Bieber on it. But my guess would be they have him do that stuff so they have things to blackmail him with. So if they have him on tape molesting a child or murdering someone or something like that, he isn’t likely to expose this global elite group or whatever because they’ll release that to show what he did.

IMAGINE =-o

That makes no sense at all: they want him to do horrible shit so that they can blackmail him into not exposing them. In that case, why didn't they just not show up and ask him to do the horrible shit in the first place? Because of course someone who is hugely wealthy and successful and surrounded by fans and groupies, is going to agree to doing horrible shit when a bunch of old men ask him to.

Why is it that some people think that if you get rich you immediately want to start abusing children?

It’s not so that they can blackmail him, it’s in case they need to. And it’s not a matter of wanting to abuse children. It’s greed. It’s selling your soul to the Devil. Yeah he’s rich as Duck, but you wanna be justin Bieber rich? Or Jay Z rich? Or Bill Gates Rich? That’s tempting to some people. And some people are willing to do it.

You wrote "my guess would be they have him do that stuff so they have things to blackmail him with". But they wouldn't have to blackmail him if they hadn't t asked them to the horrible shit in the first place.

That’s tempting to some people. And some people are willing to do it.

And some people are willing to believe any kind of shit about rich people, from stuffing gerbils up their backsides to abusing children for money. The thing is, though, that the evidence never appears. They're just urban myths.

Like all the “mythical” pedophilia in Hollywood? Yeah... remember that was once a pretty far fetched claim.

First off, you'll have to be more specific about who claimed paedophilia in Hollywood was "mythical". For some years now, most people have acknowledged that child abuse could occur anywhere people get regular unsupervised access to young children. Pre-school kids, schoolchildren, scouts, altar boys, children in reform schools, actors – they're all potential targets for paedophiles, who gravitate to those jobs where they can have that access. And a single abuser can abuse large numbers of children. But the reality of child abuse is that the vast majority is carried out by trusted individuals like teachers, priests, parents, and step-parents, not by shadowy cabals of satanists.

And what paedophilia are you talking about? All I can think of off the top of my head are the Corey Haim/Corey Feldman stories that we've been hearing about for ages and the Kevin Spacey allegation. The rest of the Hollywood allegations I can think of involve adults.

The pedophilia stuff is coming, believe me. They've got to soften the masses minds about sex abuse of adults, first. Then it'll get really ugly. I suspect we may see a mass of actors/actresses come forward and lay waste to all your idols: Spielberg, Tom Hanks, Harrison Ford, Bruce Willis, dozens of execs you've barely heard of but have been enabling this shit for decades.

In other words, you have no evidence that paedophilia in Hollywood is any more prevalent than anywhere else where adults can have unsupervised access to children. And I don't have idols, certainly not people like Spielberg and Harrison Ford.

You spook me, "jim653."

I have seen the claim there is "no evidence that paedophilia in ______ is any more prevalent than anywhere else...." used numerous times for academia, the Pentagon, etc. Not sure why this is considered a relevant point, but it's certainly a good distraction. Perhaps pedophilia is an "epidemic" everywhere, but Hollywood can help mainstream it better because they deliver the media manipulation to the masses.

As for your claims of "mainstream media" saving the day here....well, that's just laughable. NBC spiked the Ronan Farrow story, who had to take it to The New Yorker. The New York Times beat them to the punch because they knew if the New Yorker (or NBC) reported it before they did, the NYT would look extra-bad for spiking the Weinstein story a decade earlier, when Damon/Crowe leaned on the paper.

Why do I spook you? I'm all for holding people accountable for their awful sexual harassment of adults or abuse of children, I just don't think that the fight against such abuse is helped by moving the blame squarely from the individuals involved to some claimed group of shadowy elite with some secret agenda. I'm old enough to have been around when the moral satanic panic of the late 1980s swept around the world (even to my small country), and I saw how much money and police resources were wasted on pursuing claims of satanic abuse.

I didn't say the mainstream media "saved the day". Please don't put words in my mouth. And you've completely ignored my question: who is this mysterious "they" you claimed have to "soften the masses minds"? And why would they need to soften up the masses' minds? You seem to be saying that there is a plan to reveal sexual abuse for some nefarious reason. I'm genuinely curious here. What do you think is going on?

Not sure why this is considered a relevant point

It's relevant because you made a comment implying that there was a lot of paedophilia in Hollywood and that some unspecified people had dismissed it as "mythical", but you've provided no evidence that it is any more prevalent there than in any comparable environment.

As for Hollywood "mainstream[ing]" paedophilia, to do that they'd have to be presenting it as somehow acceptable, and I'd certainly like to know if you have any examples of this. The revelations about the sexual harassment of women and men by Weinstein, Spacey, et al are certainly not being presented in any favourable light, so if you're right and these stories are going to be followed up by further revelations about the sexual abuse of minors, it's hard to see how this could be considered part of a plan to mainstream it, unless by that you simply mean make it more widely discussed.

I think "they" are satanists. I do not think the so-called "satanic panic" was a fraud. The leaders of the False Memory Syndrome group have a very dicey history; if you're a regular in these parts, you should know that.

The mainstreaming of pedophilia is seen in the constant sexualization of children in advertising, marketing fashion, television and the movies. If you don't see it, there's nothing I can do to help you.

What I do know is that no credible evidence was ever produced to justify the satanic panics, while a lot of very leading questions were asked of children by untrained investigators and testimony contaminated by parental questioning.

The marketing of adult clothing and adult-themed material to teenagers and children is certainly a relatively modern phenomenon. But I don't see that as some satanic plot to mainstream paedophilia; it's just rampant capitalism trying to create and exploit new markets. As such, it's not confined to or directed by any particular sector or country. As evidenced by examples such as drug companies pushing doctors to prescribe opiates and tobacco companies first denying the harmful effects of smoking then looking to expand their markets in the third world, you can find unscrupulous executives everywhere.

You see satanists with a secret agenda, I just see greedy people with a very obvious agenda. What I don't get is why those who, like you, believe in satanic conspiracies don't make more of an effort to convince the general public of the truth of their claims. Time and again, I just see people refusing to debate the evidence with skeptics and writing them off as shills.

You really need to read Dave McGowan's work on the McMartin Case and elsewhere. I don't think you're well-informed. In McMartin (and elsewhere) there was never any question that kids were raped and otherwise sexually abused. NO QUESTION. All the medical stuff was there. Same with Presidio. And other places.

The McMartin case came back not guilty because the jury wasn't sure who was abusing the kids. But they all knew somebody was.

Here's Chapter Four, about the McMartin Day Care case, from Dave McGowan's "The Pedophocracy." You should read the entire book, but this should significantly broaden your knowledge.

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/pedophocracypart4mcmartinpreschoolaug01.shtml

Question: why are you on this sub if conspiracy of any kind is not your thing? aren't there enough non-conspiracy sites?

I don't post on this sub myself, other than a comment or two. But seems to me you peoples have some swamp dwellers amongst you.

Because conspiracies are supposed to involve evidence, dates, sources, credible information of some kind. There was a time when conspiracy theory meant something and wasn't just pulled out of people's asses or something they read once.

So, are you the "conspiracy" word police?

You know there was also a time when good manners meant something. And a time when sense meant something (it meant, BTW, "sense", not "sixth sense" and not giving one's six cents). And a time when god meant something.

Why can't you just let people make their own decisions about what "true" conspiracy is? why, you think people in general, and on this board, are so stupid or so uneducated that they can't make up their own minds?

And also, in case you are not aware, one of the signs of creeping totalitarianism in a society is when the thought police show up at every place where people dare to express opinions or evince speculations. Seems to me that something like this happened to the comment section on this sub.

If anyone is reading this little exchange, my recommendation is to engage with commenters according to the merit of their comment. IF they bring a fact or a well-supported hypothesis, that merits a response. But if it's arms waving and gesticulating casting aspersions without offering their own credentials for a rebuttal, then it's best to ignore them and move on.

An aside" I have my own doubts about secret global pedo networks, but that's all they are - doubts. Just as I doubt the existence of an "illuminati" network. I have no proof to bring re non-existence of such. Those who seek proof are more than welcome to continue in their endeavor. Should proofs materialize, I'll weigh them. wasting time shooting down this or that just because I happen to not be convinced is silly. Which is probably the attitude of most sensible people. That's why comments that do just that - frothing around the mouth because some people somewhere on a sub called "conspiracy" may possibly be misleading the darling children who are decidedly not even on this sub.

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Holy shit you were triggered. Letting people just make up conspiracies is exactly where we are and it's anti intellectual in its nature. You should look at some of these conspiracies, a lot of them are based on blog posts or a rumor they heard or anonymous postings on fucking 4chan.

Like I said conspiracy theory use to mean something, back when Alex Jones was uncovering shit like Bohemian Grove. Now he's a madman trying to sell vitamins and water filters using ridiculous conspiracy theories to gain viewers. You're okay with that? Fine, I'm not however.

I was about to credit you with sensibility before I got to the name calling (Berntards?). Unfortunately, when you feel compelled to resort to silly labeling you will likely lose your audience.

I think some of the conspiracies being bandied about are indeed silly, and detract perhaps from deeper and practically verified conspiracies (such as the Seth Rich murder - highly likely to have been an assassination). Sopmething is indeed strange about the LV shooting more because of what didn't than what did happen. And so on. But I have no problem skipping over headlines that don't interest me to get to the ones that do. Why is that so difficult for you?

The argument you bring (if it can be called "argument") is that too many conspiracy theories make no sense and/or offer next to no support. Fine so far, but then, what is it you want? scrub the sub from any but the ones approved by you? and is that not like the 'arguments" presented by TPTB to scrub "Fake" news because they differ from the officially sanctioned propaganda.

Anyways, if you want to debate like an adult fine. But if labeling and name calling and hasty off the cuff comments are your thing, then no, waste of time for me.

why are you on this sub if conspiracy of any kind is not your thing?

Oh, I like a good conspiracy theory. Doesn't everyone? But to my mind a conspiracy theory should not be synonymous with a creative writing exercise using a current news headline as a prompt.

This sub is described as "a forum for free thinking and discussing issues" with a goal of "a fairer, more transparent world". Fairness and transparency are not advanced by the promulgation of unfounded accusations or by a refusal to allow questioning of the claimed evidence.

There are subs where posters have to treat every post as real, even if it's not. This is not one of those. There are subs where no criticism of a topic is allowed. This is not one of them. There are subs for creative writing. This is not one of them. As long as this sub remains a sub with a goal of a more transparent world, I'll continue to question those claims that I think are obscuring the truth.

Just watch the skit what’s his face does. Bo burnham

"Repeat Stuff"? Or something else? "Repeat Stuff" is hilarious until it's disturbing. Very brave, though.

That is the one!

Dude, you’re on /r/conspiracy . It’s not made up, it’s a conspiracy. Just like how the world isn’t flat or spherical, it’s cylindrical. It’s not made up, it’s a conspiracy

zero evidence was provided for that claim. No witnesses, no credited quotations, no dates, no names

This is really rich coming from a conspiracy sub.

the going to church is such bullshit. even rihanna goes to church, so does jayz. they are all satanists

In what world do tattoos equal a history or abuse.

Wasn't my idea, it was from another post I read on here. To stop the constant rape from satanists he got a bunch of Jesus tats and went full faith.

Lol

Don't you know – Jesus tats are to the global elite like crosses are to vampires?! They recoil in horror at the sight of them.

it's an interesting theory. if these guys are satanist or beyond what we imagine true darkness to mean stands to reason true light exists and can be a shield in times of need.

Satanist rape? LOL

Really amazing how you managed to bring up podesta in a thread about hollywood.

It's a tranny, that's why it's so desperate to hide as much skin under ink as possible so people won't be able to analyze its body and realize it was supposed to be female.

There's also a public perception though of fame being a fickle thing that fucks people up. Another person has a breakdown and the talk is, "oh, being famous isn't all it's cracked up to be, huh?" It's not surprising when a shark bites a surfer. It's surprising when a bear bites a surfer.

Here’s the conspiracy- and you might not like it.

It takes an incredibly empathetic or imaginative person to try and understand what it’s like being a celebrity- much less being in that industry (if you aren’t already). There’s a lot of people, who, even if they see what’s going on as wrong, still see the situation with stars in their eyes. The truth is, a lot of what goes on is just not that glamourous.

When you’re a huge celebrity, it’s very easy to lose grasp on your humanity, as well as your humility. Everyone around you sees you as an idea first and person second. Executives see you as a dollar sign. The public sees you as a slut. Or a demon-possessed illuminati member. Or a bad influence to children. Fans can sometimes be extremely overwhelming because they’re take on your reality- who you are as a person, is so skewed, if they see you as a person at all. Every single human being in the world knows how being misunderstood feels. No one is ever going to be truly misunderstood. But we’re shaped by our circumstances. Do you think having voices in your head suck? The people without celebrity don’t have to worry about thousands- and millions of actual other human beings. Sure there are fans who appreciate them and tell them how they love them. But for every fan is another person who tells them to kill themselves. Says how nappy their hair is. How gay they’re acting. How fake they are. Judging your life freely- and feeling entitled to it. It’s not easy to just “shut it off” because it’s everywhere. It’s on the internet, on television screen, even on the racks before the cash register at your local pharmacy. The entire world chiming in on who they think you are and who they think you should be. And in a cutthroat industry, it’s hard to trust anyone. As your life changes and your celebrity increases it’s hard to keep a level head. Especially when nothing is truly real- you’ve got your publicist telling you who to hang out with, who to date, etc. You’ve got your agent suggesting that you sleep with an executive for a deal. You’re working a seven hour shoot overnight only to do a morning show right after, so after spilling to entourage how busy your schedule is- they tell you they can help you- by dropping some pills into your hands that’ll keep you up and energized. You don’t know who to trust, if there is anyone at all.

it’s easy for anyone else to say what they’d do if they were in that position. Except, they’ll never be in your position. They’ll never be in your shoes, have your past and your present. Have your knowledge in the moment. Your level of discernment. Your maturity. It’s so, SO easy for people to say what they would do, when they don’t have to do shit. It’s why this industry is so horrible for children, because they grow up being groomed by everyone around them.

And the thing is, this is how reality is- because outside of your celebrity, there are still people sleeping for promotions in the corporate world. People still pushing drugs to balance college and two part-time jobs. Users on reddit who feel entitled to call you fag, retarded, a horrible person- based on something as frivolous as a comment you made on the internet. It’s world we live in.

And now increasingly in a social media world that grants everyone a feeling of celebrity, with a culture of chasing fame and actually wanting eyes on you- invading your privacy, I’m so so so worried about the mental health of the youth growing up today.

Anyway... this probably going to get lost. It's easy for everyone here on Reddit to say, "Down with Hollywood, their the problem," when it's the everyday person that takes part in culture that keeps the ball rolling. But, whatever....

This is a great summary of a toxic environment. And you are right to worry, the youths of today are in trouble.

There was a good article on the current music hit-makers. At the end they ask the behind the scene makers what it takes to make a star, since really they're writing the music for everyone.

The most astute person responds that star quality is a desparate neeed to escape: Timberlake in Orlando, Rhianna in the Carribbean, and Katy Perry in the Bible Belt. This desire to escape allows the performer to enter into an authentic contract of fantasy with the audience. All are trying to escape, and the star who has a shit life and did some bad shit to get it now delves into the fantasy deeper, escapes deeper.

Someone with a horrible life desperate to escape helps to create a legitimate escapist performance for $20-200 for an hour set.

It's funny. Without the talent and the luck though, they'd be making that $20-200/hr one person at a time as opposed to an audience at a time.

Very well put

extremely well stated!! not only do i believe all of which you have written, but i have a feeling what you stated is the tip of the iceberg and that it gets so much worse!!

A tough read because of all the bock text. I'd break it up into more paragraphs.

It's probably very mentally taxing having tons of people trying to get close to you just for money or a fame rub. I'm sure celebs have a hard time finding real friends and people they can trust.

I worked in the industry for a long time, and most celebrities were noticibly happy when I'd treat them the same as I would any asshole off the street. You're spot on with your assessment of the environment.

In b4 katy perry

boom was denied

Why demand answers when we already know: MK ULTRA.

It's called Monarch.

It also makes me wonder if these kids were groomed from the get-go. And I mean not kids, but babies. Trauma based mind control. Split the personalities young. I've also wondered if this is why certain actors are better than others - they were victims and have the ability to shift personalities with ease.

Most definitely. Listen to Lohan defend Weinstein. She's got a new accent. Different personality.

Look up Dan Schneider. He is the creator of so many Nickelodeon shows, and he is a total pedophile. He hires them to work on his shows too, Brian peck is one of them. Scary af.

Couldn’t be the public’s massive involvement in their lives, loss of privacy, stress, being put on a impossibly high pedestal, paparazzi following them wherever they go, being analysed for every word that comes out of their mouth /s

The Kanye one is the fishiest. He rails on Hillary and the govt lying and is whisked off to the hospital to get “fixed” that night.

What the fuck man.

And his rant at that concert. Going from throwing up triangles with Jay Z to yelling "It's a new world... Jay Z i know you got killers... dont send them at my head"

Scary shit

http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/blind-items-revealed-4-anniversary-month_28.html

Just saw an article about Kanye and JayZ are making up now.

Probably cause Kanye doesn't even remember he said any of that after the electroshock therapy

jay z got the Eminem treatment and now Kanye too. I hope I'm wrong but it sure seems like it.

He's married to a kardashain. You'd have a mental breakdown as well.

That booty tho.

video directed at Kanye after he was taken to the mental hospital (we were told he voluntarily checked in to a hospital, but I’ve also hear

too much booty in the pants is no good

You seen non-photoshopped images? Gross af

And we still haven’t really heard much from him since... so many people just dismiss him as a loony tho because that was the mainstream media’s narrative for a decade (and his way of dealing it, by not playing by their rules, not apologising for things he didn’t do to save face, but instead fight in whatever indirect way he could that just made him seem crazy to the general, unaware public).

DMX made a little personalised video directed at Kanye after he was taken to the mental hospital (we were told he voluntarily checked in to a hospital, but I’ve also heard he was forcibly removed after his last rant about Hollywood/Hillary/MSM), telling him to ‘stay strong brother’ against all the evil in this world. Honestly brought tears to my eyes thinking of the deep shit going on that we might not even know the tiniest bit of, just have a little bit of a general understanding. And people like DMX and Kanye have been vilified and attacked for more than a decade fighting for people who laugh and dismiss them as crazy...

May I ask what MSM is?

Mainstream Media

Fishiest? Preeeeeeetttttyyyy textbook manic depression and/or bipolar symptoms or general psychosis at the very least. He displays lots of signs of paranoid schizophrenia but this would have likely come out when he was younger.

So a political rant immediately followed by hospitalization.....right

Wow. You just diagnosed Kanye with 4 different illnesses in 2 sentences from behind a computer. You must be a fantastic doctor.

Kanye is the GOAT

Have you ever seen a manic bipolar have a manic episode? It looks exactly like that.

makes me wonder exactly what method(s) they've perfected to allow them to control people. My guess is some form of scopolamine alongside some clockwork orange level shit.

The truth is worse than that.

trauma-based programming through severe sexual abuse

Jesus christ

Like lobotomies?

So go and grab the reporters So I can smash their recorders See they'll confuse us with some bullshit Like the New World Order Meanwhile the DEA Teamed up with the CCA They tryna lock niggas up They tryna make new slaves See that's that privately owned prison Get your piece today

I believe Kanye is an MKULTRA victim and the 'Yeezus' album is a veiled attack and a display of disobedience against his masters. He comes closest to directly calling them out on the song New Slaves (lyrics). If you ever have a chance to listen to the album, please do. It is nothing like anything he he released before. It has a very abrasive minimal noisey sound with Kanye's vocals being the most aggressive and the most lyrically explicit in his career. It doesn't make much attempt to be mainstream or 'sell-able' save for maybe one song. It had no cover or disc art either. This is around the time things got the most chaotic for him too. Even if you're not a fan of Kanye or hip hop, it's an interesting listen at least once and he'll probably not release anything like it ever again.

I will say this, SOMETHING VERY FUCKING WEIRD IS GOING ON.

It's called fame. Only a few humans are able to handle it.

Sinead O Connor too

This! Wacked before it was mainstream, too.

I hope this destroys the idea of "Hollywood". There is no purpose having a centralised entertainment industry. Divide it up, support companies outside of California.

DMX. Look closer.

lol why do you pay attention

Lindsey Lohan is a heroin junkie

..and , last I've heard, saudi whore.

Cocain is a hell of a drug

Answered for you

I don't think theres any actual conspiracy here. Years of praise, attention, stupid money, and recreational drug use just seems to lead to this path more often than not. These people don't control the world or have some special influence over us. Sure people like there songs but having a mental breakdown just fits the bill with the lifestyle and culture these types of people are exposed to.

Except every supermarket checkout has shitty paparazzi mags detailing their every move so that everyone can compare their shit lives to the stars.

People have breakdowns. Especially when you have a lot of stress riding on you and are constantly in the spotlight. Nothing is going on, people are just acting like people, they aren’t robots

Charlie Sheen , Marilyn Monroe , ruby wax

McCauley etc there’s loads , Op is correct !!

What's holding you back?

Psychotropic drugs prescribed to fix minor issues such as mild anxiety depression, also they are prescribed for chronic pain...often have HUGE side effects, and the person is ALWAYS blamed, never the drug...big pharma IS SO EVIL

What made you write this today? Did any of the living ones just have a mental breakdown recently?

drugs

Chanel west coast. The list goes on

What happened to my girl Chanel?

She is always having a meltdown at different clubs

Lol

Are there some good pics?

About the same point we admit that, as far as the situation is concerned, they're nothing more than pieces of meat.

No humanity is supposed to be assigned to them.

Britney's probably been passed around to so many men, one can only imagine the horrors she's experienced.

I totes belive that last part! People seemed shocked about Britney's mental breakdown, but seemed to forget that she posed in her underwear when she was 17, and the adults who approved of the photo shoot didn't seem to think there was anything wrong with that idea.

its an abusive system, used and abused and cast off.

google up dead actress, the sheer number of aging suicide or murdered actresses is unbelievable.

Hollywood has an insatiable appetite for 18 to 25 year old sexy starlets, but once they start to look a bit past it, then the work ceases. they are not wanted anymore.

If they are good actresses they can pretty much work as long as they are able. It's the no-talent vapid starlets that come and go.

Nobody would believe the truth.

It's pretty clear that there are evil people in hollywood who like to take advantage of others.

Should be an open investigation into it all

So what of the overlords like JZ, Madonna, Beyonce etc... They like team leaders or sold their soul?

Kanye is my favorite artist and he gets sucha bad rap. This fucking guy is a genius and has inner battles within himself because he knows wtf is going on. All of his albums are his current state of mind and can be all over the place. His latest is gospel-ish at times and he is preaching and their are many times in his music where u can tell he is battling with inner demons. Idk ab all the illuminati claims, the guy has a good heart.

Kanye West is a narcissistic sociopath.

Yes , and so what ? We know. It's literally like you said Kanye has black skin and brown eyes. It doesn't make him less credible.

...fucking mainstream psychology.

Because the comment I replied to said "the guy has a good heart", and I was disagreeing with that.

https://instagram.com/p/BSce-52jKMq/

Agreed. I think it was after the car accident that he went from "sick beats" to "fuck it, I do what I want". Remember when Jesus Walks was revolutionary?

Just know yeezy season is approaching and i can’t wait for his next masterpiece

Oh , yiisssss. Ma body is ready!

obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTqXisnMcS8

I mean... Some people think more than others. The more thoughtful you are, the more you have going for you (unless you've been taken by the hand and shown the world). There's a comfortable noise level in your head that can intensify with stress, and "the industry" schmucks and tax collectors you have to deal with likely outweigh the benefits of having money. At the end of the day, they still have to create, and keep it relatable. Most people can't relate to being a genius who's being drowned by a bunch of hacks with their hands out. Not saying any of those named are genius-level, but I can certainly understand having meltdowns. The conspiracy is that Joe Normal having a breakdown is overlooked in favor of celebrity meltdowns.

Where was Beyoncé’s meltdown

How would you feel if you were to live under a microscope 24/7? Everything these people did was weighed, watched and measured just so issues would be sold and ads would be bought because of the eyeballs that enjoy and can’t get enough of this nonsense. How do we know so much about this, yet we know next to nothing about how our finance sector really works? This is the fantasy we are sold, it’s all about style and sex, yet none of us have any clue what real government policies are being enacted is the mean time while we eat up this complete horse crap. These people are human, just like you and me. What we really need in this world is a little compassion for our friends, neighbors and people we do even know. Listen to people, ask questions, follow your own moral compass and don’t assume that you’ve got it all figured out.

they were in it more for themselves. It was a personal decision and for everyone of these people there is probably another 100,000 that want to trade places.

Chester Bennington, Chris Cornell..

How about insane job pressure, lots of money, lots of drama, sexual tension, booze, and drugs? Does that work for you?

There's really nothing necessarily nefarious going on.

These people are in high pressure jobs. While they're under contract they go from event to event to event to event to sell their brand, music, personality, etc, etc, etc for years at a time almost non-stop.

Lack of sleep, drugs, alcohol, pressure will eventually break down anyone's psyche until they just flip out.

When most people have a break down they do it in the privacy of their own world surrounded by a few close friends and family that help them through tough times. When performers have a breakdown they do it in full view of the public eye.

spillthebeans

I can only speak about Britney Spears, but after she had her public breakdown she was legitimately surgically lobotomized. I will not say how I know this, but it is 100% a fact, and it was done with the legal consent of her conservator, who was under the direction/duress of her record label which she was still under contract with at the time. It was done as a mechanism of control, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are more cases of it. Nobody takes Reddit seriously anymore so I feel comfortable letting this little nugget out into the multiverse since nobody will believe me anyway. Hollywood is so much darker than anyone wants to believe.

I will not say how I know this, but it is 100% a fact

I feel comfortable letting this little nugget out into the multiverse since nobody will believe me anyway.

How to spot a bullshitter

How do you know?

My thoughts on it are nobody is forced to be there. They choose to be in a industry where sexual abuse,and greed has been rampant since the early days. If thats how they want to spend their lives thats their decision.

Biggest name Corey Feldman exposed was someone who helped out Bieber early on. Usher also helped Bieber, and is well known for going after teenage boys.

It's called being a celebrity. Since the dawn of recorded human history people who were regarded as famous figures always lose it at some point. As someone said above they lose touch with their own humanity and humility. I don't think it's a conspiracy by any means.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRzqsfO8F4U

People in stressful situations have breakdowns all the time. Wanna bet it happens to doctors and air traffic controllers too? Lack of sleep, always in the public eye, drugs, stressed you'll get fat. Yeah they snap.

But you lost me at forced dressed wearing, mind control, illuminati sacrifice and pedophilia rituals for blackmail. I saw the meltdowns but didn't go down the same path a bunch of posters here did. Hollywood sucks and needs draining but not for made up illuminati shit, more for being an exploitative cess pool. I thought Dave Chapelle was more pissed off at racism when I saw that interview. Later when I saw it labelled as he talks about illuminai I was surprised.

Its bizarre that people think it's more likely that a combination of CIA mind control drugs, "satanic" rituals and some vague plot is more likely than Good old fashioned partying too hard, not taking care of yourself, stress and simplistic manipulation and social engineering.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

16 years of war in the middle east... yet zero anti war war songs/bands.

must be just just a coincidence and not a conspiracy.

although they did kill john lennon because he was starting to speak out.

You're listing people over many decades here, and many "regular" people have breakdowns and mental health problems (more than ever before, which is its own incredible problem). There are all kinds of external things, as lots of people here have already said, but entertainment celebrities are artists , too, whether you like their work or not. And artists who successfully do art—who are sensitive and often talented people who are able to reflect the concerns or dreams of their audience—are always emotionally fragile people. Even before confronted with, say, thousands of screaming fans or celebrity photogs chasing you through your yard.

I completely agree Hollywood is terminally ill and that it’s vile power games cause irreparable harm to people. Yet at the same time, don’t we all flock in droves to those comic book movies...

Youtubers get MK ULTRA'd too. Just look at Pewdiepie and Marzia talking about their "alien encounters". More like "directed energy weapon attacks".

Basically any node in the social network that is highly connected needs to be controlled.

Some of the stuff Jake Paul does looks like torture eg. handcuffing Tessa Brooks near a pool to a pole and electrocuting her. Expect MK ULTRA breakdowns of people exposed to "fake" trauma like that. Pewdiepie's personality seems totally different after his scare pewdiepie series.

You could give a small concert in your own garage and still have a mental breakdown. Mental breakdowns and world stage businesses are not directly connected.

I work in a psych hospital. Lots of people have mental breakdowns. Make a list of every musician and actress who hasn't had a mental breakdown, and that's your dividend. The names in your title can be the divisor. We'll compare numbers when you're done.

The majority of population is too far gone... They literally dont have the capability to see anytning is out of place. We have to accept that the majority that are already sucked in will never find their way out. Thats just how it is.

Millions of dollars, lots of drugs and buttloads of yes men.. I see where you going.. but I mean come on

Don't forget all the child actors who died of drug overdoses or turned to lives of crime.

You forgot Martin Lawrence. He was waving a gun and saying “they’re gonna kill me”.

Hollywood and showbizness is such a tempting and indulgent world. There's a reason celebrities are adamantly against there kids going into show showbizness. Reese Witherspoon and Ryan Philippe have said that about their kids, Goldie Hawn, Britney Spears, Matt Damon, Brooke Shields, etc.

Oh to think so simply.

No, it's that success means you put out for your manager/producer and record label/studio and such...

Blackballing has serious consequences on it's own. Add the open threats from those allowed to give them...

Ignorance is bliss, eh?

Man, I’d add on to this but you really kinda nailed it all. Very well said, and explained.

If I felt like giving reddit my money, I’d buy you gold. Just know that I’ve mentally gilded you, stranger.

coke is addictive i'll give you that, but the effect is pretty damn mild, i'd say, compared to alcohol. It's like drinking red bull and doing affirmations.

You didn’t read all of my comments, did you?

Go read them all, and then I’ll be happy to engage you in conversation.

RedditSilver!

It takes a higher than average degree of neuroticism to pursue the arts, especially to pursue glory. There's no surprise that when the pressure of fame causes a severe breakdown it's often a bizarre scene.

That is the one!