A lot of us are highly suspicious of MSM gatekeepers. We like to look ourselves. This whole thing stinks.

Don't you think it's weird that Wikileaks have failed to spill the beans on one of the most corrupt countries in the world, lead by a president with a background as intelligence officer? Wikileaks are just lazy because USA are far more transparent than Russia. Easy clicks easy cash.

Or maybe in Russia they give leakers a bullet to the back of the head instead of a free pair of tits so people are less likely to dump files for fortune and glory.

I wouldn't be surprised if that was true, but then why isn't Wikileaks more concerned? Their motto is "We open governments". Seems to me they are cowards who only concern themselves with easy targets in order to make headlines and click revenue. They have neither competence or bravery to go after the dangerously corrupt governments.

Wikileaks does nothing aside from kick back and ask for leaks and donations... they don't actively "hack" anyone. They have lots of shit from Russia but it is all in Russian... so American audiences have no interest in it.

Wikileaks is more like Salvation Army than Amazon... they just sell what people gave them for free... they don't do special orders.

My point is, if they don't have the competence to translate dirt on Kremlin, more than the fairy dust called "Spy Files Russia", they are lazy incompetent cowards. You seem to agree with that and I'm not arguing against you. Just voicing my concern.

I guess we have differing views of Wikileaks... I see like a dude trapped in an Embassy and a few staffers that post documents they receive online for people to read... I think you must be imagining some dashing international spy ring that infiltrates foreign governments, steals their dirtiest secrets, and blows the lids of entire cabals.

You can be concerned all ya want about Wikileaks... but I think Assange has bigger balls than you will ever have in your entire life.

No, I think Assange had balls but sold them to Putin

That damned Putin! Is there nothing he can't corrupt?!? He's so powerful... but not powerful enough to get Assange out of the embassy... and off to Moscow like Snowden.

Snowden was never under the same suspicion of working with FSB as Assange is. Putin is not stupid, as an ex intelligence officer he knows how to play "4D chess".

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/world/europe/wikileaks-julian-assange-russia.amp.html

So Snowden is a clean machine and Assange is a dirty Australian commie traitor? If anything Snowden is much worse cause he literally tried to sell our secrets to the Chinese... seems like if ya wanted to get all wrapped up in Putin-mania you'd wanna go after Snowden instead cause he is an easy target given the circumstances... plus Snowden was American.

No, something happened with Wikileaks management 12 years ago. Suddenly the focus became to destabilize American and NATO global positions. It's no coincidence Snowden was granted asylum in Moscow shortly after.

https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2011/may/13/wikileaks-spokesman-assange-gagging-order

I don't even remember what Wikileaks was like 12 years ago... seems like they still woulda been with crypto.me back then.

No matter how far your memory extends (or how selective it is) something did happen to the direction.

Well Jesus it was 12 years ago... shit changes... CMT used to play only country music... MTV use to play music videos. I dunno what you think is going on but I'm sure ya think you see Putin hiding in your clothes hamper.

No, I connect the dots from the early and latest activity of Wikileaks and the fact that a central figure left Wikileaks on the same claims I am making in this thread. Open your mind.

My mind is pretty open... but no matter what you do you ain't gonna make me all poopy-pants scared of Putin like you... but props to you for coming up with a somewhat original conspiracy... Assange has beenm in Putin's pocket for 12 years just waiting for his chance to... ummmm... I dunno the rest of the "plan" in your head, but I can't wait to see how Putin's 4D chess plays out! We obviously have no choice to bend to his will since he's so smart and powerful.

No, have you not noticed the counter actions currently in play? Wake up.

If you have such a great unbiased overview of this entire situation why don't you go make a topic and lay out all your information for all to see... that would wake plenty of people up. Cause no one is reading this conversation... you should do it for the good of mankind. I'm sure you'd get plenty of attention from the Rachel Maddow crowd.

Im just doing the same thing as the fine people of 4chan echoers that is tD.

Yeah but those boards are primarily known for their trolling... I think your brainpower would be better served making a whole topic about all these marvelous insights you have... cause yer not really teaching me anything... and no one is reading these posts. You gotta get the truth out there and help other folks wake up!

I appreciate you hold me to such high standards, but I'm just a concerned citizen connecting the dots.

But if this is old news to you, if you think what I'm doing is right, you could start with not trying to undermine me. You are also welcome to continue with your completely made up theories without any evidence except 4chan threads. It won't change anything.

You just keep hinting at having some eye wide open view of the big picture and I'd love to see it all laid out in a paragraph. It would be quite useful to waking up the folks on this board... you could even use some links to provide supporting evidence... but I feel like it would just end up looking exactly like an /r/politics/ megathread.... but you are free to prove me wrong and bust out some next-level wokedness.

I mean, I think it's obvious you have confirmation bias even though you try to claim otherwise. But don't worry, things are happening and people will be prosecuted. It just won't be the people in your made up theory, rather it will be based on confirmed facts. Just wait and see.

What? My theory has no claims as to who will be arrested... but I'm hoping it is a whole fuckload of people that deserve it. I don't care who goes down... though I'd kinda like it is Comey turned out to be a hero in the end... so I hope he's exempt from arrest... and keep Tulsi Gabbard free too... she cute as hell.

Good enough I guess.

I'm already satisfied with how things are going... I pay close attention to the DOJ and I really like the direction they are heading. But I wanna see your big picture theory as to what is really happening... cause we've had this conversation for like an hour and all I can glean is that "Putin is bad and he controls everything!"

Just keep your mind open for the Mueller investigation and you will see it.

Yup yup... Mueller is a good start cause he was given a load of cash and a long leash... hopefully he nails some more smarmy lobbyists. Glad he was just let loose on D.C. cause I get the vibe he ain't gonna play partisan politics with it... I think he'll go after anyone he can get a conviction on.

I hope so

I'm already satisfied with how things are going... I pay close attention to the DOJ and I really like the direction they are heading. But I wanna see your big picture theory as to what is really happening... cause we've had this conversation for like an hour and all I can glean is that "Putin is bad and he controls everything!"

Does wikileaks leak stuff any more? All I see is Assange tweets on this sub any more.

This! Something happened to Wikileaks management some 12 years ago. They went from releasing highly explosive leaks to reposting think pieces and publicly available information, focused mainly on information destabilizing American positions.

My guess is they have found their core costumers and adjusted accordingly. Possibly with financial aid from the Kremlin.

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To spell the conspiracy theory out for you: Wikileaks is working for the Kremlin.

That's what they all say you cockass

Haha "they all say"? I don't think anyone in tD believe that conspiracy. Don't be a sheep. Open your mind.

Disinfo, thy name is u/f0r4b3773rm3

Nah, just because what I'm saying doesn't align with your personal narrative doesn't mean it's disinformation. Plus, I would argue that tD is flooded with misleading and fake info. If you can't accept a different perspective, why don't you stay in your censored safe space?

I didn't mention /r/the_Donald . You did. I have no association with that sub. And what you're saying is disinformation, not because I don't agree with it, but because there is nothing supporting your statement. Literally all the shills try to say Assange is compromised, Assange works for Russia, blah blah blah. Dude, Hillary Clinton herself says Assange is "a tool for Russian intelligence". We all know how truthful she is.

So, something is only true if a few people say it? Just considering all the doomsday prophecies I think that point has been proven quite incorrect.

You're grasping at straws, m8

No, you are grasping at straws my friend.

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Jeez that is such an insightful comment there

You have such an insightful perspective. Tell me more.

WikiLeaks would give us the data, expanding the fact base that we use to expose powerful liars despite the propaganda flow. The establishment press has added the data to its blackmail trove, expanding its power to destroy its opposition. In this go round, they are using their blackmail trove to attack social media ... aka US!

I'm curious as to how we even know the papers are legit? Without even being able to see the documents how do we know that information isn't being distributed to form a narrative and keep other relevant information silent? Is it possible this whole thing is fabricated by a nefarious source? I don't know but I'm going to take everything I hear with a grain of salt.

what?!

WikiLeaks and more specifically Assange has been LONG EXPOSED as a Zionist collaborator. That is not to say the information disseminated by them is FALSE. Merely well placed. Look no further then the complete and utter lack of intel leaked regarding Israeli Ops / Mossad/ Nyetanyahu etc. And if your rational response for that is "well maybe they just dont have any dirt on them" you need to readjust your perspective

This! Something happened to Wikileaks management some 12 years ago. They went from releasing highly explosive leaks to reposting think pieces and publicly available information, focused mainly on information destabilizing American positions.

My guess is they have found their core costumers and adjusted accordingly. Possibly with financial aid from the Kremlin.

My point is, if they don't have the competence to translate dirt on Kremlin, more than the fairy dust called "Spy Files Russia", they are lazy incompetent cowards. You seem to agree with that and I'm not arguing against you. Just voicing my concern.

Well Jesus it was 12 years ago... shit changes... CMT used to play only country music... MTV use to play music videos. I dunno what you think is going on but I'm sure ya think you see Putin hiding in your clothes hamper.

No, have you not noticed the counter actions currently in play? Wake up.

That's what they all say you cockass

I didn't mention /r/the_Donald . You did. I have no association with that sub. And what you're saying is disinformation, not because I don't agree with it, but because there is nothing supporting your statement. Literally all the shills try to say Assange is compromised, Assange works for Russia, blah blah blah. Dude, Hillary Clinton herself says Assange is "a tool for Russian intelligence". We all know how truthful she is.

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