Voat is getting worse?

9 2017-10-17 by WestCoastHippy

I was highly suspicious of Voat from the get. Their symbol is literally the 6-pointed star of david/two triangle hexagram; one up and one down. Now, they've added a goat graphic that is symbolic of Baphomet, there is a clear 5-pointed inverted star shape to the goat.

I went over there to chat NorCal fires, and was shocked at the negativity and, frankly, mis/disinformation occurring. Everything was LOUD and EMOTIONAL and lacking a whole lotta discourse.

Hopefully they are still finding stuff, but honestly I think Voat was created to be a limited hangout for p-gate specifically. Like "Fake News," Voat popped up at that time outta nowhere.

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When Reddit was being purged of some users I went over there to check it out as it was being mentioned here a lot as a new alternative. It became dominated by racists. Haven't gone back unfortunately. Don't really want to see posts saying N****R this and that.

I have my suspicion that a lot of those racist are shills to make the whole place look bad. Same thing happens on 4chan. It's a brilliant strategy if you think about it.

Yea I figured that was fairly common knowledge to those who frequent these forums.

Granted, my non-curious friends will parrot whatever MSM most recently said about 4chan, so it's working.

There's some shills, some trolls, and some genuine racists. Not sure on percentages.

Voat has free speech, reddit does not. There are racists on voat certainly, just as there are on reddit. The difference is that on reddit everything is whitewashed so that corporate interests can make more money by keeping the discourse mainstream.

Voat now reminds me a lot of reddit 8 years ago.

Fair point. Maybe I'm just being a baby.

I don't frequent Reddit outside r/con and a few hobby subs. I cannot speak to "Reddit." I can speak to r/con. The discourse on r/con is much more level-headed.

a small number of people say things that offend you, so you reject all possibility of discussion with anyone else there and just leave?

Well, the content wasn't that great either. The conspiracy sub was ok. Never got to using an account there, just lurked.

i think voat was an attempt by the shills here to move the community to a place more suited for thier control schemes. i think reddit actually has lofe left and if we play our catds right we could bring it back

Honestly I thought the exact same

one of the last places censorship is at an all time low compared to the rest of these types of sites.

if you are an adult and can handle scary words sort of like 4chan you will have an alright time.

Free speech or open discussions always look scary to some and if you give these scary words power imagine what else you gave power too.

Scared? LOL, more like bummed. It might be free and open, but it's vaguely incoherent. Borderline unhinged and rant-y. 4chan way more intelligent and coherent.

i think it's hilarious that baphoment was just invented as an early form of psy-op propaganda/disinfo against the knights templar, and almost a thousand years later, it's still being used the same way.

Its origin is perhaps even earlier, as a preindustrial parable for that pesky "human nature" that kept bringing down Communism..?

These two together make a fantastic delve down the rabbit hole:

Jordan B. Peterson - Biblical Series IV: Adam and Eve: Self-Consciousness, Evil, and Death

The Cosmic Serpent: DNA and the Origins of Knowledge

Peterson references this book in the first video, I'm not leading you down and entirely disconnected trail.

Yea well Knights Templar were Baphomet types so.... not sure the point here. Curious about the claim tho if there is any reading on it.

Baphomet symbolism exists and has meaning. That symbology and meaning is being used on Voat.

uh, the catholic church literally just invented baphomet as a smear campaign against the templars, if you aren't aware.

some new age mysticism and modern wiccans and the like have adopted baphomet, but like all the other deities, it's just made up

Does not the act of adoption from new age mystics/wiccans give it meaning?

i never said it was meaningless

smh, thanks. I can't read.

Clearly I was unaware, I then asked for any literature.

I wasn't saying Baphomet is real, just the symbology used communicates certain things. Santa Claus doesn't exist either, yet that symbology carries weight and meaning.

The co-opting of symbols itself has become a symbol (praise kek?), and so at this point literally anything is possible. But that doesn't mean it will carry any meaning.

There is only one group that co-opts symbols. The same group uses inversion. The meaning of the goat/baphomet is symbol is defined, so, no, not anything is possible. If they are using a goat with the inverted 5-point star, then they are invoking Baphomet and all the weight and power and content it carries.

In the same way that (to an uneducated Westerner) a Swastika only represents Nazism, and not the underlying Indian/Asian philosophies it was earlier associated with.

Great examples! That is all the same group. Dagon is Sumerian is Babylon is Moloch. There isn't any co-opting going on there, as the line remains unbroken from Priests of Dagon in Babylon to Catholic Priests in the Vatican.

Now I get an Invalid Log-in Attempt. My handle and password are still entered in the text boxes, and I clicked "Remember Me." When I open a new browser, my handle and p/w auto-populate... but still I get a Invalid Attempt.

Odd?

Voat predates pizzagate by 2 or 3 years. I am trying to recall what the drama was that caused the first exodus.

Thank you for that clarification.

np I am going to go ahead and guess that it was flytape/mod drama but someone can probably correct me.

Ellen Pao, no longer open source, wanting to be a "safe space"

Ah yes thank you.

voat getting worse than the racist shithole it's been since fattening exodus?