Wynn

why do you think hes lying about that?

Maybe Wynn is saying that photo isn't him.

what photo? i was just talking about the alcohol issue

The one photo the news shows of him holding a shotglass

Even the group photo that was posted here somewhere of him, a bunch of asian/islander women with 3 white guys. One of them was Paddock with the same shirt on as the shotglass photo. Mysteriously, there was only water bottles on the table and no alcohol in sight. We need to find our who took the shotglass pic and the group pic.

Have you seen more than two photos circulating of the man? For someone who seems to have all the answers and incessantly argues against anyone who isn't parroting the MSM narrative, you seem to be uneducated about the topic.

thats a pretty stupid comment, buddy

is this an msm website where they put their story across or is it a website where lots of easily debunked theories and assumptions are posted?

if something is easily debunked, would it not be hypocritical and dishonest not to say so?

why should the msm be immediately dismissed as false, but everything here should be blindly accepted as the truth?

Seriously, look at the number of comments you've made over the past few days/week. How have you not seen that photo? Attacking me does nothing to bolster your argument.

who said i hadnt seen the photo? literally nothing ive said suggests i havnt seen the photo. and dont whine about "attacking" when that is literally all youve done in this thread

I'm asking pointed questions. You've called me stupid. You're the one attacking..

you made an accusation of nefarious motivation.

you still havnt answered any of my questions

Again, I questioned you. You called me stupid. This isn't even subjective . You've done the attacking.

and whats wrong with asking which photo he was talking about? its actually odd that you took issue with that

It's because the media and authorities have been sharing precious little actual evidence with the public. I've only seen two photos of the man circulating since this happened. Have you seen more? Like I said, you comment incessantly day and night, yet never seem to know anything beyond your limited MSM viewpoints. This is my subjective opinion and can be disagreed with, but you comment history is very telling imho.

i think theres about 5 or 6 photos of him.

no photo was mentioned in OP's video so how was i to know which one the comment was about.

i probably do share some viewpoints of the msm, and i certainly dont have an issue with evidence not being released yet. but if youre going to ignore what i say in favour of your agenda then then i dont beleive youre as subjective as yo would like to believe

Do you know what subjective means? Anyone can have a subjective opinion; I'm searching for objective facts which seem to be few and far between.

facts which seem to be few and far between.

exactly. we have barely any info, yet people are continuously posing easily debunked assumptions as if they are the only correct answer

People are asking questions because what we've been told makes no sense. You're trying to convince people that the MSM narrative is entirely factual, while attacking those who are pointing out the inconsistencies found within said narrative. There's a huge difference. The people questioning are open to new information, but you seem very limited in your viewpoint and I don't know why.

You're trying to convince people that the MSM narrative is entirely factual

not even close. show me an example of me arguing that speculation is fact in favour of the msm

I'll let others decide for themselves based off of your comment history and rhetoric.

no. you made the accusation. now back it up. and you still havnt answered any of the questions i asked

To clarify; OP is talking about the very first photo released of the man with a shot glass in his hand .

he already answered that. why have you repeated it?

Perhaps you'll remember it this time.

no, you repeated it because you want to give the impression there was confusion or argument about it.

and heres my comment from the first time this was posted. http://prntscr.com/gv7yi4

That only reinforces my point. If you've seen the photo and even commented on it, why do you seem unaware when others being up inconsistencies within the narrative?

the photo was not mentioned in the video afaik so it could have been literally anything he was talking about. "the photo" is really kinda vague.

Understanding context clues goes a long way, especially when there have been very few photos released of the man. One of them is the man holding a shot glass and you've proven that you've already seen and commented on said photo. Nothing is vague about the situation. I'm happy to clarify and indeed have, but I'm just surprised that someone so involved with the topic wouldn't immediately know what's being discussed.

where did i prove that i had seen and commented on the photo? seriously mate, youre all over the place

I apologize, you've seen the photo but hasn't admitted to commenting. I'll take a look at some of the older threads and see if you're anywhere near there.

i probably have commented on a thread with the photo in it. as soon as he said what photo he was talking about i instantly had a good idea which one he was talking about.

the point youre not grasping is that there was no mention of this photo in op's video so i asked for clarification on which photo he was referring to

The photo the media is using of him where he is taking a shot. That's the only recent picture of him and Wynn makes it a point to say he never drinks.

Because he also said that a DND sign on a hotel door for 12 hours is suspicious..

This is what drives me crazy. Wynn only has knowledge to speak of his comps in his hotel, not in life in general.

All the hotels turned their lights out for 10 mins last night except wynn.... I wonder why? He doesn't want any part of this coverup and doesn't agree with it?

+1 for username

Wynn-ing

Isn't one of the main pictures of this dude a photo of him taking a shot?

yes

Clearly Wynn has seen that picture. For him to go out of his way to state explicitly that Paddock never had a drink is very strange when the only picture we have is him with a drink.

Since this is r/conspiracy, this almost seems like a nod from wynn saying you aren't getting the real story.

Yes!

If at least an attempt to say "this shit woul've never happened on my property!"

how is this not in the title?? It's the single biggest thing here....Sounds like the casinos or at least the MGM is trying to cover this up if they let him use a service elevator...that would be insane lawsuits especially if he took the guns up that way....theres def video in a service elevator....

Kinda like how the brother is wearing a crisis actor shirt... he's giving us breadcrumbs as ur not getting the real story.

The conspiracy here is to expose the cover up of the las vegas shootong. Maybe this was bait for deep state and they took it hook line and sinker.

What is a crisis actor shirt? I must be missing that.

In the brother's first interview he is wearing a shirt to a small music company or something similar to that. People linked that to a woman they believe to be a crisis actor in Sandy Hook and again in Vegas.

Wynn would only know whether he had drank in his hotel or not. You can't expand his statement beyond that knowledge.

It would be interesting what other casinos say about this. Maybe he didn't drink in Vegas because he didn't want to make a mistake gambling?

Wynn obviously knows WAY more than anyone but law enforcement. I don't think much happens in Vegas that he isn't privy to. Pretty much everyone in town needs to act like they are on his payroll, because either they are, or they will be replaced by someone who is.

Plus, even without the dark politics, just as a casino owner, they are going to get more information quickly to adjust security measures.

Wynn obviously knows WAY more than anyone but law enforcement

EDIT: Wynn knows more about whats happening in his town then the LSVPD and FBI combined. Save this video. He just said service elevator out of the fucking blue. And the whole hey this guy doesnt drink

Maybe he didn't drink in Vegas because he didn't want to make a mistake gambling?

This is exactly right. In a civil suit Paddock filed against the Cosmopolitan he states on record that he never drank while playing, in order to keep his wits and not make mistakes.

So Wynn probably never saw him actually drinking, so he just assumed he didn't drink.

He didn't just assume though and he said he never drank (with dinner). I'm not saying Paddock didn't drink, he clearly did. I'm saying the most emphatic thing Wynn says here and he even comes back to it after getting side tracked is that this guy never touched a drink.

what he is saying is...

"our extensive and detailed casino customer records show he doesn't drink."

And if you spend much time in vegas. they know more about you than even the govt.

There was also a radio caller who claimed to be an old neighbour of the shooter and said they often drank & played video poker at a nearby bar

Yeah that guy called into Michael Savage's radio show and he said Paddock and him used to drink beer together and hang out a lot.

Yes. Wynn stated he did drink, but he probably meant "in his hotel"

That same picture appears to be photoshopped. Check out the girlfriend's elbows and pitch black couch.

That was before he joined isis

/s

There is videos of Paddock drinking

In the last six months, since he joined ISIS? jk

Gambling is prohibited in islam too.

True.

Source?

Just read an article on CNN where supposedly Paddock was diposed in a lawsuit and he said he never drank when playing. The plot continues to thicken

This actually makes everything make sense. Wynn saw him usually while he was playing, so he never saw him drinking. But the dude obviously drank because we have pictures of him doing so.

I don't want to say we can put this to bed completely, but there is at least a rational explanation that fits the facts.

In the deposition Paddock said he gambled 14 hours a day, 365 days a year. That leaves ten hours for boozing and sleep. It also said they found a bottle of Valium which contained around 14 pills left out of 60. But the bottle was over a year old.

I’m no conspiracy person per se, but I find the media and govt to be completely fishy with this entire thing. Nothing concrete ever just adds up.

The deposition was for a slip and fall lawsuit against the cosmopolitan hotel. If he was a guy gambling a million dollars a day, they would suck his dick here to Sunday if he slipped and fell in their casino. The hotel ended up winning that case. Strange

There is a point for all of us where we get a peek around the edges of the show. I was into UFOs, but the rest of this shit, at best, made me chuckle at how serious everyone was. Now, I really won't put anything past the bad guys. I still play devil's advocate quite a bit, because there are lots of obvious explanations that are completely avoided by our group here, but that is just reflex at this point. Pretty sure it is worse than our most paranoid imagine.

If you have a "stash at home" from a prescription, it's possible you put a few in an old pill bottle to take with you.

No one ever does that... nope.... me neither...

I do that with my ADD medication to make sure I have some at work.

Will the real Stephen Paddock please stand up....

I'm sure that in his deposition, he fluffed the facts. I don't know why he lost, but there is no indication it was due to him having a history as a drinker in the casino (contributory negligence).

He probably stated that as fact because he knew they knew they didn't have any vid of him doing it.

I don't think he was as big of a gambler as is being made out. Wynn said he was a modest gambler by their measures. He sent his brother a picture of a $40,000 jackpot. That suggests winning $40,000 was out of the ordinary. I would guess he gambled $10-20,000 a day. He probably played $100 hands of video poker. Not really a big fish by casino standards. He was pretty much the smallest fish in the high limit rooms.

In his deposition he stated he gambled upward of a million a day, which could be utter bullshit. My point is there seems to be discrepancies on everything when it comes to this case, and that’s what tickles the spidey sense. Nothing is ever cut and dry.

I’m assuming if Wynn knew of him, the guys under Wynn knew every detail if Paddock’s life, down to how many shits he takes a day

His "neighbor" called into a radio show and said he drank beers and played poker machine at local bar every night. Make it sound like he loved to drink.

He sounded credible. But again, drinking in a local bar playing $.25 shooting shit with your neighbor, and then getting a haircut the next morning, IN MESQUITE, has nothing to do with drinking in a casino.

All reports indicate he treated gambling, in the casino, using a comp card, like a job.

Dude looks like he loves alcohol

right? looks like a straight up alcoholic

Diabetes?

There was no shooter. So who cares is the fake character they created for you drank or not

These casino people are a law unto themselves, there is a thin blue line with them. I'm pretty sure this is why we'll never see a "motive". Don't flay me r/conspiracy. Even if there is a deep state connection, these guys would cover it up. They'd literally go out of business in toto if any truth came out.

He never drank at the casino. He considered it a job and he needed to be alert to do it successfully.

Certain medical conditions can make your breath smell like alcohol when you did not consume it.

Is that even his real name?

They all look like coked-out pedos to me who can't be trusted.

Never say never

who remembers someone that came in for a routine haircut months ago breath. especially since at the time he was mostly of no importance. Now that he is the "worst shooter in American history" you suddenly remember some mundane interaction. Odd.

Literally everyone that has a regular barber.

X10 if the town you live in has a population of 17K

i have daily interaction with coworkers and regular customers and buy materials several times a day from the same stores and i couldn't tell you specifically a day so-and-so smelled like alcohol. Plus IF the guy that called the radio show was legit, he played video poker and drank beer regularly. So, having alcohol on his breath would not be such an out of the box thing that it would be filed away in your brain. $.02 just a thought.

It's a hairdresser's job to be sociable and remember the small details about their clients. You just sort of pick those things up when you are so incredibly close to people so much

I do. I worked with public for over a decade and haven't worked that job in 4 years. I can specifically remember people who were drunk, smelled like pot, or on other substances. I can still remember where they live. I've easily met tens of thousands of people over the years. Some people have better memories than others.

not saying it isn't possible just odd. My business is a service based company and we truly meet a new stranger every day. i could not tell you what color shirt Suzie-Q wore when we fixed her garbage disposer months ago. maybe it's just me.

How does a link to a body cam video relate to "hairdressers version of his drinking"?

I read the assertion from the hairdresser last week, but the above link isn't it.

Important distinction. The hairdresser lives in Mesquite. The neighbor (of 6 months) in Mesquite used to drink with him at the local bar.

Considering the facts of what we know about his player's card and the way he approached gambling as a "job" it is entirely possible that he drank when "not working", i.e. play high stakes video poker for mostly perks.

The photos of him taking a shot are in the phillipines, not in a casino.

Steve Wynn would only have information about his comps and behavior inside HIS hotel.

They both could easily be telling the truth....

Both could be telling the truth

Steve Wynn is blind...that might explain a lot.

Alcohol is odourless.

Someone who is drinking is not. Let me tell you about my alcoholic mother. Trust me, you know if someone is drinking.

Yeah, but alcohol itself has no odour. You cannot smell alcohol on someone's breath, as American cops might have you believe.

It's nitpicking, is all.

What about the prostitute?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4959970/Vegas-prostitute-says-Stephen-Paddock-enjoyed-violent-sex.html

a Las Vegas prostitute who was hired by murderer Stephen Paddock has spoken out about their 'violent' sex sessions and how he bragged about having 'bad blood'.

The woman, who spoke anonymously, said she would spend hours drinking and gambling in Sin City with Paddock, who she described as 'paranoid' and 'obsessive'.

Hmm that article says the paper had hooker phone numbers, others say it was wond speed and trajectory calculations.

If he was drinking heavily at the time of the shooting I'd have to say I'm amazed he was performing complicated calculations for bullet trajectory

that could have been done at any point of his stay there... not just while supposedly drunk and right before shooting.

In order to 'answer' how does a 64 year old who doesn't look like the picture of health get 100s of pounds of guns, ammo and equipment into the room let alone his car to/from other locations they had to paint a picture of health although without a hardcore fitness routine and/or supplements including steroids the lone gunman narrative doesn't fit.

I wish ppl would stop asking how he got the guns to his room. Has no one ever been to a fucking hotel?

You need to get out more.

Seems the stories coming out has him with some big changes in his life over the past year- stock piling gun, rapid weight loss, drinking, and possibly personality changes.

Look into what was going on in the phillipines, reno, and the us elections last october and it kinda makes sense. Last oct wss a very tense time if you remember.

Just because he didn't drink at the hotel/while gambling doesn't mean he never drank.

Why the hell would would you lie and put that Steve Wynn says he never EVER drank in the title? He only says he never saw him drink. You're the one that's lying with this shit whore title.

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I don't think either are lying...I think Wynn just might be ill informed. After all, the shooter was pictured holding a shot. Not saying that says he is an alcoholic but Wynn claimed that the shooter never drank. Maybe he just hasn't when Wynn was around.

i think theres about 5 or 6 photos of him.

no photo was mentioned in OP's video so how was i to know which one the comment was about.

i probably do share some viewpoints of the msm, and i certainly dont have an issue with evidence not being released yet. but if youre going to ignore what i say in favour of your agenda then then i dont beleive youre as subjective as yo would like to believe