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It's nice to see this here. I have had some strong disagreements with folks around here, and in the current political climate it's good to be reminded that we are all people who should do our best to look out for each other.

Any particular reason this is done in /r/conspiracy ?

I'm not against the idea, but isn't the whole system just for this exact thing? That succulents go in /r/succulents and /r/conspiracy has things related to conspiracies? Isn't that the whole point?

So wouldn't this be more fit in the plenty outdoor or camping subs? Or maybe even askreddit with a topic "what should people know during Irma"? It is not like they are going to throw you out and you can only hang out here.

Don't get me wrong, this is a pretty good sub to get the opinion of some doomsday preppers, but I doubt that Irma victims need a bomb shelter, start their own vegetable garden and gather gold.

If you have just survived a hurricane, I'm pretty sure that surfing through 600 page pdfs about surviving in the jungle for a month and laying traps for rats is not really in your schedule at that moment.

People always save all these documents, but I would want to know how many have actually read and learned from them. And seen if they are possible to pull off.

Because otherwise it's like throwing "Puberty: What is happening to my body" books to a man who has just gotten his arm torn off.

And that's fine, I'm just pointing out that if one would want to do good, he might do more good in relevant subreddits.

Along with that, post some material directly prepared for hurricane victims , not thousands upon thousands of pages of survival in the desert.

I do think you are doing a good thing, but one must always consider the state the victims are in and the exact needs that they have. The line of thinking they'd do. Would a man who is need come to /r/conspiracy , from all places, to look for help? If he does come to reddit, for one reason or another, does he go on /r/conspiracy and if not, then does a sub of this size has a chance to get to /r/all ?

I appreciate the thought, I just think that another thought to base the first one on would be in order.

What a weird bone to pick in the face of a natural disaster.

Yeah that's fair. I read the entire convo after posting the initial comment and saw that he was legit trying to be helpful as opposed to being a forum slider (which is where most of these semi-useless comments originate from).

If it made you refine the info into something tighter and more useful then it's all good. Ignore my bitching haha

Don't send miltary guides but ordinary family guides. Older heavier women for example cannot hunt/build a shelter at all. Be careful.

Thanks for spending the time to link these.

You have already helped with these.

WTF has this got to do with conspiracy? seriously ffs.

You want to survive any hurricane? Easy... Don't be there when it hits. Your stuff is not worth your life you can always buy them back( specially if you have insurance)

No... Not your social use your driver license number or id number you don't want somebody finding your SSN because if you die or are alive they will fuck your family that survive. I call Social security number the "Super Secret Number" because with this number it can open a lot of doors for somebody.

No prob buddy...

what blows my mind is how many poorly constructed homes and shacks are built in hurricane alley.

we make fun of the trailer parkers who always just rebuild and wait for the next one, but why in the hell are they not rebuilding these things to be hurricane/ tornado proof when they get obliterated like this?

remember when people come asking for donations, to only donate to organizations that focus on future prevention and mitigation when it comes to rebuilding funds. we dont need to piss away billions in building new homes that will just get knocked over in the next one.

I never liked wood frame homes , never understood why would make your home out material that could easily be blown /burnt / rotten away. I know wood is a good insulator but they are much better construction materials than wood.

i think its mostly a cost thing, building in concrete can be pretty expensive.

but building a wooden house 15 times is probably a lot more expensive than one that can survive hurricanes for 15 years.

I don't know about that, I know that in Mexico 98% made are from concrete and they are not rich. Maybe there are laws and regulations that make it more expensive to build a house using stronger materials.

i think the reasons would be that form of concrete is very cheap (also i though most were made with brick)

you can still build a crappy not strong house with concrete, its all about the regulations regarding building tolerances.

for example parts of canada you have to build a roof strong enough to hold 6 ft worth of snow on top of it, in some areas it much more.

Yep, for sure.

it's really amazing how dade and broward really did stiffen our building codes.

if you live here, it seems so incongruous. part of it is that our windstorm insurance is really high and they are very strict. since mortages require insurance to get a loan your house has to meet code.

most of the places were hurricanes happen outside of SOFLA have cheap insurance, because so much of the damage there is high water, so the companies don't have to pay (flood insurance is only avail through the fed govt, vecause insurers refuse to offer it). without the insurance premiuim pressure, no one is motivated. fo us wind is the biggest problem, so during andrew they had to pay.

we build primarily in concrete block. the homes before 1970 were almost all concrete block. the morning after andrew, a flight over an area that had a mobile home neighborhood, next to a stick-frame neighborhood (this is likely what you live in), next to an older concrete neighborhood, showed that the mobile homes were turned to match sticks, the stick frame homes almost all lost their roofs, windows, and suffered at least 50% of theur walls. the old homes all had their walls and only localized roof damage. that aerial foorage of that is really responsible for our current building codes. builders were sued by thousands.

we also really did become very streamlined and effective with our emergency response. for some reason we learned our lesson from andrew, but no other hurricane prone areas seem to have been.

people don't understand how hot and humid it is here in SOFLA right now. the heat index is 100. the sun is brutal here and there aren't a lot of really shady areas and after the storm a lot less. heat stroke is a very real issue, more so than tents etc. cooling people off is going to be critical.

ps: re the mobile homes--they can't be tied down securely enough. the wind picks them up and tosses them like toys. it's very hard for anything affordable to be able to withstand that.

many localities have outlawed mobile homes, but have grandfathered existing ones.

There people forced to say here like me.

Farmer's almanac has some tips

https://www.almanac.com/content/how-survive-hurricane

Thank you for posting this here! I was missing r/conspiracy spending my time over on r/tropicalweather - We live on the Space Coast and are preparing for the worst and hoping for the best!

Check out /r/preppers they have all sorts of survival stuff and threads geared toward the incoming hurricane

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And that's fine, I'm just pointing out that if one would want to do good, he might do more good in relevant subreddits.

Along with that, post some material directly prepared for hurricane victims , not thousands upon thousands of pages of survival in the desert.

I do think you are doing a good thing, but one must always consider the state the victims are in and the exact needs that they have. The line of thinking they'd do. Would a man who is need come to /r/conspiracy , from all places, to look for help? If he does come to reddit, for one reason or another, does he go on /r/conspiracy and if not, then does a sub of this size has a chance to get to /r/all ?

I appreciate the thought, I just think that another thought to base the first one on would be in order.

No prob buddy...

i think its mostly a cost thing, building in concrete can be pretty expensive.

but building a wooden house 15 times is probably a lot more expensive than one that can survive hurricanes for 15 years.