WOW! Reddit conspiracy really, really hates ANTIFA!

0 2017-08-21 by Wild_man_mick_brown

I thought this was a place to discuss conspiracy.

If I want to grrrr about ANTIFA I can go to Breitbart.

42 comments

1 loserofpasswordzz 2017-08-21

Then post a conspiracy, guy

1 Wild_man_mick_brown 2017-08-21

Fair point

1 Metki 2017-08-21

Well, they act like idiots.

I mean, "peace through violence", thats just silencing opposition.

1 mastigia 2017-08-21

It is an invitation to escalation of force. And I don't think anyone wins there.

1 loserofpasswordzz 2017-08-21

Well, at some point the stronger person will win. But it wouldnt be worth it imo

1 bannanaflame 2017-08-21

MSM maintream pol conspiring to make them look like good guys. Theys bad guys

1 Wild_man_mick_brown 2017-08-21

Not really. Because Breitbart and Fox are mainstream now. I think Breitbart's like the #3 news site after NYTimes and CNN. Fox has been mainstream for a long time now. I consider RW talk radio to be mainstream. Basically there is no unbiased news anymore, you're gonna get someone's agenda with your info full stop. Breitbart's not some renegade pirate radio station. They have an agenda just like CNN, NBC, and all the rest, and you're just repeating someone else's talking point. Think for yourselves.

1 Apotatoinbrooklyn 2017-08-21

Being critical of a violent fringe group on the far left has nothing to do with political leanings.

This is what Chomsky said about Antifa: "'When confrontation shifts to the arena of violence, it's the toughest and most brutal who win – and we know who that is,' said Chomsky, a professor emeritus of linguistics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. 'That's quite apart from the opportunity costs – the loss of the opportunity for education, organizing, and serious and constructive activism.'"

1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-08-21

You don't have to pretend this place is neutral bro.

1 swansong19 2017-08-21

480,000 readers. You figure all those people lean in the same direction?

"People" aren't neutral. This place is made up of many people.

1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-08-21

And most of them lean alt right.

1 swansong19 2017-08-21

Nice subjective interpretation.

Personally I think anyone buying into the left/right paradigm is an idiot….like you and your use of the term "alt-right". Did you make that up or are you parroting something you heard on CNN?

The entire point of all this contrived conflict is the elimination of those truly in the middle of the road leaving nothing but extremists.

1 Apotatoinbrooklyn 2017-08-21

I'm a woman, and not pretending anything. Conspiracy theory should not be politicized, especially by applying it to our polarizing left/right paradigm, the exact thing that conspiracy theory seeks to deconstruct and possibly dismantle. If anything, conspiracy theorists are the heretics of the traditional American politic. It's clowns like Alex Jones and the fear mongering media that have made conspiracy theory a political hotbed.

1 swansong19 2017-08-21

Eloquently stated. +1

1 Wild_man_mick_brown 2017-08-21

Exactly. I could understand a thread or two, but there's like dozens of them, so it's obviously propaganda. They're just barfing back what they read on Breitbart. New flash, Donald Trump is not your friend, y'all. He's friends with the Clintons. They are buddies, pals. He's not going to "lock her up," he never was. ANYONE RUNNING FOR PRES IS COMPROMISED. Sorry, had to hit the caps lock for a second there.

As for Alex Jones, he's a gatekeeper and his job is to bring the conspiracy fringe back into the two-party fold by pushing Trump on them. Ditch Alex Jones, find truly independent media.

1 swansong19 2017-08-21

I could understand a thread or two, but there's like dozens of them, so it's obviously propaganda.

It's not "propaganda". It's the inevitable pushback to the accepted mainstream narrative. When most every mainstream media org is left leaning and is promoting anita as some altruistic fighters of evil you will get people setting the record straight by pointing out the obvious hypocrisy in their means and message.

The MSM's posturing of antifa is the propaganda. You're just too biased to see or admit it.

1 Wild_man_mick_brown 2017-08-21

What you don't understand is that Fox, WSJ, Breitbart, RW talk radio, even Alex Jones are all mainstream media.

That old argument about "liberal bias" made sense in the 1990's, but now it's just stoopid. There's a whole right-wing MSM media ecosystem out there and they're manipulating you just as much as the NYTimes and CNN are manipulating the liberalz.

1 swansong19 2017-08-21

Only one of those you list has a national platform on television. Brietbart doesn't have a channel on my satellite dish. Neither does WSJ or Alex Jones.

None that you mentioned has the reach of NBC, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, CBS…NONE. You can obfuscate all you want and compare Alex Jones to CNN but you only make you look even more biased in doing so.

Is Alex Jones being piped into airports across the US? Please.

1 Wild_man_mick_brown 2017-08-21

Ok, you admit Fox has the reach of the other networks.

I'm sure one of Breitbart's goals is a TV network; if they continue their winning streak they will get one.

WSJ is a newspaper turned web site, the RW equivalent of NYTimes. Print and the web are part of the media.

I'll grant that liberal news dominates TV, but the RW dominates talk radio, hands down.

1 RecoveringGrace 2017-08-21

It isn't obvious to me that the posts are propoganda. There are 500k users here and a lot of folks are genuinely interested in the conspiracy theory that Antifa is a paid group of rabble rousers with the purpose of causing false unrest.

1 Wild_man_mick_brown 2017-08-21

I'm actually sympathetic to this position, but the hyper-focus on ANTIFA over the bigger picture is making y'all sound like a bunch of tools.

1 RecoveringGrace 2017-08-21

Oh no!! Say it isn't so!!

1 Wild_man_mick_brown 2017-08-21

For realz

1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-08-21

That's what it should be. But Alex Jones is a huge trumo supporter and so are all of his followers. And a most conspiracy theorists are trump supporters.

1 Wild_man_mick_brown 2017-08-21

That's exactly the problem. The conspiracy community has been herded back into the two-party system.

1 Mooseisabitfat 2017-08-21

I just want to know what the conspiracy is. I just keep seeing memes.

1 Darkside_blues 2017-08-21

This is the whole point. Violent fringe takes away any legitimate position that side may bring to the table. Contest with Ideas not bricks. Government has more powerful means of combat, no one wins if they step in and declare free-speech as dangerous or unconstitutional.

1 Brodusgus 2017-08-21

Who likes communism? Honestly

1 mastigia 2017-08-21

Communists? The ones that don't live under it that is.

1 Zybbo 2017-08-21

This pretty much. Just ask Poland.

1 oneinfinitecreator 2017-08-21

if you want to go pat people on the back for being assholes, then go to the antifa sub.

believe it or not - most people aren't into destroying other people's shit or getting violent at them for answering a question wrong. Sorry for having some common sense.

1 DonnaGail 2017-08-21

I agree with you.

1 Sluts_Love_Me 2017-08-21

Antifa is a cancer in need of eradication, it's only natural that they're hated.

1 mastigia 2017-08-21

What is fucked up though is eradicating them is just becoming them. I don't pretend to know the way outta this one, but just slaughtering a bunch of mixed up kids probably aint the way.

1 loserofpasswordzz 2017-08-21

Well said

We would be antiantifa

1 Sluts_Love_Me 2017-08-21

I go by a checklist in order to gauge effectiveness:

  1. Would eradicating admitted communists solve that particular problem?

Yes.

  1. Would it deter future retards from becoming just like antifa?

I believe so.

It's not the first solution by any means, but it's clear they aren't intelligent enough to see how foolish they are. I'm open to other options, but at this point, I don't believe any other options exist.

1 redditeditard 2017-08-21

They just removed my comment and blocked me on Facebook for pointing out that they don't understand history or themselves. On a post about oppression of dissenting opinions...

1 DonnaGail 2017-08-21

Sad, isn't it? I left Facebook last year. I am tired of being censored/banned for just speaking my opinion.

1 htok54yk 2017-08-21

AntiFa are a CIA proxy army designed to bring on the American Spring just as they have all over the world.

1 DonnaGail 2017-08-21

I'm glad everyone here hates ANTIFA. They are violent thugs. What is there to like about them?

1 theantidilluvian 2017-08-21

ANTIFA is commie scum, of course real Americans hate them.

1 TheGreatOni19 2017-08-21

For some reason, many in /r/conspiracy seem to think that nazis, the kkk and antifa are all morally equivalent. I do t see why.

An admitted bigoted and racist group is not morally equivalent to a group that hates and violently opposes racism and bigotry.

It doesn't matter that both sides are violent, I'm speaking purely of ideology. Racism and bigotry is not the same as opposing racism and bigotry. And trying to defend a group of nazis and KKK over antifa or any other group just let's normal American k ow you are brainwashed by the false left/right divide.

Tldr: it's ironic that so many supposed free thinkers are brainwashed by partisan politics.

1 swansong19 2017-08-21

480,000 readers. You figure all those people lean in the same direction?

"People" aren't neutral. This place is made up of many people.

1 Apotatoinbrooklyn 2017-08-21

I'm a woman, and not pretending anything. Conspiracy theory should not be politicized, especially by applying it to our polarizing left/right paradigm, the exact thing that conspiracy theory seeks to deconstruct and possibly dismantle. If anything, conspiracy theorists are the heretics of the traditional American politic. It's clowns like Alex Jones and the fear mongering media that have made conspiracy theory a political hotbed.

1 mastigia 2017-08-21

It is an invitation to escalation of force. And I don't think anyone wins there.