Keep your eyes open, Vegas.
680 2017-08-17 by Fuckaduckfuckaduck
It's obvious to most that a race war is being pushed. The McGregor/Mayweather fight could be used as a catalyst for such. Mayweather has already planted seeds by calling McGregor racist (even though Floyd referred to Pacquiao as a little yellow monkey).
Today an ad was found on Craigslist looking for crisis actors in Vegas. It's been up for two weeks. A friend called, and the dates these "actors" are needed is Aug 25th - Aug 27th. Awfully coincidental, eh?
Be careful ya'll, remember to let your love and light shine above all else.
260 comments
1 LightBringerFlex 2017-08-17
Holy shit. Good catch. Let's see what happens. We might be able to catch them red-handed.
1 Ghostbustaj 2017-08-17
I'm gonna email that article on my lunch break to see what type of response I get.
1 The_Pale_Blue_Dot 2017-08-17
Keep us updated
1 Ghostbustaj 2017-08-17
I will. Email sent.
1 The-Juggernaut 2017-08-17
replying for updates.
1 Ghostbustaj 2017-08-17
I emailed it. Nothing yet.
1 The-Juggernaut 2017-08-17
I put it on Twitter. If you have an account do the same. Hashtag Vegas, each fighter individually, and both
1 VadersDawg 2017-08-17
Even if you do, nobody will believe you. You want to post this on any mainstream reddit sub and see how downvoted you will be. If the fringe elements know about the plans, it wont matter when the masses know.
1 LightBringerFlex 2017-08-17
Ghandi once said the best way to make progress is "little by little". Patience and persistence.
1 VadersDawg 2017-08-17
And still here we are. Internet up in arms over narratives that can fall apart in less than 15mins of scrutiny.
1 LightBringerFlex 2017-08-17
I wouldn't be so pessimistic. We have made an insane amount of progress since 9-2016. We are still making massive amounts of progress. The amount of people who are finally awake is staggering compared to what it was in 2015.
Honestly, if this trajectory continues, we might see a massive breakdown of the cabal by end of year. They are like a dam with holes in it. It is going to break at any moment.
1 VadersDawg 2017-08-17
Have you been on twitter? Facebook-the largest social media site? Instagram?
If you would have told me things were going up the day before the google memo i would have agreed, not anymore.
1 LightBringerFlex 2017-08-17
Ya but don't you know good always wins in the end? The only way good doesn't win is when it does nothing.
1 facereplacer3 2017-08-17
Interesting.
1 Step2TheJep 2017-08-17
Indeed. I have screencapped this and look forward to seeing what goes down...
1 Tecumsehs_Revenge 2017-08-17
Where a good amount of the crowd, will actually have had some formal training and or street experience in actual fighting.
Does seem like a good event to keep an eye on. Having been to many major fights in Vegas, they sure do pump the crowds up. Gang affiliation is pretty big as well. Usually spills out to afterparties at various venues.
1 yeezy_2020 2017-08-17
ad was posted 14 days ago
1 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2017-08-17
I made the correction.
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-08-17
Don't leave out Scottsdale, AZ (basically Phoenix.)
1 tanhairwig 2017-08-17
You say your friend called but there is no number listed. What number can I call to confirm this?
1 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2017-08-17
Just got to work, but I messaged him to ask. Will let you know when he hits me back.
1 tanhairwig 2017-08-17
Thanks! I would appreciate it.
1 jjdjdbdvvd 2017-08-17
crowdsondemand.com
In the ad
1 tatadoo 2017-08-17
(877)323-9244 is the "contact us" number for that website
1 FelixTheRat11 2017-08-17
I smell bullshit.
1 GoodVSHero 2017-08-17
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6ubn6p/comment/dlrp2t7?st=J6GZDO63&sh=810d00df
its in the ad www.crowdsondemand.com
theyve been mentioned several times.
I smell evil.
1 tellthebandtogohome 2017-08-17
Bots down vote everything. Toughen up, glass Joe.
1 wokeasfcuk 2017-08-17
Crowds on demand is legit. Registered with SOS, have wikipedia page. They have been involved in political trickery before (see wikipedia). That being said, it's all likely nothing.
1 037_Engineering 2017-08-17
775 877 1836
1 GuardOfInsanity 2017-08-17
Let us know if the date is correct!
1 WestCoastHippy 2017-08-17
CL has the phone number hidden in their ads. You have to click a button in the ad to make the number show up. A screenshot wouldn't be able to show that.
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1 lurchpop 2017-08-17
Where does it say the dates?
1 ProfessorPihkal 2017-08-17
It doesn't.
1 samout 2017-08-17
Didn't you read the OP? They got the date by calling in.
1 Guerrilla_Time 2017-08-17
Actually it did... Well not sure what happened.
First time I opened the page it had a different layout. Had dates and a QR code to scan. Then I saw this comment and went to look again cause I swear I saw some dates. Now there aren't any dates and no QR code. Obviously they didn't just update the posting in these few minutes. Page says last updated 11 days ago.
Anyone happen to see the page like I did? I haven't look at craigslist for months so I know it's not from something else I happened to look at recently.
1 coozu 2017-08-17
Woooow! Juicy
1 InfectedBananas 2017-08-17
How did your friend call if no phone number is given?
1 kit8642 2017-08-17
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowds_on_Demand
1 CANT_TRUST_PUTIN 2017-08-17
The firm sells services that allow clients to simulate a celebrity lifestyle. Its “Celebrity Shopping Experience” is a trip through town in a luxury car, with cheering fans and paparazzi at every stop. The service was the subject of a “Good Morning America” piece in which a correspondent pretended to be a king while he went through a shopping mall with a paid entourage.[4]
The company also carries out publicity stunts for companies and public relations firms using actors.[5]
Just before the November 2012 election, company founder Swart said that the company was considering a request by a candidate for a staged political protest.[2]
A pretty far cry from a race riot.
1 kit8642 2017-08-17
At least you realize it's a real company.
1 adamdesautel 2017-08-17
That just proves they're part of the conspiracy /s
1 tomcatHoly 2017-08-17
Considering. Maybe he rejects it. Maybe he doesn't. It's still a slippery slope at that point, and it's a far cry itself from Jean Ralphio level wasteful hijinks..
An unexpected phone call from blocked number, an unknown voice reveals chillingly in-depth secrets about Swart. Describes his wife's outfit that day and her current that-minute activity. Swart realizes "Oh fuck.. I'm in too deep" shortly after he agrees to meet with/comply with whomever or whatever he has been instructed.
Look, granted, I've read a lot of thriller fiction, but I refuse to believe that only authors and movie/TV writers can think up these convoluted back door dealings and schemes, but that the parties who would actually have the means and stand to benefit to do this kind of shit for their own agenda in real life somehow can't.
1 amaleigh13 2017-08-17
Here's a reddit post where the same address is that of a copyright troll
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1 LightBap 2017-08-17
Try harder.
1 Landiesaw 2017-08-17
It would be strange for all these false flags to hinge on the discretion of a bunch of people off Craigslist paid 20 bucks an hour.
1 lfme 2017-08-17
hey man. $20 is $20
1 bgny 2017-08-17
Said the person with no integrity.
1 rickyshavinalaff 2017-08-17
youre saying theres a job somewhere in the u.s. that requires integrity? seems like they would be quite hard pressed to fill their roster...where should i sign up?
1 lfme 2017-08-17
its actually a common joke on internet
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/im-not-gay-but-20-is-20.jpg
1 EvanSuperfly 2017-08-17
It's not gay if you're getting paid ;)
1 zefy_zef 2017-08-17
You suckin?
1 OopsAllSpells 2017-08-17
I expect to see one of these ads before any major event anywhere from here on out. 4chan LARPers will make then because it is ridiculously easy to and places like here where scrutiny should be paramount are compromised and will just eat up every one, forgetting them until one event has an incident than shrieking about "false flag!"
It's sad how much critical thinking is despised on this sub, hell most people aren't even questioning this post when it has such obvious flaws like the claim of calling the ad when no phone number is given.
1 Landiesaw 2017-08-17
Part of the problem is that being a 'conspiracy theorist' isn't just something people do, it's a hobby, it's part of their identity and it defines them. Deciding something isn't a conspiracy is not fun, it's boring and it's lame and it's what all the sheeple do. That's why everything is a false flag, and anything the MSM says is automatically a lie.
It's also partly the fear of being a fool. Much better to not believe anything you're told and assume it's all a ploy, then believe it all and find out it was a ploy later.
1 WinstonChurchill74 2017-08-17
But why not assume that the creation of the conspiracy theory is a ploy? Someone could be regularly planting ads around the country to use as evidence of a conspiracy.
1 Maxwyfe 2017-08-17
The ad also conspicuously mentions "peaceful protest" more than once. It's almost too obvious.
1 Touchmethere9 2017-08-17
This is what gets me... if this was actually happening they wouldn't be recruiting randoms through a public Craigslist ad. If I was a billionaire it wouldn't be hard to recruit some full-time crisis actors that aren't going to spill the beans and wouldn't require me giving away my plan by posting on Craigslist.
1 Maxwyfe 2017-08-17
I think they might. I just don't know that they'd be so obvious about it. I guess we'll see next week in Vegas. Anyone taking odds?
1 TXROADWARRIOR 2017-08-17
we're talking the most powerful pedos on the planet for generations. they have all the alphabet agencies abilities. they can vet any plant quite easily. i imagine.. only the truly decrepit make it in for first conditioning
1 DataPhreak 2017-08-17
These ads are just for bodies. They're the camoflage for the full time actors.
1 kingofthemonsters 2017-08-17
Also people discount the power of a nondisclosure agreement and an expensive legal team.
1 WinstonChurchill74 2017-08-17
Because that keeps movies from being leaked, or government information from being leaked?
For crisis actors to be real, you need complete silence from hundreds of individuals.... hired for maybe 80 dollars on craigslist.
1 kingofthemonsters 2017-08-17
Makes it easier to disappear someone with a small footprint
1 WinstonChurchill74 2017-08-17
So there is a hitman specializing in crisis actors? This is way to complicated to be real.
1 kingofthemonsters 2017-08-17
Hey it's all crazy around here. Not sure in the mix of aliens, the Clinton death count, zero point energy, big foot, the Philadelphia experiments, how this is is totally far fetched. We're in conspiracy right?
1 WinstonChurchill74 2017-08-17
Because logically it is way more out of bounds than a simple alternative.
1 kingofthemonsters 2017-08-17
No shit logically. But I got my conspiracy hat on.
1 PedantPantry 2017-08-17
All a NDA can do is allow an entity to easily sue for damages. Anyone that is looking for short term work on craigslist is likely gonna be judgement proof because they have little to no assets.
A NDA and an expensive legal team have no power over a person with no assets.
1 albinoblack 2017-08-17
You are on the right track. There will be the high paid ones not from Craigslist. Those that talk to the news reporters. Those that instigate the violence. The Craigslist ones are just to increase the numbers to make context for the very few actual troublemakers.
1 LightBap 2017-08-17
Exactly.
1 WestCoastHippy 2017-08-17
Thank you. The lack of tactical awareness in this thread, especially those thinking these ads are for the actual agents.
$25/hr. Please throw punches, get hit in face, take chemicals to the face, experience preferred.
That is what dolts are jumping to.
$25/hr. We don't care what you do as long as you kinda look like our actual agents and, ideally, you're emotionally invested in this but whatever.
That is what I read.
1 versusgorilla 2017-08-17
That's what I don't get. How long are they hired for? Six hours for one day of crisis acting? So that's like $120?
That's not a lot of money, and you're expected to do what for it? Keep your mouth shut forever about this fake terror attack you were a part of?
And I'd You're an organization that has seemingly unlimited money and power, why pay people to act? Why not just hire one maniac to shoot a bunch of people? Or convince some radicalized lunatic to drive his car through a crowd?
I don't understand the needlessly complicated methods of creating these things when the alternative is to just put the means in the hands of the capable.
1 Landiesaw 2017-08-17
Go beyond that even. How are they paid? Is it cash under the table? How do you prove you were there? Are there taxes deducted, T4s (or whatever the American equivalent is), record of employment?
As you said, none of that would be easier than actually arming a maniac.
1 jjdjdbdvvd 2017-08-17
That's the thing about sandy hook.
If the govt really was behind it they wouldn't hire crisis actors and pay families to pretend there kids were dead.
Its called black ops
they would just use the FBI to convince some radical to shoot up a school. Make it completely legit.
1 versusgorilla 2017-08-17
That's the thing, we've seen the CIA do shit like that. That's how they overthrow foreign nation's leaders. Just arm the nutjobs and have a crazy do the work for you.
Even easier in the US sincerely all you need to do then is jail the guy OR secretly assassinate him. But nah, let's hire time off people and hope they stay silent forever.
1 windeeann 2017-08-17
The reason they don't just hire one lunatic to get the job done is because that would be a one time thing. Instead they're laying a foundation of riots, one building on top of the other, each one becoming more frenzied, more explosive each time, until finally it becomes too big for local government to contain and suddenly swat teams are everywhere walking the streets, every city has a curfew and now we're on lockdown. That's the end game.
1 versusgorilla 2017-08-17
That doesn't explain why they need to hire thousands of actors and fake an event instead of just funding extremeists and lunatics to commit these acts.
1 windeeann 2017-08-17
One extremist act of violence wouldn't create the racial divide they're trying to achieve.
1 versusgorilla 2017-08-17
Yeah, so you fund both sides that already exist. Give them money to recruit and they'll do it for you.
You see hiring thousands of actors and hoping they all stay silent as easier than just giving these existing groups the means???
I honestly feel like this is the psyop. People who think throwing the world's biggest Shakespeare in the Park dozens of times is EASIER than just giving lunatics access to weapons and recruitment.
1 windeeann 2017-08-17
I see your point, and maybe you're right. But what would be the purpose behind it, if it were the psyop?
Also, maybe they don't care if the actors stay silent. Who would carry the interview of a paid agitator? MSM? Likely not. Reddit? We just talk to each other mostly. Alex Jones? Everybody laughs at him. But sure, the word would get out eventually, so if we don't find someone soon who can prove they were on the payroll, I'll be more inclined to your way of thinking.
I applied to crowds on demand, I'll let you know if I hear from them.
1 versusgorilla 2017-08-17
Who would carry the interview? Here. This community. It'd be proof of exactly what they're proposing.
And still silence. I believe, because it's not what's happening. This wouldn't be like the Manhattan Project, where they separate people to hide the true events. These would be people who trained for a specific scene. They'd need context for their actions, they'd see themselves on the news, they'd have to sleep at night.
It, as a theory, makes no goddamn sense. "Crisis Actors" is a truly insane concept.
1 windeeann 2017-08-17
In light of today's "Hey Soros, where's our money" people, your theory is starting to make more sense to me.
1 WestCoastHippy 2017-08-17
They hire bodies to provide the crowd for the real agents to do their work. The CL ads aren't looking for people to pull off terrorist acts, those folks are already in place.
1 versusgorilla 2017-08-17
Nope. The theory about Sandy Hook is that the people in the crowd we're crisis actors hired to play heartbroken parents.
And that means that for Charlottesville, they'd have to have hired enough to form a parade, one big enough to crash a car into.
Have you ever done any hiring? Casting? How do you hire hundreds of people pile this in total secrecy? And how do you maintain total secrecy and silence? Pay them off? Imagine the cost. Threaten them? How much research and muscle and money would that cost?
1 WestCoastHippy 2017-08-17
Sandy Hook and Charlottesville are two different animals. I don't think we can equate the two for the topic of crisis actors.
Crisis Actors and protests:
Main body: local, random citizens moved to protest. Silent and vast majority. Hired body (protest crisis actors): not local, usually given some accessory; sigh, flag, costuming. usually given a vague script and assigned a group. Local agents: veteran protesters who lead groups of crisis actors and coalesce the main body.
Hired agents: not actually hired, per se, but pro and not necessarily local. Leads the violent local agents (generally unpaid, in it for the power rush) and media contact.
The overlap between Sandy Hook and Charlottesville is likely at the hired agent level.
Hiring yes (exhausting, I follow you). Casting no. The rest of the questions rest on assumptions I don't follow.
1 kingPLoPz 2017-08-17
Careful with that logical thought process on this sub. Literal everything believed here would fall apart under such scrutiny.
1 LightBap 2017-08-17
Spoken like a true sheep 🐑
1 kingPLoPz 2017-08-17
Yes. The capacity for abstract thought and being able to apply simple logic to situations are two characteristics mostly found in sheep.
1 CelineHagbard 2017-08-17
Removed. Rule 10.
1 FloridaMom13 2017-08-17
Not really, especially if the company is aggressive in their non-disclosure and emphasis legal action against the "workers". Your average (low paid) person would not be willing to take the risk.
1 innerpeice 2017-08-17
There was an ad for "demonstrators" before the Charlotte riots. The open society foundation took it down when it went viral after the riots.
1 wikipedialyte 2017-08-17
There were no riots in Charlotte, dummy.
1 innerpeice 2017-08-17
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article111056262.html
1 DstopianParadise 2017-08-17
That article is dated October 28, 2016
1 innerpeice 2017-08-17
No shit. There were riots in 2016, paid for by Soros. Wow short memory.
1 DstopianParadise 2017-08-17
Ah okay. I'm not american and wasn't following the US elections back then.
1 LightBap 2017-08-17
You're memory can't really be that short.
1 bombsaway1979 2017-08-17
Charlottesville.....has charlotte in the name, but different place.
1 prolix 2017-08-17
Strange indeed. Any credible conspirator wouldn't plant evidence for the world to find so blatantly unless they wanted it found. And people here are all eating it up so nicely.
1 LurkPro3000 2017-08-17
It's called a non-disclosure contract. Also, if these are real, I would be they would carefully vet their actors thru social media to ensure smooth complicity for their acing positions.
1 bannana 2017-08-17
Can someone please sign up and get hired for one of these? And we can put to rest the speculation already. I can take out an ad on CL right now for whatever I want, I don't have to follow up with it or talk to anyone I can just post the ad. We need info from someone that was actually hired for one of these.
1 tanhairwig 2017-08-17
Agreed. See my post above asking for the phone number. Hoping OP delivers with it. I am a little confused with how his friend called them since they don't list a number in the ad. But maybe he reached out through the ad to get the number? Will just have to wait to hear back from OP.
1 jjdjdbdvvd 2017-08-17
http://projectveritas.com/contact/
1 rickyshavinalaff 2017-08-17
so you dont like jimmy...you could just say that instead of spreading disinfo "as a joke"
1 CANT_TRUST_PUTIN 2017-08-17
That's how you know it's bullshit, friendo.
1 woodmoon 2017-08-17
There are like millions of ads that don't post phone numbers. People still contact them.
1 frontbuttz 2017-08-17
And can someone sneak in a GoPro or some other type of camera?Let's try and be ahead of the game on this one.Who knows?This could expose false flags/crisis actors in a big way.
1 lokgnarpilgore 2017-08-17
Its on their websites crowdsondemand.com
1 depleteduraniumftw 2017-08-17
The employment contract almost certainly has an ass and mouth clause. Unlikely anyone would disclose anything even if they did get the job.
1 bannana 2017-08-17
true, but could we at least have someone who spoke to or was interviewed by the originators of the ad?
1 willworkfordroogs 2017-08-17
And how would you verify that?
1 bannana 2017-08-17
though not a verification if we don't have forensics on it but and email chain between the two, phone records, text mess. would be somewhat better than a CL ad I could post right now.
1 willworkfordroogs 2017-08-17
And give me another hour or so to fake-up some email headers.
1 versusgorilla 2017-08-17
Are you telling me that a conspiracy theorist couldn't figure out a way to successfully leak this information?
1 Touchmethere9 2017-08-17
Come on... you think it wouldn't be very easy to leak such information? We get classified leaks coming from the fucking US government but somehow this would be too difficult?
1 Step2TheJep 2017-08-17
'Leaks' from the top levels of government. Sure thing.
1 Touchmethere9 2017-08-17
Denying reality doesn't change it.
1 Moelah 2017-08-17
He's suggesting that they aren't leaks. ...I agree with him
1 TheGoodTheBadTheRekt 2017-08-17
You can buy NSA/FBI hack tools, leaked documents, access to databases, etc. on the darknet. Like you said, nothing is too hard to obtain for people who have the will.
1 PM_MEMONEYYY 2017-08-17
Fuck that nobody tells me how to run my ass and mouth.
1 McDuffBSmith 2017-08-17
I'm going to sign up for it. I won't be able to go because I live 3000 miles away in Canada, but I'll report back with what they say and screenshots of the emails.
1 BushidoBrowne 2017-08-17
Commenting for future reference!
1 MichelleObamasPenis 2017-08-17
Every comment and top-level post has the word 'save' underneath it in order to do just that.
1 BushidoBrowne 2017-08-17
Oh shit!
1 KalashnikovAK-47 2017-08-17
Commenting for future reference!
1 MichelleObamasPenis 2017-08-17
1 GeorgeCostanaza 2017-08-17
Mods
1 Gamernix 2017-08-17
Samesies
1 windeeann 2017-08-17
Good idea, I did it too. I have no acting experience so I don't know if they'll contact me but I gave it a go. It occurs to me now that I applied like it was a for real job. I should have lied about acting experience. dumb.
1 LoganLinthicum 2017-08-17
So make a new email account and give it another go.
1 windeeann 2017-08-17
I laid it on real thick about my actual experience. If they don't respond by next week, I'll try your idea.
1 LoganLinthicum 2017-08-17
sorry, I don't know that post of mine came from such a bossy place. :)
1 UchihaDivergent 2017-08-17
Good luck on your mission
1 BushidoBrowne 2017-08-17
Well, did ya?
1 McDuffBSmith 2017-08-17
Oh shit, totally forgot to update. Yes I did, and I got nothing back.
Here is a screenshot of what I sent them.
I never heard anything back from them.
1 ganooosh 2017-08-17
How has nobody from this sub done that yet?
1 Chuck_Rogers 2017-08-17
Same reason nobody tried to sign up for CTR.
It's not what they say it is
1 037_Engineering 2017-08-17
But CTR was.
1 Chuck_Rogers 2017-08-17
I very much doubt there were paid users here.
Haven't seen any real convincing evidence tbh, yet the modlogs here explicitly state "CTR" as a reason for banning someone.
You think nobody from CTRs Reddit division would do an AMA or leak something?
1 037_Engineering 2017-08-17
Unless they believe the cause or are literally too poor to take the time.
1 ChelseaClintonsTeeth 2017-08-17
Yea bro there's definitely no astroturfing on reddit nothing to see here thanks for correcting the record.
1 Chuck_Rogers 2017-08-17
I never did I don't think astroturfing exists, I just don't believe vCTR was paying posters
1 loserofpasswordzz 2017-08-17
Media matters? Shareblue?
Or just Cambridge analytica and Russians?
1 Chuck_Rogers 2017-08-17
Yeah I haven't seen any evidence that Media Matters/SB/CTR are paying people to post, and the same goes for CA.
1 LightBap 2017-08-17
Have you no shame?
1 tatadoo 2017-08-17
http://www.thedailybeast.com/hillary-pac-spends-dollar1-million-to-correct-commenters-on-reddit-and-facebook
1 OptimalDelusion 2017-08-17
He's right. As far as I know it was volunteer work, most didn't get paid.
1 Censoredreddit2k16- 2017-08-17
Subscribe to redditcensors if you are that skeptical. That should clear up that closed mind.
1 Chuck_Rogers 2017-08-17
Not closed minded. Willnthere be anything there showing CTR paying people to post?
Can you answer that?
1 rigorousintuition 2017-08-17
There are one hundred percent paid posters here.
90% of this website is an advertisement - if you choose to remain wilfully ignorant then that is your choice.
Take a look at..
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https://boostupvotes.com
https://upvotes.club/
https://buysocialmediamarketing.com
https://www.buyrealmarketing.com/
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1 Tamerlane-1 2017-08-17
Looked through r/redditcensors, which is just another right-wing conspiracy sub. No evidence of shilling seen.
1 wikipedialyte 2017-08-17
Fucking duh. These paranoiac types are priceless.
1 LoganLinthicum 2017-08-17
I just don't understand how this is evidence for shilling in your mind. Some people genuinely enjoy debate and think it is a productive use of their time. I pretty much only read and comment on a few subs; the rest are either gigantic eco-chambers or don't have enough activity.
I have zero doubt whatsoever that vast sums of money are spent to influence public opinion on the net in general and reddit in specific, both by private entities and governments, including our own(U.S. bias itt). At the same time, so many shill accusations that I see are the product of being completely incapable of conceiving that someone could disagree with a given position. This is a toxic mindset, the ultimate expression of divide and conquer. Complete balkanization of believe, to the degree of denying the humanity of anyone who does not share your world view.
This is the exact opposite of what we need right now. We need to work as hard as we possibly can to understand those who disagree with us. When you understand where someone is coming from, so many of the imagined differences between you evaporate. What is left is a fertile field in which productive discourse and mutual growth can be accomplished.
As a final aside, while shills are certainly used, this whole propaganda system is designed to get real people to internalize ideology, which results in them defending those ideas as if they were their own self. Think Agents taking over people in the Matrix. You really just can't distinguish shilling from useful idiots(I apologize for the derogatory term, it runs counter of the message I'm trying to get across here, but it is a useful term to know for googling and understanding how this all works). For this reason, I think it is so much worthwhile to try and engage with suspected shills from a position of understanding, brotherhood, and optimism. I always try to plant seeds, there might be another person behind the account and you never know when conditions will be just right for something beautiful to flower. Additionally, on a public forum like this the positivity of your exchange can inspire others.
Light begets light and darkness begets darkness. You can't dispel darkness with more darkness, it must be through the light of love and understanding.
1 CelineHagbard 2017-08-17
Removed. Rule 10.
1 TheWiredWorld 2017-08-17
That is a known reputation management agent - reply at your own caution. Don't waste your time.
1 037_Engineering 2017-08-17
You mean Chuck up there right?
1 TheWiredWorld 2017-08-17
Yes
1 Droppin_Deuces 2017-08-17
The link goes to a legitimate website
[ www.crowdsondemand.com](Crowds on Demand)
1 Senor_Droolcup 2017-08-17
"These services are available across the country in every major U.S city, every major U.S metro area and even most smaller cities as well."
This grammar makes me think this is a hoax.
1 Derglas 2017-08-17
Legitimate as in it exists. I wouldn't call it a professional or business quality job.
1 Everythings 2017-08-17
It actually costs money to place a hiring ad in larger areas.
1 foldaway_throwaway 2017-08-17
I'm sure you would without a doubt have to sign a NDA if it is legitimate.
1 JedYorks 2017-08-17
subversive, someone do this
1 Dont_stop 2017-08-17
How is political activist, prior experience for acting work? hmmm?
1 ProfessorPihkal 2017-08-17
It is experience for being part of a large crowd.
1 samout 2017-08-17
But why was "political activist" the only thing listed that isn't essentially faking something? Even Brand Ambassador just means a Street Marketer, aka a Real-life Shill. So they're looking for an actor with experience it Performance Acting, Street Shilling and... Political Activism? One is not like the others, or is it?
1 Stewie19 2017-08-17
I guess the actor/performer part? Regardless, all of those things are good experience for manipulating people/emotions/actions.
1 sausagesthecat 2017-08-17
Good find. Thanks for posting.
1 Balrogz14 2017-08-17
Wouldn't there be someone breaking after doing this work? I imagine they need a good sized crowd and I imagine not EVERYONE would stay silent as to what occurred and why they were there?
1 Touchmethere9 2017-08-17
Yeah are we suppose to believe dozens of people being paid $20 an hour are ALL going to keep quiet after being a part of a false flag terror attack? I mean you'd have to be more gullible than the idiots who watch CNN / FOX all day.
1 037_Engineering 2017-08-17
They wouldn't even know it was FF. They would just be there with a bunch of other people knowing they are only there to fill it up or take pictures per the contract.
1 Sumner67 2017-08-17
get a bunch of people together for a protest where they're all amped up but peaceful?
Toss in a few instigators into the crowd who's job and intention is to rile up the crowd from the inside and start violence.
It's like herding sheep at that point. Once you get a few of those "peaceful" innocents riled up and joining in with the true instigators you now have a flash riot with a bunch of people who were played and are now just cannon fodder ready to be sacrificed.
1 LightBap 2017-08-17
What's gullible is believing the shill's strawman argument; that the paid crowds are part of the false flag attacks. They are there to exacerbate the aftermath of false flag attacks, or give the illusion that more people care about protesting something that the pedophiles care about than actually do.
1 theycallmedukey 2017-08-17
Turn on your love light let it shine on me Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine! GD (~};)
1 How1ntriguing 2017-08-17
good find
1 airzoom23 2017-08-17
Terrific work OP.
1 Hot_Sauce_Abuela 2017-08-17
Vegas on fight night is "Big America on Steroids." Money, Testosterone, Laughter, Pussy, Consumerism, Aggression, Partying, Coke, Capitalism, Sex, Sin, Fun, etc, etc. If Antifa tries to fuck with people's Vegas experience, people are gonna be like, "Nah, bitch!" And blacks and whites and rich and poor and gays and straights will join together in unity and kick some bitchy little Antifa ass like its their damn job!
1 CDM209 2017-08-17
I live in Vegas and everyone is going for Connor lmao
1 worktheshoot 2017-08-17
its crazy because people don't like Mayweather because of his ACTIONS outside the ring(domestic violence) but many people are claiming its racism.
1 rocktogether 2017-08-17
Very anti racist person here. I am pulling for McGregor. Mayweather is a bad person.
1 rickyshavinalaff 2017-08-17
very anti racist eh?? from personal experience or for the sick rayban & anorexia hookups?
1 rocktogether 2017-08-17
What the heck does that even mean?
1 rickyshavinalaff 2017-08-17
have you been subject to racism, or do you like banging promiscuous young activists wearing cat eye glasses, and vomiting all their food to stay 75 lbs?
1 CDM209 2017-08-17
Most people who live here have met him or at least have seen him in person and they all know he's a dick
1 TheHighBlatman 2017-08-17
Noooo way. I'm not a boxing man. Or a UFC man. But it is my understanding they are competing in a sport where only one of them is a professional.
1 lfme 2017-08-17
someone seriously needs to sign up and report back to us.
1 SuperPoop 2017-08-17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3Hqkqxd3QE
Trump is referring to the Veritas videos where they have people on camera discussing bird dogging and instigating fights. How short is our attention span that we forget this stuff so quickly?
1 feedmesources 2017-08-17
Doesn't help that the Trump Foundation donated $10k to Project Veritas. Looks like paid propaganda at that point.
1 kingofthemonsters 2017-08-17
You got downvoted and didn't provide a source. [ http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-foundation-paid-activist-filmmaker-james-o-keefe-n670381](Here's one)
1 feedmesources 2017-08-17
Thanks, I didn't realize that wasn't common knowledge.
1 kingofthemonsters 2017-08-17
You know how folks can be, wanting proof and stuff.
1 SuperPoop 2017-08-17
https://youtu.be/5IuJGHuIkzY?t=622
1 djbiv 2017-08-17
these people are deranged.
1 SuperPoop 2017-08-17
I would say they know not what they do, but they know exactly what they're doing and it's disturbing.
1 djbiv 2017-08-17
they are succeeding in dividing the country. and it's very sad.
1 g3374r2d2 2017-08-17
Stop spreading light. Light is code for Lucifer.
Useful idiots everywhere that stop short of research.
1 woodmoon 2017-08-17
Then how does one describe the opposite of darkness or shadow?
1 g3374r2d2 2017-08-17
Illusion. Waves. Energy. Electricity. Not divinity.
1 woodmoon 2017-08-17
Illusion can be dark. Waves can be dark. Energy can be dark. You're asking people to axe this word from our vocabularies, without offering an effective synonym, all because some people hijacked the word to use as a code word for something else.
1 g3374r2d2 2017-08-17
Dark waves? Dark matter?
There is a vacuum and from the singularity forward energy.
Dark energy is a placeholder.
1 woodmoon 2017-08-17
Well-said. But light creates and sustains life. I want to exist where life exists.
1 g3374r2d2 2017-08-17
Sustains life in this realm, yes. If you like this realm forever then sweet.
1 magnora7 2017-08-17
They're pushing race war, gender war, literally any type of conflict.
They want people divided and fearful.
1 LV_Cinnabear 2017-08-17
Any riots on the street would be far more interesting than this shit show of a fight.
1 shaggymule 2017-08-17
Number is available on their website by the look of things. 877 323 9244
1 worktheshoot 2017-08-17
Yes this has been on my mind for a while. Big mma and boxing fan and no doubt the race issue is being pushed. Mostly by Mayweather.
He recently stated he felt Mcgregor said some racist remarks Mcgregor said "dance for me boy!" at a press conference. Conor also remarked about Floyd's gym being like the one in Rocky where it was a circus. He said something about "dancing monkeys" which mayweather thought was racist. Mcgregor has denied that what he said was racist, but now Mayweather claims he's doing this fight for all the black people in America.
Funny little tidbit, the referees name in this fight is Robert Byrd. Obviously not the same guy who was a senator who was in the KKK but I just find it odd they pick someone with that name. Especially when the fight has racial tension in it.
1 thegeraldo 2017-08-17
Fucking Christ.... lol
1 hughcullen 2017-08-17
Mayweather is a fucking cunt for playing the race card, especially given the public mood at present, I hope he gets the shit knocked out of him.
1 bombsaway1979 2017-08-17
And that's exactly what he wants....he makes more money when people reaaaallllly wanna see him get knocked out. It's his shtick: play the bad guy, more people will pay to see if you get knocked out.
1 hughcullen 2017-08-17
Okay, but given the present social climate perhaps he should work a different angle.
1 GeorgeCostanaza 2017-08-17
This is all WWE style rabble rousing. These guys have nothing against eachother, they're being paid tens of millions of dollars to punch eachother in the face.
1 hughcullen 2017-08-17
That's not the point, the point is that Mayweather is trying to incite a racial element into it and insinuate that Mc Gregor (and therefor his supporters) are racist towards black people and that every black person in the world should get behind him when he attempts to beat this racist white man for all the black people in the world. That's irresponsible beyond belief.
1 GeorgeCostanaza 2017-08-17
OH SHIT NO HE DI INT
WE ALL BETTER PONY UP TO WATCH THIS SHIT ON PAPERVIEW. ALL OF RACISM IS ON THIS FIGHT
1 hughcullen 2017-08-17
Yes, this was his intent, and going by the news bulletins which attempt to interview the people who attend these antifa, BLM rallies, there are a lot of unintelligent, vulnerable, easily led people who will be drawn in by his false accusations.
1 sevenonone 2017-08-17
I'm going to play devil's advocate. We're all here because we have questions, right? Feel free to pass this by.
I can't see the ad from here... but let's say it's what you think it is.
They're going fake an attack on the street with probably the most pedestrian traffic in the country, but certainly in the western US. I don't know if you've ever walked the Vegas strip on an ordinary summer night, but it's like the mall at Christmas time. It is the most crowded outdoor place I have ever been except maybe in front of the stage at an outdoor concert. And we're not talking about any August Saturday night, we're talking about the night of the biggest fight of the year (at least).
There will be HUNDREDS of witnesses. You can't just park a truck on the sidewalk and run in some people with fake blood. It WILL be seen, and in this day and age, it will more than likely be filmed. How is that handled?
If they are going to fake a terrorist attack in the above environment, it is going to be pretty hard to keep quiet that it was fake to start with. So they advertise for actors on Craigslist? I don't care if they have them sign NDA's out the wazoo, when it shows up on the news and those people know what is what, somebody is talking.
I have been concerned about attacks in Vegas for a while (real ones), I don't see how you can fake one there unless it's the slowest day of the year and on a far end of the strip.
1 nicernow 2017-08-17
Stay aware and safe out there. It is bad enough you have to be in Las Vegas.
1 forever2700 2017-08-17
a race war is not coming, jesus christ. no one is thinking like that. if anything it would be old white people going down the street trying to kill black people.. a race war is a white mans wet dream, but you're all too out of touch to realize IT WILL NOT HAPPEN ANYMORE. IT'S NOT THE 1960S.
1 Xpacstornasshole 2017-08-17
Blacks kill whites at a much higher rate than the other way around. I don't get where you get the little scenario in your head from, probably too much TV but it'd be the opposite of what you described if anything.
1 treeslooklikelamb 2017-08-17
You think human nature has changed drastically in 50 years?
Read the room dude.
1 break_main 2017-08-17
good find! what a shitty company. I can't believe they are so open about their astroturfing
1 CivilianConsumer 2017-08-17
Yup mark my words if a race war starts up this would be the start
1 Lord__Buckethead 2017-08-17
There are real drills going on all the time where people are presumably needed y'know.
But these ads have also become a tactic to discredit opponents. I've seen it done for at least 3-4 different protests to date, as well as fake ads offering retainers for paid protestors and fake sites like https://www.demandprotest.com .
It's a common tactic now. It's not very clever or convincing. I suspect the ad for Charlotte was one, but the person making it was too stupid to get the city right.
1 Ramy_ 2017-08-17
So Mayweather was also paid $20 for his part in this? Or $20/hr?
1 LightBap 2017-08-17
You really typed that out and pressed enter?
1 LightBap 2017-08-17
You really typed that out and pressed enter?
1 LightBap 2017-08-17
You really typed that out and pressed enter?
1 prolix 2017-08-17
This is disinformation at the next level. Any credible conspirator wouldn't plant evidence for the world to find so blatantly. And you are all eating it up so nicely.. Nicely done r/conspiracy..... stay disinfoed.
1 BeatnikMessiah 2017-08-17
Im pretty sure Maywhethers gonna get fooked up that night.
1 meatballpoking 2017-08-17
Using my myriad of Google voice/Hangouts numbers, I xalled. I received a message about their call volume being too large to take every call and too leave a message. 😆😆😆😆.
I told them Alex Jones will be tweeting about them soon, and this will be on Infowars tomorrow, as well as false flags being wrong. About fifteen messages in ridiculous attempts at different voices and accents.
1 beachexec 2017-08-17
I'll go and see what I can catch on camera.
1 ijustwantanfingname 2017-08-17
This reminds me, did anyone else see the post on reddit (I think maybe /r/libertarian ?) calling for help in Charlotte before the whole Nazi car thing?
1 qualityproduct 2017-08-17
Didn't those two fly on a private jet after a heated weigh in?
1 killerjavi98 2017-08-17
Great find l, good thing it's archived so we can refer back to this when the shot hit's the fan.
1 Shot_thru_the_fart 2017-08-17
Their website looks like a Wix botch job. A company that can afford to pay for what they say they do would have a presentable website, no? A few thousand can get you a decent website and while they appear able to spend thousands regularly, they can't spend more than a couple hundred on a website? Where do they get their money?
1 ILoveJuices 2017-08-17
We've reached a new level in political correctness called "everyone is a racist and sexist unless you are obsessively speaking put against it".
1 I_Kick_Puppies_Hard 2017-08-17
I'll be in Reno those dates. Hope nothing fucky goes down!
1 mrevil_tx 2017-08-17
https://crowdsondemand.com/who-we-are/
Just in case those looking for the domain cant find it, here's the link to the CEO of the company.
1 Shot_thru_the_fart 2017-08-17
I couldn't find anything on him outside of this page. Anyone else have any luck? I'm still sleuthing.
1 kingofthemonsters 2017-08-17
Will we see a repeat of this boxing riot ? If so would it spill out in the streets?
1 ParsingSol 2017-08-17
Great inference /u/Fuckaduckfuckaduck ...
:)
Very well thought out...
1 Czmp 2017-08-17
He is from Ireland he gets the pass on the boy
1 Grarglejobber 2017-08-17
I'm about done with the whole "oh he's a white guy so he's a (some form of monster)" bull shit.
1 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2017-08-17
Likewise. My family came over from Lyon, France in the 20's. I know my family history back a loooooong way. We've never owned slaves. Period.
I'm tired of doing time in society's eyes for something I had fuck all to do with.
1 Grarglejobber 2017-08-17
Man, slaves were like $500,000 in today's money, iirc. With how history is jacked with, I wouldn't be surprised if not many families did. I think most people lived like, you know, homestead style, with a mess of kids to help things along and tip the odds against all that dying.
1 AllTheWayTrump 2017-08-17
Less than 2% of people in America owned slaves, but the media would have you believe every fucking family had a shitload of them without informing you that blacks owned and sold slaves as well.
1 Grarglejobber 2017-08-17
Yup. It's ridiculous.. Something's gotta give soon.
1 selfmindcontrol 2017-08-17
Interesting post and research.
I x-posted over to polkadotgirl's sub r/conspiracyundone if anyone was looking for more commentary on this post:
https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracyundone/comments/6uff4h/keep_your_eyes_open_vegas_xpost_from_front_page/
1 cloudyoutside 2017-08-17
Wow, good find OP! You're a great addition to this sub.
1 fatherjohncrispys 2017-08-17
I live in Vegas. I'll stay woke.
1 Mrexreturns 2017-08-17
And do i need to risk my life being killed by it? Or only innocent people die and the crisis actors don't?
1 oldmoldy 2017-08-17
Maybe I should sign up. I was going to be in Vegas that time anyway.. Maybe that way I won't be in the blast --
You guys --- I'm a victim survivor of these crowds on demand -- The other term everyone says is called "gang-stalking" but that's being made into a psychological mental illness right now -- soo.. did everyone screenshot that craigslist ad? I sure did
You know it won't be an attack that will be on the MSM. It's probably for a TI (targeted individual) as opposed to mass fear tactic -- they do that
1 amgoingtohell 2017-08-17
For those that missed it, similar was recently posted in relation to the Charlottesville attack on 4chan except the ad said Charlotte, NC not Charlottesville, VA. About 4 hours away by car/coach. However people on Twitter claim crowds of protesters were bused into Charlottesville. One user posted this implying it it shows bussed-in Trump supporters but if they are paid protesters that changes things.
For what it is worth Crowds on Demand (CoD) does appear to be a legit company though but that obviously doesn't mean these craiglist ads are. Adam Swart, who worked as a political organizer in Jerry Brown’s election campaign for Governor of California in 2010, is the founder and CEO of CoD.
Not sure if relevant but there is a letter from him on the FCC's site on behalf of the National Association of African American-Owned Media (NAAAOM).
NAAAOM’s mission is "to eliminate racial discrimination and secure the economic inclusion of truly 100% African American owned media through fair contracting and equal treatment practices."
Anyway, we already have proof that DNC operatives are prepared to send paid protesters and agent provocateurs to sabotage rallies and events by inciting violence.
DNC operative Scott Foval says in the video: "When they’re outside the rally, the media will cover it no matter where it happens. They key is initiating the conflict by having leading conversations with people who are naturally psychotic.
"I mean honestly, it is not hard to get some of these assholes to pop off. It’s a matter of showing up, to want to get into the rally, in a Planned Parenthood t-shirt. Or, Trump is a Nazi, you know. You can message to draw them out, and draw them to punch you . "
"If you’re there and you’re protesting and you do these actions, you will be attacked at Trump rallies. That’s what we want"
"We're starting anarchy here"
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
Is this not illegal?
1 sandvich 2017-08-17
here is why I'd be worried about Vegas.
1 jon14salazar 2017-08-17
I'll be out of town for that, I'm not sure if it's a good thing or not
1 0xFEEDFACECAFEBEAF 2017-08-17
nothing to see here folks. i saw this on Voat, but they were having real conversation...
1 LeroyGivens 2017-08-17
I will be there that weekend. I can post screenshots of my ticket if needed, but I will keep an eye out and report back. I just want to have a good time, not looking for trouble.
1 curiousoap 2017-08-17
Moving to Vegas in a couple days. Scared shitless.
1 fernorum 2017-08-17
Apparently the last two "terror attacks" have people actually worrying about the safety of the Las Vegas Strip. Even with bollards though, once a vehicle passes through, getting on the sidewalks via the sloping concrete slabs at intersections and low curbs make an "attack" still plausible. http://www.casinopedia.org/news/anti-terror-bollards-on-las-vegas-strip-post-barcelona-attacks
1 umatbru 2017-08-17
..and Mayweather wins without incident.
How does it feel to have egg on your face?
1 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2017-08-17
Could; [koo d; unstressed kuh d] verb a simple past tense of can, auxiliary verb (used to express possibility): I wonder who that could be at the door. That couldn't be true. (used to express conditional possibility or ability): You could do it if you tried. (used in making polite requests): Could you open the door for me, please? (used in asking for permission): Could I borrow your pen? (used in offering suggestions or advice): You could write and ask for more information. You could at least have called me.
will wĭl) n. 1. The mental faculty by which one deliberately chooses or decides upon a course of action: championed freedom of will against a doctrine of predetermination. 2. a. Diligent purposefulness; determination: an athlete with the will to win. b. Self-control; self-discipline: lacked the will to overcome the addiction. 3. A desire, purpose, or determination, especially of one in authority: It is the sovereign's will that the prisoner be spared.
Could implies there is a chance, but not a certainty.
Will implies a 100% certainty.
Now which word did I use, skippy? Learn to read, and then learn to comprehend what you read. The only egg on my face came as a result of the direct blacksplash of egg you just took in retort to your retarded fucking comment. Get some sleep, homie. Only a tired mind makes such an egregious error in comprehending what they just read.
Check it out; when an elite military stages a mission, let's say someone like Delta Force..they have a saying; "stay frosty". It means stay cool, and keep on your toes. You know how you do that? By observation and situational awareness and being alert to what could happen.
More often than not, nothing happens. But should something go down, it's important to have prior knowledge and awareness to a given situation. Ya dig? A Hurricane could hit the coast, or it could veer offshore. By your logic, we should just act like it isn't churning off the coast just because we don't know if it will make landfall.
Stay chilly, amigo. God bless!
1 umatbru 2017-08-17
tl;dr
1 DefNotHillDawg 2017-08-17
Creepy
1 DaniElizabethG 2017-08-17
Umm....
1 VadersDawg 2017-08-17
And still here we are. Internet up in arms over narratives that can fall apart in less than 15mins of scrutiny.
1 Touchmethere9 2017-08-17
Yeah are we suppose to believe dozens of people being paid $20 an hour are ALL going to keep quiet after being a part of a false flag terror attack? I mean you'd have to be more gullible than the idiots who watch CNN / FOX all day.
1 bgny 2017-08-17
Said the person with no integrity.
1 Chuck_Rogers 2017-08-17
I very much doubt there were paid users here.
Haven't seen any real convincing evidence tbh, yet the modlogs here explicitly state "CTR" as a reason for banning someone.
You think nobody from CTRs Reddit division would do an AMA or leak something?
1 EvanSuperfly 2017-08-17
It's not gay if you're getting paid ;)
1 LightBap 2017-08-17
Spoken like a true sheep 🐑
1 TheWiredWorld 2017-08-17
That is a known reputation management agent - reply at your own caution. Don't waste your time.
1 MichelleObamasPenis 2017-08-17
1 CelineHagbard 2017-08-17
Removed. Rule 10.