The voice of reason has spoken. Let's hope people listen.

Duly upvoted! This thread is the most rational thing I've read all day.

If it is a rational look at this event you are looking for, you will be let down if you search for it on Youtube. So many 'researchers' spouting off baseless theories as fact, playing their part in the divide and conquer. I have only seen one exception so far.

Has anyone noticed the neon green and neon blue/turquoise clothing that seem to be Prevalent in the videos of these protest incidents?

Not until you mentioned it. What does it imply?

Clearance sale at Walmart perhaps.

It is just something I have noticed. Personally I believe it is a color scheme used as a camera directing tool for the news media videographers. For cable news production though, they match said color schemes with their digital graphics and tv personalities to enhance propaganda penetration. Ebola, anyone?

What you state is correct. Hence the real reason they fund terrorist groups also. Massive White Helmets Photo Cache Proves Hollywood Gave Oscar to Terrorist Group

https://clarityofsignal.com/2017/02/27/massive-white-helmets-photo-cache-proves-hollywood-gave-oscar-to-terrorist-group/

Also remember that sock puppet software exists that allows one government agent to easily control many accounts at once. These brigaded posts with hundreds of comments could literally be one or two gov agents supporting their own comments.

What you state about sock puppets controlling multiple accounts is correct. I have been having my Clarity of Signal posts revealing western support for terrorists constantly jumped on by concern trolls who then alert mods who then acts upon the post. Earlier this year, I was receiving thousands of views from Reddit but now it has slowed to a trickle due to the sock puppets and ghost banning.

This is the best post I've seen yet about this.

This shit is all staged or used by the media to get us pissed at each other.

Divide and conquer. I'm hoping more people are seeing through the narrative.

I'm hoping more people are seeing through the narrative.

It seems like they are, but the question remains: what can be done about it?

Good question, but one step at a time. First, we need mass awakening to the truth. Only after that, can we get to meaningful solutions.

Sounds like a religious sort of 'hope for the future' kind of thing.

Not my intent, but I don't see how we can discuss real solutions with ~half (?) of the country asleep.

Here's an important lesson from history from AlternativeViewTV (folks can subscribe to it on YouTube) :

"Political Murder, Klan / Nazi Style"

The government manipulated a KKK group to kill Nonviolent Peace activists and union organizers in Greensboro 1979.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK_f7ETEg1U

Those are the same hosts from Boys for Sale -- ALTERNATIVE VIEWS NEWS MAGAZINE! Wow, real journalism.

Yep, I've been subscribed to "AlternativeViewTV" (one word) on YouTube for a couple years. I was delighted when I found them. I don't know if Frank Morrow and Douglas Kellner are still living, but their wondrous work lives on. Like you said, they were real journalists.

Their YouTube channel has interviews with lots of people like anti-CIA activists John Stockwell, Philip Agee, and many others. They were based in Austin, TX. Love them!

By the way, although their televised program was called "Alternative Views" (with an "s"), the YouTube channel does not have the "s" and is spelled "AlternativeViewTV" (no "s"). Hope you enjoy it too.

Terrific, thanks so much!

It is happening. People I know that I thought would live their whole life asleep are waking up... I see it all over. We live in interesting times.

Have you been on Twitter? My belief is that people ARE buying it.

No doubt, lots of people believe whatever they are told by the media.

Also, a chance to strip away freedom of speech and peaceful protest. I'm not a nazi, or even a Trump voter, but the anti -protest should never have been held at the same time. That's why it's obvious, they have a constitutional right to march, and the anti protest has a right also, but not at the same time. Obviously instigating violence. Meanwhile, Goldman Sachs still wins the white house no matter who holds office.

"Also, a chance to strip away freedom of speech."

Bingo. One of the big thoughts being put out there now by progressives and "marginalized groups" is: "When you've weaponized your free speech to make me feel terrorized, maybe we need to reconsider ....". Thats pretty serious shit.

Richard Spencer does not work for George Soros

I am not for or against Richard Spencer but he factually is not being funded by George Soros

If you don't agree with him just don't agree with him and dispute his points

I reject your notion that the thousands of neo-nazis (not "so-called nazis" like you try to softly portray them as) are all paid by Soros. It is an absurd claim and shifts the blame away from them.

The truth needs to be preserved. Thousands of these neo-nazis showed up under their own free will and accordance in order to preach their hate in Charlottesville.

If you refuse to accept that truth, then you are equally a part of the problem.

Weren't they a bunch of people protesting the removal of General Lee's statue from Lee Park? Maybe a bunch of folk who don't want to see their history erased by the borg-like PC brigade? If Antifa didn't get bussed in by Soros, nothing would have happened.

Funny you mention antifa being bussed in. There is an entire twitter feed out there showing the identities of some the neo-nazis that have been ID'd from the 'unite the right rally' and the overwhelming majority are from out-of-state.

James Fields himself was living in Maumee, Ohio which is about an 8-9 hour drive to Charlottesville.

Why are all these neo-nazis showing up from different states to cause violence?

Lmfao!

OP said,

The so-called Nazis are mostly led by government agents,

i.e. they're useful idiots, not that they are all paid and it's all fake. The wealthy elites sit back and laugh at the plebs as they squabble and murder each other over stupid shit time and time again. Seeing the bigger picture and resisting the urge to 'pick a side' is the only sane approach.

OP also said,

Antifa and the Nazis are both on the payroll

i.e., these neo-nazis were being paid to attend this 'unite the right' rally.

I have no doubt some of the wealthy elites look down on some of these issues and the people who engage in them. However, that doesn't change my views on calling the neo-nazis out for what they are.

Nothing in the title says that they're on the same payroll. Being "on the payroll" means you're being funded to do what you do.

That's exactly what you said in the title of your thread. Why are you dishonest about your own words when anyone can just scroll up and read them?

Thousands of people showed up. Most of them were not neo Nazis. Facts matter, and you're inventing them because you don't like other people's politics.

What would you call people who support neo-nazi groups, wear neo-nazi uniforms, and chant neo-nazi slogans and phrases?

I call them neo-nazis. You?

In short, you are being mind-controlled by fake politics.

Nah, I just don't buy your weak attempts to gaslight others. Like what you're trying to do right here.

Nice rhetoric. Do you want to win a dick-measuring contest, or are you trying to have a fact-based discussion about reality?

And with this one too.

I will say this too, for someone who's trying to portray themselves as a type of mediator or peacemaker, you sure are defensive when someone criticizes neo-nazis.

Gaslighting is a form of manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or members of a group, hoping to make targets question their own memory, perception, and sanity. Using persistent denial, misdirection, contradiction, and lying, it attempts to destabilize the target and delegitimize the target's belief.

You're not very good at it either.

In fact, posts like this only reaffirm my beliefs about you and your motivations for making this thread.

These rules are basically "rules to see shitty argumentative people"

I love how they just disappeared after you started calling them out.

Nah, still here. Its just not worth the effort to reply to people like OP sometimes. It only takes 1-2 posts before he resorts to trying to gaslight and manipulate people. Easier to just ignore

Wait are you just gunna gloss over the Soros connection to literal Nazis is in Ukraine?

Yes. He will probably come back later with some half-assed cop-out and deflect.

He can't dare admit that maybe there are people orchestrating all of this cause his worldview is built on hyperpartisanship and his brain would probably implode

I love how the national conversation has jumped from nationalists, to supremacists, and now nazis. The first two weren't quite cutting it huh, had to really ramp it up.

Where do you get "thousands of neo-nazis?" Do you have any source for attendance numbers? I was under the impression it was dozens of "neo-nazi" demonstrators and hundreds/thousands of counter protestors.

Soros worked with nazis to rob Jews of their property in WWII, what makes you think he wouldn't shadow fund some now to get his revolution going in this country?

Antifa demands George Soros pay us the money he owes. Unite comrades and fight for $15/hour. https://twitter.com/BevHillsAntifa/status/848741130040623106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intellihub.com%2Fdid-billionaire-leftist-george-soros-break-his-promise-to-antifa%2F

Have you got any evidence of substance to back these claims up?

I assume you meant (((International bankers)))?

So is Milo...a Jew by the way...lying when he says "We(Jews) do run everything!"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBrnjfcT3-k

So you believe everything Milo says? That's pretty sad.

Are you calling Milo a liar? Thats pretty anti-semetic.

That's a false equivalency

Wow...another one...

Its like the Fourth Reich around this place.

Nice try.

The Unite the Right organizer is Jason Kessler(((?)))

The guy who video'd and witnessed the crash is (((Jon Ziegler)))

They guy who drove the car is Jason Fields AKA (((Jason Bloom))) AKA (((Jason Meyer)))

"White Nationalists were on the corner telling him where to go" - (((Jon Ziegler)))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewxba5-vdhA

wutz goin on?...

Make it about race and add absolutely nothing to the conversation.

I have known both ANTIFA and neo-Nazis, and none of them were receiving a dime to agitate. People don't have to get paid to believe in an ideology.

What he's saying is that there are countless numbers of dumb people who willingly align themselves with these ideologies without being paid shills who are "part of the conspiracy". Sure there may be relative handfuls of people who understand how to manipulate the masses for their own benefit, but let's not act like there aren't also a bunch of actual idiot racists/bigots/ideologues on all sides at all times.

Mpst of these groups and individuals are decentralized.

It's not anecdotes. The ANTIFA community is very small in America...literally a couple thousand folks. lol they are all dirt poor.

Anarchists hate George Soros. The idea that he's paying them just shows how RADICALLY ignorant people are in this sub.

What does Antifa Mean?...

What Antifa Means?...

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6thx46/what_antifa_means/

What we are seeing are cults of personalities. The ones at the tippy top of these "organizations" are more likely in the pocket of someone else.

they need new division, and this is what they came up with.

Exactly right. I work with dozens of black, working class guys; many of them self-employed. These guys simply do not connect to leftist politics and they're in no rush to support the Dems in any way, much less antifa or Nazi's. By September-October of 2016 I was like "the polls arent seeing what I'm seeing. There are A LOT of black men voting for Trump." And after the election they werent being swayed by the media's constant drum beat to oust him. I dont mean this to be a pro-Trump comment. I'm saying it to point out that there was some American solidarity and pride and brotherhood stuff taking place out here. By out here I mean off of CNN-MSNBC-FOX-ABC-REDDIT-TWITTER, and in the building trades. Shit was feeling good man. But perhaps unity among the working and middle class isnt in the best interests of those who seek power over us. .... So now what? The country is obsessed by fake ass Nazi's? Of which there are probably no more 2 or 3 thousand nationwide? 10% of which are probably undercover FBI? And media talking heads are accusing Trump of fomenting Nazi violence? Fucking please!

I don't mean this to be a pro Trump comment

C'mon man your post history is full of you defending Trump and posting in T_D.

Have your opinions and feel free to express them but I do find it odd many Trump supporters here in this sub, and elsewhere, tend to try and seem neutral by similar statements, while they are clearly not

I truly didn't mean that to be a pro-Trump comment. I was trying to provide a real-life example of how some of the things that have divided us in the past, and some of the ways we were divided (in this case, all blacks always voting Dem) are melting away. And so "those that would seek to control us" need another way to keep us divided. I thought my example was "on topic," but I can see how someone could be skeptical since I do support many Trump policies and I do think he deserves to be defended against many of the more outrageous slurs. I guess you're free to discount my opinion because truth be told I roll my eyes anytime someone says something that attempts to cast Hillary or others like her in any light other than negative.

I'm not discounting your opinion it's just so biased against left politics, if you're talking about divide and conquer then just talking about leftist politics plays right into that. Maybe you think the right does it too and was just using an example, in which case my apologies.

And btw there is a reason majority of black people vote dems the majority of the time and still did in this past election

Isn't a sizeable portion of the modern KKK actually undercover FBI agents? I imagine the same applies to other White Supremacist organizations.

I mean he says it and you say it but you haven't provided a shred of evidence.

Why does everyone on the internet think it's my job to educate them? If you're truly interested, you can do the research like everyone else.

yeah this picking sides thing is stupid, we are all on the same side

International bankers and elites aka the jews, lol.

International bankers and globalist elite is code for the jews. Everyone knows that. Im simply laughing about it.

Not an argument.

Prove it. We have proof antifa is Soros group. Where's the proof the Nazis are being funded by outside agitators?

Spencer definitely seems like CIA and everywhere he goes stupid shit happens and the media always applies it to all Trump supporters.

Good. Since the Democrat Party won't exist past 2018 this will no longer be an issue.

What, in your view, will replace it?

Hey american kid, can u please give me the proof that Soros funds antifas? I want my money

Wrong country

Hey wannabe american kid, can u please give me the proof that Soros funds antifas? I want my money

I assume this is not reflective of the real views of the sub, because I don't hate Soros just because he is Jewish and rich. Maybe if you showed examples of a terrorist group he supports or something, rather than those groups that "agitate for political violence", like the ACLU, American Library Association, and Amnesty international. I looked through the list you linked for actually violent groups, and gave up around "Campaign for Better Healthcare".

I've always thought Antifa was payed by the powers that be. The Same Execs ordering Fox news outrage pieces on it, are the ones chilling with the rich who bankroll this shit.

Right Wingers need an enemy, so they pay a bunch of masked men to prance around being antifa.

Dear Antifa,

Thank you so much for protecting me from Nazi's.

• Said No One Ever

A lot of people through the history

Not in America. Antifa in the US is a mockery of what it is in Europe. But even in Europe you have government infiltrators co-opting and guiding your movement.

Wrong . Especially in Greece the anarchist movement is pretty organized and a threat to the government in compare with other countries. Also in Europe even though the bad circumstances and the repression of many sides(same in UK or Germany) people appreciate the work theyve done

Absolutely right. It's a shame that many people in /r/conspiracy fail to acknowledge this.

There is no two party system. There is only The Bank.

Idiots, thats what exactly antifas and anarchists talk about. For fucks sake open a fucking book already.

When I saw David Duke there I knew something was amiss. That whole thing wreaks. Our government has had agent provocateurs create violence in this country since at least the '60s, this is nothing new.

Add in that spencer is a zIonist shill..

(((INTERNATIONAL BANKERS))) and (((ELITES)))

It's deserved.

So every time a liberal references a leftist mainstream article that attacks Trump, they are being conned because the media is really on Trump's side...? Trump and Jim Acosta have the same boss and this is all theater.

Well, if that's the case, there's nothing left to fight. It's over. Humanity lost.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=antifa

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nazi

The left and right are evil.

In the middle, we come together against the globalist elite and we win.

Then they lose.

Question is, where's my paycheck?

It's not like Soros didn't work with actual, real life Nazis in the past, so I wouldn't put it past him.

Occupy wallstreet was nonpartisan in the sense that it completely circumnavigated the left/right divide. This terrified them. And yet they deconstructed the movement by infiltrating it with agitators.

Are these Nazis connected to the Ukraine and McCain? I saw something about that somewhere. Supposedly, this same tactic was used to overthrow the Ukrainian government.

The bros that they hired as nazis.. Like seriously I couldn't believe the people that showed up. I wish more people understood that they're trying to divide and distract as always.

Good post. Sensationalist corporate media will jump at the chance for trying to divide the people. People need to stop screaming "LIBTARD" and "CONTARD" and start reading up on political science to see how much they've been scammed. We are ruled by NEOliberals and NEOconservatives, both far right authoritarian corporate whores. (Elite bankers control most corporations.) Violent type of protest is a trap anyway.

Consisting how much they brigades my post , you might be right

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6tgkm0/crisis_actors_wanted_in_charlotte_archived/?st=J6C3229K&sh=e7383b49

This post is antisemitic.

END THE FED

This

Soros is funding Richard Spencer through Antifa-EU

It's all staged.

Loots expose them all online with their identities revealed

Great post and follow up comments. Keep speaking truth to power, brother.

Not an argument.

Hey wannabe american kid, can u please give me the proof that Soros funds antifas? I want my money

Why does everyone on the internet think it's my job to educate them? If you're truly interested, you can do the research like everyone else.

Terrific, thanks so much!