Paranoia is real amongst the posters here lol.

For good reason. Just because your paranoid doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Almost like there is some sort of conspiracy....

Reading New from now on, not Hot or Popular so I found it...

I always sort based one New too.

controversial is how I'm here

It was immediately down-voted for painting Russians in a bad light. Try changing the words mobster to "comrades", fucky to "fun", and mafia to "friends"

In Soviet antartica fun finds you, comrade!

товарищ!

This subreddit is so weird when it comes to Russia.

You've got 75 upvotes in an hour, stop crying goddamn.

not here for karma

cries about downvotes

Happens a lot on this sub.

Happens a lot on every sub. On literally every single active sub except places like TD, where people go to new and upvote everything, new submissions are routinely downvoted very, very quickly.

Go ahead and submit something to videos, or gaming, or any other active sub. Don't do it just once. Submit a number of things. More times than not, your submission will be quickly downvoted.

You know what ruins your credibility? When you cry that everything is a conspiracy against you.

You're at over 100 points. Calm down. No one is stifling your speech on reddit.

Yes, the way I interact with people whining on reddit is the same way I interact with the people I choose to spend my time with.

Your first reaction was to publicly complain that bots are out to shut down your posts. You didn't wait, you just complained.

You can attack me personally all you want, it doesn't detract from your own behavior.

Lol... good on you. You complain, but I'm a lonely loser. Enjoy!

"Anyone who replies to my general comments on Reddit is retarded!" - you

It's just skepticism.

That is so weird! Almost like there should be a sub for this sort of thing...

Jesus Christ, your post is #2 on the front page. Nobody is trying to suppress your story about a pilot telling you a story.

In the first ten minutes of the post it was heavily downvoted. I watched it while I was having my coffee this morning.

Perhaps Atlantis is Antartica, that got submerged in water and it froze really quick for some reason. Perhaps there is really a gateway to inner earth. Perhaps Hitler is there.

The inner earth theory always made more sense to me than it being full of lava. Explains Bigfoot being a race who lives there and that's why they can appear and disappear so easily. And Antarctica, how can historians explain that like 15th century map that is satellite accurate and shows it without ice when it wasn't explored until the early 20th century. I like the rumors of pyramids there too. I think disclosure is coming within our lifetime. They've been easing the idea on us with things like men in black. And when the Pope is justifying the concept, shit is about to go down.

how is bigfoot getting into the inner earth, and why cant other creatures use the same path? or can they

People who have had close encounters say they smell like wet dogs. My theory is they acces inner earth through underwater caves.

can we find these caves?

maybe all wet dogs are really baby big foots

Look up nahinat Valley inescapable world Heritage site. Caves. Plus explorers that went up the valley lost their heads. Have never been able to find video or pics of the upper Valley, odd for a world Heritage site...

Also Malta, Peru, Grand Canyon have caves and probably many more.

I'm not finding anything when I look up "nahinat Valley". Is the spelling correct?

I'm having trouble finding it. Any links?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahanni_National_Park_Reserve

my bad, wrong spelling

I don't understand your reasoning. How would an inner earth make more sense? We can see volcanoes. Mines get very hot the deeper you dig. We can measure the properties of the interior of the Earth by measuring earthquake waves and how they propagate. We know the Earth isn't hollow.

How else do you explain the Bigfoot race living there and why they can disappear from a Oregon forest so quickly? Fast travel to the South Pole to disappear inside a hollow Earth to man the lava-pumping machines built under volcanos, obviously.

Classic, giving a dumb answer to a question that wasn't asked to you to derail any actual answer. Mocking it just makes it obvious you have no unqiue opinion on it

He just wants sarcasm karma.

It's the hip reddit thing to do, make an outlandish statement clearly misrepresenting an argument.

How else do you explain the Bigfoot race living there and why they can disappear from a Oregon forest so quickly?

Hollow earth doesn't really explain anything about Bigfoot being elusive. If the Earth is hollow, the inside is still hundreds of miles below the surface of the Earth.

How else do you explain the Bigfoot race living there and why they can disappear from a Oregon forest so quickly?

They don't exist, and they don't disappear quickly, because they never appeared in the first place?

What reason do you have to posit the existence of another hominid race living contemporaneously with us? There's no need to explain something that doesn't exist, or that there is no evidence for.

It's like saying "well, how do you explain the gold shield around the Earth?" First of all, there isn't a gold shield around Earth. No need to explain it.

I'm guessing you've never been troubled with awards for intelligence.

And I'm sure the life of the party.

Thanks!

That's sarcasm.

Inner earth makes sense if you think of it as a separate dimension rather than just underground earth

Stranger Thing's The Upside Down ...

remember Land of the Lost? where people accidentally slip into the inner earth/other dimension ruled by lizard people....my favorite show as a kid.

Lol, I caught my neighbor's fence on fire making "lava soup" because of that show.

Taking "the floor is lava" to a whole new level.

I've always enjoyed the honeycomb crust theory.

The whole earth isn't hollow, the crust is like an Aero bar though, filled with gaps and caverns, into which the Antediluvian civilization fled to escape the cataclysm. After this long they would have spread out, connected many caverns, maybe created a network that spans the entire crust by now...

According to currently understood physics... The big bang, we know this isn't possible, yet....

I like to think that the inner earth is pretty much exactly like Avatar. Giants, rampant bioluminescence, and an immense connection with nature.

Isn't there some data available on Antarctica from satellites?

It's a so-called buffer zone.

Isn't cerberus a wolf? I'm confused

You're talking about Fenrir, a wolf that can swallow this world in one gulp.

Have they found the gate?

There is no gate.

hitler is there? don't you think it's very likely that he has died now due to old age?

Hitler is just one in a long line of immortal globalist reptilians, why would he be dead? Everyone knows his kind just hangs out in Antarctica after they fake their deaths.

are you being serious? what makes you believe this? do you have any proof?

Yes, actually. I, personally, have not seen Hitler nor any of his reptilian brethren after their so-called "deaths". I also have never been to Antarctica. It doesn't really take much to line the dots up.

Can you please line the dots up for me? being genuine, im interested to know why you believe this.

Alright. I haven't seen Hitler since he faked his death. I also haven't been to Antarctica. Therefore, everything I've written in this thread's been a joke and it should be real obvious without the /s.

the real conspiracy canon is (which also is why conspiracist occasionally go full blown 14/88) is that (clarifying one quick time this isnt my personal belief is what ive gathered as the most accepted hitler/draco theory) ill make jt brief

jews are draco worshippers reptile in bible is draco( draco =reptile species from another dimension) dracos claim to be creator Jesus is theorized as pleadien (light race, lost cousins of humans, believe universe is a mix of Christian beliefs/eastern vibration reincarnation meditation etc thrown in)

cut to actual history

The jews killed 20 million Christians in the Bolshevik revolution, created communism, and for first time in modern history pushed atheism as a mainstream belief.

jewish created communism was creeping into europe and surrounding Germany on all sides

Hitler comes to power in a last stand of the West, researches antarctica and other dimension

back to conspiracy

hitler found alien tech, allied with pleadians (where the pure aryan agenda came to play)

also pleadians supported his fight learning about the draco illuminatti.

the conspiracy is the actual good guy lost, jews were to be sent to Madagascar and died from disease and starvation, holocaust was a lie by the comminist jews to cover up their own Christian holocaust

So this is a fun thread to pull on, since even david icke was accused of anti-Semitism for his views on reptilians. Have you thought about the idea that the jewish ethnicity through maternal lines thing is because aliens (jehova of the old testament) modified mitochondrial DNA to allow later alien hybridization?

from what ive read they consider what would be the 'creator' aliens. the dracos supposedly arent capable of this and claimed about being the creators (the bibles false gods, serpent, etc) bc theyre extra-dimensional and are capable of much more than humans. So humans got new DNA (in the the latter conspiracy, the jews) and left to grow. Serpent sneaks in, poses as the creator, and hijacks judaism until Jesus comes

Is the serpent here equivalent to moloch/baal? Does it tie into khazarian false judaism thing?

yes actually exactly

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Hmm..

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I believe it!

Reptiles still die eventually. Don't and make them out to be gods. The only immortal Reptilian according to my research is the queen of the Draco, who isn't even on this planet.

They only die due to disease or accidents (or murder). They're biologically immortal, there are several species of earth creatures that are as well. Just biologically immortal =/= immortal.

several species of earth creatures that are as well

Name one.

Name one

sorry had to weigh in there. https://io9.gizmodo.com/5618046/the-mystery-of-why-turtles-never-grow-old---and-how-we-can-learn-from-it Tortoises do not age in the sense we think of it. They might die from disease, or random happenstance, or cancer, but they don't have a clock that says "too old lights out" like we do.

Lmao you were so sure of yourself

Hydras

Any references or can you give any names? I don't really consider 20k year old pinecones as "immortal" beings.

Hydra and (some) jellyfish are two examples.

what else 'dies' except the 'bio' bro?

What are you even trying to say

I could ask you the same question!

I mean what I'm saying is pretty clear. Something that is biologically immortal can die from disease or accidents, something that is immortal cannot die period.

I guess I don't get what part is tripping you up.

I guess I don't get what part is tripping you up.

the way you use words tripped me up

So what part is confusing then? I assume english isn't your first language?

"just biological immortal =/=immortal"

that bit

Let me quote the post you obviously didnt read.

"Something that is biologically immortal can die from disease or accidents, something that is immortal cannot die or be killed period."

But, the only things that can 'die' are biological and 'alive' ,, you can't kill a 'non-biological item' e.g. a rock or a piece of metal, or a book or an Idea!

Or do you consider a robot/machine i.e. spaceship with AI as 'alive' and possibly indestructable ergo 'immortal'?

If so, you are using the wrong word, as 'immortal' is not correct terminology for such things

Demons exist, are alive but cannot die or be killed (permanantly), what would you call them other than immortal?

That's the key distinction, biological immortality just means able to die, immortal means like a demon, it cannot die ever period. It will always exist in some form. You can kill lizardmen, which makes them biologically immortal, not true immortals.

ghosts aren't 'biological'

Who said anything about ghosts?

what's a "demon" then?

Dude how are you on conspiracy if you don't even know what a demon is? Educate yourself.

educate me

Educate yourself. I don't have the time or the patience to educate you.

I don't have the time or the patience to educate you.

LOL you can't! You don't have the ability

p.s.

immortal (adj.) Look up immortal at Dictionary.com

late 14c., "deathless," from Latin immortalis "deathless, undying" (of gods), "imperishable, endless" (of fame, love, work, etc.),

from assimilated form of in- "not, opposite of" (see in- (1)) + mortalis "mortal" (from PIE root *mer- "to rub away, harm," also "to die" and forming words referring to death and to beings subject to death).

In reference to fame, literature, etc., "unceasing, destined to endure forever, never to be forgotten, lasting a long time," attested from early 15c. (also in classical Latin). As a noun, "an immortal being," from 1680s.

Not queen of England? I've seen rumors that all queens have been the queen mother and the old coffins are empty.

Baseless though haha.

I heard that Queen Mother's coffin isn't empty and is around 14 feet long.

Reptilians apparently go back to their true forms upon death.

Well the story about it I read said they filled it with memorabilia and had to extend it for that reason so which is less peculiar?

Either way they messed with the size for some reason and the rumor mill is juicy.

indeed

So much speculation going on w.r.t the royal family.

Why would they risk putting an actual reptilian body in a coffin? Much easier to just put some human body in.

Well no one could ever open it and if they were a diff species ruling I'm sure they would honor their dead leader.

Who the hell knows haha. I feel like I'm discussing Starcraft lore.

Lmao.

Okay, but they could always put their dead leader into a secret super fancy underground tomb or temple or whatever.

Yep. The deception is their MO. They love truth in plain sight.

I just have a feel for their style by now haha.

lol

But they're cold blooded. Wouldn't they be better off in a warmer climate like the middle of australia or the sahara desert? Possibly in the amazon? This could be why Lizardly Clinton and other liberals dont want amazon deforestation because it would uncover Hitler's hiding place.

See, I thought this at first as well, but after a bit of deductive reasoning I came to a rather chilling hypothesis (no pun intended). To understand my hypothesis, however, we have to look at a scheme the reptilians concocted long ago: the Greenland/Iceland Plan.

You see, before the safe haven known as Antarctica was developed, the reptilians needed a new place to stay. They needed an area that would be warm enough for them to live in (with some assistance), but also isolated enough that humans wouldn't be around to bother them. The closest place they could find that fit these criteria was one called Greenland, a small island located near a bigger island called Iceland.

After reading that above paragraph, you may be thinking to yourself: "Wait, isn't Iceland the smaller island located near Greenland?" And after searching it up, you would think: "Yeah, it is. This kid's fucking retarded." But if you did think that, you would be greatly underestimating the true reach of the reptilians and how much they can influence the world.

Upon discovery of Greenland, the reptilians began hatching a plan to keep humans off the island. After months of scheming, they came up with a solution: switch the names of Iceland and Greenland around in an attempt to trick the humans, thereby stopping them from discovering the reptilian's new paradise. They reasoned that humans traveling to Iceland would, upon hearing of the island of Greenland so close by, opt to travel there instead.

The reptilians executed the plan, and for the most part, it worked flawlessly. The majority of humans stayed away from Iceland and the few who did were disposed of. Although their plan worked for a time, eventually the humans discovered the island wasn't what the name implied it would be. By the time they found out, however, the reptilians had already finished developing Antarctica and had left, leaving no traces of their existence behind.

This now brings me back to my hypothesis. If the reptilians have successfully pulled the name-switching scheme before, had they done it again with Antarctica? If so, what other area could they have possibly switched it's name with? It's obvious something's up, but as of right now I'm not sure how deep the rabbit hole goes.

where do you get your information from?

The voices in his head.

Close enough

+1

acid

I thought you were crazy until the second to last paragraph when something hit a chord. I did some research and found this chilling fact: There are NO reptiles on "Greenland".

This is irrefutable proof that the coverup did occur and everything else you wrote is CONFIRMED as a result of the evidence. Where there's smoke there's fire and where there's no smoke there's ice. And what's the biggest ice on earth? The so-called ANTARCTICA.

After reading the last 3 comments, I am utterly confused.

I'm sure the details will be fleshed out once this is used as copy-pasta in r/circlejerk

I'm just sincerely hoping this is very clever sarcasm or we're all doomed.

Where there's smoke there's fire and where there's no smoke there's ice. And what's the biggest ice on earth? The so-called ANTARCTICA.

rotflmao

D2 Mighty Ducks was the first to tell me about the name switch of Iceland being hospitable and Greenland being cold.

Immortal? How is that possible?

In the "Genesis" chapter of the Bible it lists the names and ages of some of the oldest people to ever exist. Adam, for example, lived to be 930 years old, an age that most humans today assume to be impossible to live to. What most people don't realize, however, is that the reptilians of today have special powers that allow them to drain the humans of their lifeforce. This power allows the reptilians to remain essentially immortal while making regular humans die much earlier than their biblical counterparts, whose reptilians had not developed said powers yet.

Over time, the growing human population has allowed the reptilians to take less lifeforce from individuals while still allowing them to maintain their sought-after immortality. This is why the average life expectancy of humans has been steadily rising in the recent years. Maybe one day we'll see a human breach the 200- or even 300-year barrier.

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that those ages in the bible are not actual years, but months. 930 months are around 77 years.

Not saying you're wrong in general, but this particular detail might just be a trick of language. (or that may be another cover-up, who knows lol, but then again the bible in itself is probably full of shit)

Seeing people at 80+, a 300 year old person would literally be a prune.

I don't think reptillians would make a habit of being humans, it would seem like us dressing up like cows and leading the way to the slaughterhouse, they're too dignified for that, more likely to have the leading cows under their control, less messy, more safe, easily disposable after use. However I do think Hitler lived a long life in South America and finally Antarctica

Hitler was the one trying to stop the reptilians!

That's where the stargate is, remember?

Well Hitler would be 128 years old so, if he is there, odds are he's been dead for 30+ years.

I'm all for some speculation when we are left with conundrums, but the best speculation about Atlantis (or another forgotten civilization to which it has been mistakenly attributed), is that it's currently under water. We know without too much controversy that about 12,000 years before now, the sea level was about 100 feet lower than it is today because of the last glacial maximum.

We also know without much controversy that human civilizations will definitely exist at sea level. The combination of these non-controversial facts puts any substantial prospect of finding remnant civilizations at about 100 feet below sea level.

So Atlantis could have been on Antarctica?

The Piri Reis map shows the coast of the continent, so it was exposed at one point, it is now under water.

I think the idea of "Atlantis" is a proxy for any number of unknown ancient civilizations. Humans just like us, that is, homo sapiens sapiens, have been around for at least 200,000 years. Every couple of years it seems that number gets pushed further and further back. It goes to reason that human have made clever solutions to the problems of this swirling gravity well more than once in that time, and that our own history is not 4000 years old, but perhaps much older.

It's not a stretch of imagination that groups of enterprising humans got together in the past and built cities. Some probably existed in complete obscurity to this day--especially if they were not stone builders. The question remains open.

What civilization created the map by which the Piri Reis map made? A great question. So, to your point, could Atlantis be Antarctica, let me rephrase: could Antarctica be home to evidence of an ancient civilization? Perhaps. I'm curious.

I like the concept of it being a pacific rim style alliance of nations that got drown. This ring of civilization could have included a non-landlocked Antarctica.

The more we look, the more we see evidence of ancient civilizations--some not unknown necessarily-- like Thonis-Heracleion . There are more. Some have likely disintegrated. Some have left remnants for the bold and curious.

There is pretty compelling evidence around the world of cities, now submerged, all at approximately the same elevation, like the sunken structure off the coast of Yonaguni Japan. One interesting topic I've recently been exposed to is the lost continent of Mu. The islands of Indonesia are supposedly the tops of the mountain ranges of Mu.

The sea level has risen a significant amount since then.

Shit the cover has been blown!

I don't know about you guys but if Hitler were to be alive, saying "Oh what up Hitler" to him would be on my bucket list. Still may or may not be on that list already...

Atlantis is the first Garden of Eden. The second garden is the one most people are familiar with. The first garden sank after Adam and Eve fucked up.

Any time tables as to how recent this story took place or what part of Antarctica it was in?

Any interesting views about chemtrails?

No shit our devices don't interfere with any devices. How does that make any sense? Never did. I always use hen anyway and nothing happens.

same with at hospitals, they used to say turn off your cellphone, it might interfere with defibrillators and shit lol

they just took a cue from the airlines that people would believe it. Nurses don't like the people talking on the phone.

Hospitals have multiple wireless systems. While its unlikely there would be interference, the research is incomplete and it is better to be safe than sorry. Also good nurses don't care, just don't be a distraction.

Haha, that last fact is as sad as it is glorious. I've stumbled across a TV segment some day that showed the life of a pilot, and he too said that every pilot fucks their flight attendants, virtually without exception (except for the pilot they interviewed of course, he was a married man after all ;-))

I suspect that Barium, Strontium, and Aluminium (among other materials) are being added to the Jet fuel itself on specific days, in specific large airports. It would only really require a relatively small organization to oversee such a program (even on a global scale), and those involved could largely be oblivious to it too. Those who have to know are selected based on their readiness to do anything to "save the planet" and told it's all to stop global warming. I believe shill-farms work exactly the same, only that even fewer people would realize what they are really doing when all they do is they with jet fuel, rather than people who get paid to drive other people nuts and manufacture a consent.

The only thing a pilot might notice would be a slight variance in fuel efficiency (either up or down), and if they're old enough they may silently wonder if contrails really were equally thick and persistent in the 80's or 90's as they are now.

I say I suspect these things because to say I believe these things would be reasoning from a conclusion. With the starting premise of chemtrails being real and everywhere, I considered how such a feat might potentially be possible.

Adding the stuff to the fuel seems to be the most logical option. We used to add lead to gasoline to increase burn efficiency until we noticed the ill effects it had on the people and the environment. I think at least this time it's added on purpose. Not necessarily to harm people directly, but for reasons of further control, this time of the weather and thereby all of nature.

For those who make those decisions, though, a few hundred thousand additional avoidable deaths a year, as well as sickness and further collective retardation are a worthy cost in exchange for more control and power.

Sorry, that turned into a rant. I'm not fully convinced that chemtrails are real, but I can see how it might all fit a bigger picture.

That is also how I imagine chemtrails being done. People also suspect that fly ash from coal plants is being added to the jet fuel.

There is also the Central European Pipeline system which also used to deliver fuel to civilian airports which could easily be hijacked for this purpose.

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_49151.htm

Fly ash, so how would that not get congealed around the fuel injectors and blow the engines up?

You clearly have no idea of the rigorous testing regime for aircraft fuel. If theres anything weird in the fuel, multiple people are going to find it at multiple points along the way.

If Barium, Strontium, and Aluminum are being added and are part of contrails today, has there been a measurable increase in these chemicals in the environment? Aluminum doesn't stay in its non-oxidized state for long. It turns into Aluminum Oxide, which is prevalent in the crust.

I've come across a few studies about it, but I wouldn't be able to find them anymore. I'm at best an armchair scientist, so I usually just read the abstract.

But there are credible voices out there shouting about just that, yes.

If one was doing a peer reviewed scientific study, we'd have to account for the industrial and personal uses of these materials. I know fireworks contain a pretty fair amount of them. Would it be measurable? Don't know.

Sure, factor it in, but I seriously doubt that all the fireworks in the world would leave anywhere near the amount of residue in the air, soil, snow, and critically in ocean waters that we're seeing.

My view is that in this rare case, Occam's Razor actually points towards conspiracy, as it is the simplest, most logical explanation of where these materials come from.

some say they detected those elements but we need an official peer reviewed study

Agreed.

Some local news affiliate did a story where they found residue from sprays. Look it up.

Not just prevalent in the crust.

It makes up a significant portion of all the dirt around you, especially clay, which is mostly aluminum.

Wouldn't that possibly hurt the motor? Why so complicated?

Nothing about this is complicated. You'd just have to insert a couple of tank-fulls of a nano-metal mixture into the stream of jet-fuel along a pipeline or distribution center every couple of days. It would be no more difficult than water fluoridation or any other such process and it would be tremendously easy to keep it a secret as so few people need to be involved.

Granted, I'm not an expert in internal combustion or jet engines, but two data points tell me it's likely not a problem for the plane to handle additional nano-metals in its fuel. In the above-linked witness testimony, one engineer highlights that there were proposals for just such additives to jet fuel to increase fuel efficiency, but it was shot down due to potential health risks. We did the same thing with lead in gasoline back in the day, until people noticed the ill effects it had on people.

But it's a fair point. If I ever meet an aerospace engineer I'll ask them.

Hm. Fair enough.

Another question I'd have would be if those Nanoparticles survive the engines.

Well in my hypothesis they do because they're there :-D, but I admit, that's not very scientific.

They don't want laptops flying around the cabin when they have to abort a take-off, or have a rough landing.

Plus, devices and their associated bags can impede a rapid exit.

Almost all crashes occur during take-off or approach. It's pretty rare for a plane's front to fall off mid-flight, although it does happen.

what if the passport flies out the window

what if they find no remains whatsoever of 2900 casualties but a severed finger with an attached, undamaged ring is returned to the family member who happens to be a friend of the Clinton family?

This sounds intriguing.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2004/12/03/nyregion/from-911-rubble-unclaimed-mementos.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2497916/Wedding-ring-9-11-victim-Clinton-family-friend-1-6-million-tons-Ground-Zero-rubble-provide-hope-daughter-died-hit-run-decade-later.html

This was my wtf moment on 9/11 truth.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2004/12/03/nyregion/from-911-rubble-unclaimed-mementos.html

At the medical examiner's office, new tests were developed for deteriorated DNA

That your devices do not interact with the planes electronics. They only say that so you'll have more attention for take off and landing.

I figured that rule was so we didn't figure out the 9/11 calls ("Let's roll") were 100% bullshit.

I was always so baffled how nobody questioned that call...

either the person who said their spouse called and said let's roll lied, or they used voice changing technology to trick them.

Flight instructor I had always put his phone in airplane mode. I asked him why, he had to know that was all bullshit right? He said hopping cell towers made the battery go dead too fast. I assume all commercial pilots fly with the phones on.

or the let's roll statement was made on a GTE airphone to an airphone operator, as was always claimed. are you too young to remember airphones perhaps?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Beamer

Following this, the passengers and flight crew decided to act.[1] According to accounts of cell phone conversations , Beamer, along with Mark Bingham, Tom Burnett, and Jeremy Glick formed a plan to take the plane back from the hijackers.[9] They were joined by other passengers, including Lou Nacke, Rich Guadagno, Alan Beaven, Honor Elizabeth Wainio, Linda Gronlund, and William Cashman, along with flight attendants Sandra Bradshaw and Cee Cee Ross-Lyles, in discussing their options and voting on a course of action, ultimately deciding to storm the cockpit and take over the plane.

Planes do not fly with radar. You're full of shit.

Commercial and military aircraft have short range weather radar.

Yes I'm a pilot, I'm well aware. They do not use radar for navigation.

what airline was this if you don't mind answering? often see AA, UA, and DL crews arriving in same van and signing in to hotel together. would suck to work for an airline that doesn't trust their employees.

Plot twist its just some crazy dude who travels in pilot uniform.

I initially read that as "Pilot twist"

I didn't know an international community with no real ownership has a customs agency.

Arg/Ven likely then, I've heard stories. Ven really is a fucking despot tyranny boiling over and Arg is following suit.

Whole LA is screwed. Chile is the less screwed AFAIK.

Santiago, Chile's subway system will soon run mostly on renewable energy. Just read that today. Lends credence to your thought about them being less screwed in a despotic quagmire.

Colombia, Chile, Brazil, Ecuador, Argentina, Bolivia, Paraguau, and Uruguay are mostly okay.

Chile is doing well, I've heard.

ignore the MSM on Venezuela.

Eh, at this point the reality has taken on many of the colors of the picture they've been painting it as, has it not?

read this article. theres an economic war between the gov and largest goods producer in the country. Ceo is a leader in the opposition.

Mucho obligado!

What's wrong with Argentina?

Interesting story, you get an upvote.

I also think 'something' is going on down there. I've no idea what though.

Research.

Yup, get ready for Russian mobster penguins in the future...
To be fair, we had Israeli trained dolphins, IIRC.

Yup, gotta protect that flat earth model...

Red Alert 2 never forget

To play devil's advocate, and in the spirit of providing information; research into what exactly?

If I was a big-time wealthy mobster, I can't think of a better place to conduct shady dealings. There's no security except for what I bring with, there's no surveillance, there's no nothing except penguins and snow

Sounds more like the 'Russian' Jewish freemasonic mafia. Interesting.

putin looks super jewish to me

Hillary looks pretty jewish to me too.

Hitler looks jewish too.

I'll take "Things That Didn't Happen" for $600, Alex.

WHATS THAT?! THE DAILY DOUBLE?!

Maybe you can explain why all of these important people have been visiting Antarctica lately? I'm sure it's just to admire the polar bears.

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Uhh...why not? You realize that pretty much anyone can visit Antarctica, right? There are cruise ships that regularly travel there, and promise that you will experience the "midnight sun". There are tourist flights that overfly the Pole pretty much every day (including one that famously crashed into Mt. Erebus in 1979]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_New_Zealand_Flight_901) ).

Whenever I bring this up, the flatties always counter with "The Antarctic Treaty Forbids Travel to the Antarctica except for a select few, hand-picked operatives", to which I counter "you have obviously never read the Treaty, and have no idea what it says."

So I'll summarize the key points here:

• No nation shall lay claim to any part of Antarctica as sovereign land

• No nation shall establish a military presence anywhere on the continent

• Weapons of any kind are forbidden

• No nation shall establish commercial enterprises on the continent for the purpose of mining natural resources

• Any signatory reserves the right to inspect inbound traffic if they suspect that any of the above restrictions have been violated

That's pretty much it. If you want to charter a boat and visit Antarctica, go right ahead. So long as you aren't carrying weapons or mining equipment, your'e good, and no-one is going to stop you.

So you are telling me I can't bring my trebuchet to Antarctica? That place is dead to me!

Sadly, no. Oddly enough, the treaty also bans any open flame (I guess that prospect of all that ice bursting into flame is somewhat horrifying). This presented a number of problems to the researchers who first tried to set up a Foucault Pendumum at the exact geographic South Pole. Most pendulums use a match or lighter to burn through a restraining cord to start the pendulum swinging. This prevents unwanted oscillations from any sort of cutting tool, like a pair of scissors, which can set the pendulum swinging from side to side as well as sweeping across its arc. Obviously, this introductions distortions into pendulum's movement.

As the researchers explained:

It was difficult to make the pendulum swing in a plane instead of an ellipse. After several attempts with various techniques of holding the bob and dropping it we always got some kind of ellipse instead of a plane. This adds to our error because it is more difficult to locate and mark the pendulum arc’s apex. A way to do it is to suspended the bob by tying it off with a piece of string and letting it settle, then burn through the string. The bob would then drop without any outside force and swing in a plane. Since it is against the Antarctica Treaty to have any open flames at the South Pole we could not do this. After much practice Mike Town got very adept at dropping the bob so that it arced in a plane. It was difficult to make the pendulum swing in a plane instead of an ellipse. After several attempts with various techniques of holding the bob and dropping it we always got some kind of ellipse instead of a plane. This adds to our error because it is more difficult to locate and mark the pendulum arc’s apex. A way to do it is to suspended the bob by tying it off with a piece of string and letting it settle, then burn through the string. The bob would then drop without any outside force and swing in a plane. Since it is against the Antarctica Treaty to have any open flames at the South Pole we could not do this. After much practice Mike Town got very adept at dropping the bob so that it arced in a plane.

Fire is banned in Antarctic facilities for the same reason it used to be banned on wooden ships - if the structure around you goes up in flames, you're fucked. Whether in the middle of the ocean or the South Pole, the environment could kill you in minutes and there is little chance of rescue.

@mods when are you gonna ban this derailing scrublord? Literally every thread is derailed by this human trash.

Try a different comment next time. You're a broken record.

Nah, I'm good.

So, gonna call BS on either the story being real in the first place, or the story he told you. Getting to Antarctica isn't that hard. You can book tourist trips there with dozens of different agencies.

Maybe he was pulling your leg for the fun of it.

Maybe.

To be first if you're open to all these ideas you should be open to the idea you've been lies to at some point. Not attaching you but it's a little hypocritical.

Pilot here. This guy definitely sensed you were a wacko and was pulling your leg.

funny enough all those "different agencies" he mentions are actually the same single agency

Those are guided tours, with certain spots you can take trips to. I can book a trip to Rome too, but it doesn't mean I'm getting to see the inside of the popes office and shake his hand.

Correct.

There is no rule that says you have to travel with a tour guide. No-one is going to stop you if you charter your own boat and start hiking towards the Pole. Of course, if you suddenly find yourself in deep trouble, you're pretty much SOL. Which is why it is generally smarter to travel with a seasoned guide.

You mean the "dozen agencies" which are all owned by a singular entity which have very contrived reviews online?

Remindful of when Antarctica used to be discussed on 4chan and nearly without fail someone would show up - "I'm a scientist that worked in Antarctica - ask me anything"

"There's nothing down there its just cold"

Every time...

"I'm in Antarctica right now."

whats weird about that

Have you no ability to reason?

thread about slaughterhouse

"i used to work in a slaughterhouse, ama"

"they kill animals there"

that is a thread i saw recently. when you talk about something, people with direct experience there will be drawn to that thread, and tell of their experiences. happens everywhere

Yeah as long as you have around 50k sitting around you can book a trip through all the companies that are owned by one person that controls all tourism into Antarctica. It's so easy!

Cruises start around $6000 US.

Yeah and they barley if at all go inland on those. But good try I'm talking about the 50k flights that bring you to camps.

https://oceanwide-expeditions.com/antarctica/cruises/pla28-18-antarctic-peninsula

You can share a cabin for $8k.

You're stuck in the price when that's irrelevant if you don't explore Antarctica. Look at the maps

None of which changes the central point - there are no travel restrictions to Antarctica, no matter how loud the flatties scream to the contrary.

Of course it's expensive. That's because it's dangerous, and if you aren't properly equipped, you're going to find your self very dead very quickly.

Do you have any idea how much you would pay for an ascent of Mt. Everest? It's in the same ballpark - 50-80K. And yet...no-one doubts the existence of Mt. Everest. Just like Antarctica, anyone with sufficient cash can travel there - but if you're not properly equipped, you kind find yourself in a potentially fatal situation quite quickly. And the chances are good that no-one will be able to help you.

show proof

Here .

show proof, go there yourself and take pics

Ya, i don't have $5000 on hand to spend.

Uh-huh. If I dropped 50 grand on an Antarctic trip and came back with hundreds of photos and hours of video, you would simply claim "fake CGI". Be honest.

Antarctica is intriguing to me. Ever since Russian Orthodox church leader Kirill went there to 'visit penguins' and he met with the pope in Havana.

The story is odd though, why would they need cash to get through customs? Was he not going through official channels?

"Official channels" in Venezuela/Russia/etc require cash.

oh wow, didn't know that.

Read this: https://interviews.slashdot.org/story/14/04/06/2344201/interview-john-mcafee-answers-your-questions that is the most complete and thoroughly brutally honest account of travel in the third world anyone has ever dared to publish.

ooh, that guy is interesting, I'll read that now. Thanks for the link.

fricking awesome. thank you.

A lot of official channels across the world will require bribes.

Assuming they aren't already owned by powers that set the agenda...

That is the thing. A lot of religious leaders have been going there. There is no reason unless there is evidence of something big there that uproots everything.

which religious leader other than Kirill? I only know of him, religiously. Of course other important people have been going there, including John Kerry around election day, weird.

Never mind. I was wrong. He met with Krill before going to Antarctica. He did not go.

I can see why Antarctica would be attractive as the ideal place to do anything you didn't want anyone to know about

I can see why Antarctica would be the ideal place to make stories up about since so few people are ever likely to go there. Good work, OP.

You can point out flaws in conspiracy stories, and you can entertain them without accepting them, but calling OP a liar when you yourself have no evidence or argument is pretty lame.

The flaw in this 'conspiracy theory' is that it is presented with literally zero evidence. No different to some dude in a bar telling tales of all of the 10/10 women he has had to knock back due to 'sexual exhaustion'. Yeah, right, buddy.

It's a conversation he had, what evidence could he provide? Not every submission has to be vetted on this sub to be interesting or worth talking about.

It doesn't matter whether he could provide evidence if the story were true. The fact remains there's zero evidence. If we don't heavily scrutinize these types of posts it would encourage others to make up stories which can't be proven. If this is just a story, it would make sense that it would be told in a way that proof would not be available.

Yes OP is a liar until he/she provides a recording of this conversation and dna sample of the pilot.
What's there to prove seriously? I don't find it hard to believe he had this conversation. How do you prove stories? I really want to know. What if I tell you that I had a conversation today about video games. So it did not happen because i made no recording?

Nothing to prove, but if something is claimed with no evidence then I can dismiss it with no evidence.

I never said OP was a liar. I said these sorts of posts should be heavily scrutinized because it's so easy to make up. If you said you had a conversation about video games I wouldn't pay it any attention, the same as OPs story. The fact they can't be proven is exactly why it's easy to make up and exactly why it should be heavily scrutinized.

when you have no evidence or argument

Neither does OP though...

So you can't share stories in this sub unless you have evidence or we will assume you are a karma whoring liar? This is a sub to talk about aliens and reptilians and lots of things that don't have evidence. I'm not upvoting this post because it is pretty weak on substance but that doesn't mean I'm going to call him a liar, I do think he had this conversation with the pilot or at least I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he did, and if people want to talk about it that's cool, that's why we're here, to shoot the shit about wacky stuff normal people would laugh you out of the room for bringing up.

I didn't say you cant talk about it. Feel free. Was just pointing out that you brought up evidence when OP's story has none.

And when normal people and conspiracy theorists laugh you out of the room for bringing it up than there's a pretty good chance there's zero evidence to corroborate it and shouldn't be seriously entertained

This back and forth is silly.

To /u/DumbledoreSays : OP claimed practically nothing.

It's believable because there's nothing actually unusual about it.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", so by the same token, mundane claims require little evidence...

Basically, evidence doesn't need to come into this thread.

Maybe OPs claims weren't extraordinary as he only claimed to have a conversation, but the pilots claims are extraordinary. 1: He claims he flew to Antarctica. Not necessarily extraordinary but certainly rare 2: He claims he was given a sack of money to bribe officers. Where did this money come from? 3: He claimed he had just enough money for the remaining bribe. They must've had this planned extraordinarily ;). 4: He claims the Russian mafia was in charge of everything at their place of landing and the surrounding areas as evidenced by them not being able to explore. Where's the Russian government, where's the US government?

There are tons of stories about the extreme levels of corruption in Russian government, and it's well known that they also have a vested interest in the Antarctic. Russia, Canada, US, and China all have claims to areas that are expected to become more accessible due to climate change but Russia is the most aggressive right now and just built a new military base.

None of what the OP said about the pilot needing bribes or dealing with Russians in the Arctic should be surprising.

Now you are moving the goalpost. Before it was extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Now its surprising claims require extraordinary evidence. If you told me a cop killed your dog I wouldn't be surprised, but I would ask for evidence before condemning the cop. How is it well known that Russia has a vested interest in Antarctica, or do you mean it's a well known conspiracy theory. And when you use 'Russia' in that sense do you mean the Russian government or the Russian mafia. And even if you claim they are one and the same, wouldn't they at least want to keep up appearances that they aren't. None of it may be surprising but it certainly should have some evidence before taken seriously

I didn't have any goalpost so I can't be moving anything. Who taught you debate rhetoric? Because they failed, badly. How is it well known? It's not a conspiracy theory it's very well documented. I suggest doing some research before trying to argue, you're embarrassing yourself.

Okay well I assumed you were /u/smackson as you continued the line of argument he started that I was arguing against. Anyways, yea you did move the goalpost. I was claiming there wasn't extraordinary evidence and you countered by saying the claims shouldn't be surprising, as though that were relevant. Do you wanna argue the actual arguments or just continue to hurl insults?

There's little evidence of the story, of course there isn't because it's a personal anecdote. People on the internet can always make stuff up and others can always say r/thathappened if it sounds unrealistic. I was just trying to be helpful by giving some context that shows why it might not be as far-fetched as you might expect. Take that as you will. It's easy to verify that there are Russian scientists and military and navy doing work in the Arctic. This story could have happened. We will never know for sure because it's not something that is verifiable. I'm not sure what more there is to say about it.

Okay well I still don't see how what you said lends credence to the story not being as far-fetched as I might think. The story wasn't about Russian scientists and military. But regardless of that, I never once claimed the story was far-fetched or anything of the like. The point I was trying to make was that OP's story should be taken with a heavy grain of salt

That's fine. If you can't see it you can't see it. nbd. Either way you're not wrong about the salt. I wouldn't assume it's real. I just also wouldn't assume it isn't.

Can someone who is getting paid to post here please give me a recommendation as to how you fell into this job cause i have an imagination that is endless. Come on.....someone...anyone

Lol look at my post history before accusing me of being a shill

I never accused of of being a shill whatsoever.

I was just making a comment in general and you happened to be the last comment on the thread when I posted.

You replied directly to my comment so....

my bad. I like your comment history btw.

the pilots claims are extraordinary.

Here are some extraordinary claims about Antarctica:

• There's a pyramid (that must have been built thousands of years ago by God knows who, possibly aliens).

• there's a hole that leads to the inside of the hollow earth

• Hitler ended up there and there is a base with the remnants of the Third Reich

Less extraordinary, but still noteworthy:

The US government is doing something secret with OUR tax dollars, beyond known scientific research projects or standard defense spending.

OP didn't even claim the last one. Something going on with non-government Russians --and money. Could be as simple as drugs.

NOT EXTRAORDINARY.

So coming up with random more extraordinary claims suddenly invalidates the extraordinaryness of OPs claims?

What extraordinariness ?

I literally laid it all out for you two messages up, in fact you replied to the message in which I laid it out. I don't care to type that whole thing again

Comments like yours are why this sub constantly gets taken in by obvious LARPs.

Why be a dick though?

Ego, man. Ego. 'I'm telling a funny joke, guys, look at and laugh with me.' Ego prevents this world from pursuing fundamental truth. Instead, it aims to serve its self first (as this guy did by being a dick for no reason), and then maybe it'll go after truth.

and then maybe it'll go after truth

if there's time...

Calling out lack of evidence on r/conspiracy constitutes being a dick? This thread is making me lose any remaining hope I have for this sub

No, he was calling the OP a liar. That's dickish. Especially without evidence of the OP being dishonest.

There was no need for that attack IMHO.

Depends on the type of environment y'all want around here.

Well it appears the environment around here is believe whatever stories that fits your ideologies regardless of whether there's ANY evidence at all. That's not what I want it to be but I appear to be outnumbered. And while /u/Dumbledore says did imply OP was lying, he certainly didn't call him a liar. And the emphasis was on how easy that story would be to make up. He should have just pointed it out without that final line though.

Dude, this is a conspiracy sub.

If there were real and true bona-fide evidence for everything that was posted in this sub, how could anything be a conspiracy? It would just be a history sub.

Just chill and enjoy the ride.

Lets wait 5 years and see who was right

Well hollow earth theory states that is where the legendary cities exist. So that and more than likely oil interests, military technology testing etc.

Hollow earth. Pfft!!!!

Everybody knows the Earth's flat and if you dig too far you'll fall through.

And any true flat earth believed understands the world is flat, just the plane we live on is, the misrepresentation of a basic component of the flat earth theory, is what almost makes me believe it...

OY! dig till you fall through the center, then you have to keep digging to get out the other surface.

Flat like your feet, man. /s

What does hollow Earth theory say about P and S waves?

Nothing, and when you bring them up, hollow-Earth theorists go silent.

That admiral Bird guy said their was uranium ore there.

Yeah, something fucky is going on in Antarctica. I definitely agree.

Like what? All we have is a Reddit post, no pictures, physical evidence, nothing.

I have never trusted Emperor penguins.

You mean lizard people in bird suits? That's what they really are. Some guy on the street told me, and I believe him.

The Emperor penguins are from the Ten Tribes of Israel. They discarded the Torah and follow traditions of birds.

Empoleon was pretty strong though. Never taught him surf so I had to run 2 water types but meh my Empy would shred.

We don't have any evidence of the contrary...

You mean we don't have any evidence nothing is going on there? Yes we do, we have pictures of nothing going on there. Christ guys, this is insane.

This isn't the only weird post. Are you aware of the other weird things surrounding Antarctica?

So if I make a post saying something like this would you immediately use it as evidence too?

You're dodging the question my friend.

Are you aware of the other weird things surrounding Antarctica?

I had an opinion about it before I even saw this post. Why are you even on this sub if you bother to do no research and are creating this stupid hypothetical?

If you weren't such an idiot I would lead you to some good research, but I will let you learn how to do research on your own.

Such as? Name some, you lizard brained idiot. You have no facts, no evidence, no physical proof, no eye witness, no name, no base, you have nothing. Absolutely nothing. And you will continue to have nothing, because you can't wrap your head around the real world so you have to make up your own fantasies to cope.

Thanks for your well reasoned argument. I entirely understand your viewpoint now.

I sincerely hope so

You just answered your own bullshit. Why is it you think we have no pictures, no evidence? Try and think of something other than...its cold there...there's nothing to see.....

If that were really the case why such strict travel regulations there? Why did the pope and many other influential people visit with no real purpose? People dont go to a freezer with virtually zero inhabitants for sight seeing.....No?

why such strict travel regulations there

It's no countries sovereign soil, and you have to have specialized vehicles to approach and leave.

Why did the pope and many other influential people visit with no real purpose

Because they're allowed to enjoy themselves

People don't go to a freezer with virtually zero inhabitants for sight seeing, no?

Uh, yes actually. It's called tourism. That's the main draw of going there, my physics teacher actually got married in Antarctica, he described it as the most beautiful place he's ever seen.

Let's use your logic for, say, Cruise Liners.

People don't go into a bathtub for no reason, no?

The answer is tourism.

Or Australia.

People don't go into an oven for no reason, no?

The answer is tourism.

Also, technically Antarctica has zero permanent inhabitants. It's only weather and research scientists. "Oh sure that's what they tell you, why would a research scientist want to go to Antarctica?" Virtually no light pollution, and the closest area to the outer atmosphere.

There are tons of pictures and stories including admiral byrds Chilean interview, so that simply demolishes your fake fact statement of there being "nothing" and "no evidence". With this cliche parroted moronic argument of "no evidence" I usually find mountains of evidence. Just like with UFO's. There are literally hundreds of pilots who've come out and been suppressed. You might be new here so having cognitive dissonance because of the msm narrative is reasonable as it is traumatic, the depths of trust that have been broken really show the depths of contortions caused by them in the mind. Gotlta love mk ultra, the western male sperm rate down 50%, and the fact they're fucking with our hormones pretty obviously through atrazine, and you see the spike in transgender, Only in western civilisations, Monsanto funding most agricultural departments and defaming/firing anyone who speaks out against Go's etc etc etc. Lol and that's just physically!

"There's something going on in Antarctica, it's just like the UFO's." Yes, excellent way to bring credibility to your argument, so, where's the pictures?

The real Vegas.

Might explain why the Russian Pope went down there. They're probably hiding something with the church down there, but what?

Orthodox pope, but yea fishy stuff down there.

Yeah a whole lot of fish down there

They're probably hiding something with the church down there, but what?

The world's largest frozen pizza.

Probably the real pope.

Christianity totally made up so they're all fake

Not so. Maybe what you see in the vatican is made up. But there is a rabbit hole that leads you out of the cave.

gfs uncle was a pilot, says a US Air Force pilot, I think, told him 911 was an inside job--or something

I had a customer (I'm an airport bartender) who said his neighbor is a tour guide for people at the north and south poles. He said that many of her clients are wealthy Chinese and that they take them to a semi remote location first to see if they can handle it. He wasn't even talking to me, I just over heard it and got excited when they mentioned the poles.... I'm sorry this reply doesn't add much.

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What part of Antarctica? I went there and I am confused at what people think is going on?

What part did you go to? As a tourist or for work?

It's tall tales like this, backed up by nothing, that make me really miss the old /r/conspiracy .

do need to show proof tho

Isn't it weird that people don't understand that anecdotal evidence is still evidence. Doesn't mean you have to believe it.

It's only evidence that the person telling the story believes it happened (unless he is deliberately prevaricating and/or confabulating . Anecdotal "evidence" isn't worth the paper it's written on.

Name one thing to gain

15 minutes of fame. The unquestioning obedience of thousands of ditto-heads feeding your megalomaniac complex. Disinformation campaign. I could go on, and on. And since you have provided exactly zero evidence that this encounter ever took place, I can call you a liar with impunity.

At they very least you are the type to believe any story you hear blindly, but I'm leaning towards agreeing with /u/magenta_placenta .

I'll bite though. Attention, ego, karma. The same reason anybody mass posts anything (I should know)

Down there making sure the new age religious artifacts were gonna find, look legit enough to change the worlds story.

Honestly, I have zero reason to believe this or anything about it.

You mean this random guy online could be lying to us?

Do you really think someone would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies?

Haha did you just make that up I've never seen someone say that line before.

Do you really think that line hasnt been written before? Or are you just here to do whatever? Haha!

No actually I invented it.

He should have called himself Antarticanon and posted it on 4chan with a date prediction for full disclosure.

T-t-t--t-t-t-t-t--t-t-Thats All folks!!

Yeah I feel like this would be better suited for a sub about conspiracies.... Odd...

As someone that comes from Russia, that kind of thing isn't uncommon in the distant areas of Russia.

I know Russia has also been making grabs at the birth sea and Antarctic region since there have been prospects of drilling oil. Wouldn't be surprised if they were prospecting.

Well there is apparently a ban on the exploitation for resources in Antarctica that is supposed to expire or at least change in 2048. Not only are major world leaders trying to position themselves to take advantage of this by positioning themselves to capitalize after it expires, but also satellite monitoring outpost and a ton of research happens there.

What a load of crap. Who gave him this bag of money and what customs officer (in what countries) did they bribe? BS.

Russians ey?

Flimsy story. Proof of nothing. I was a taxi driver and I found myself exaggerating stories when I was in a mischievous mood. I exspecialy exaggerated whenever I had ultra religious or sheltered JusticeChannel housewives asking me stupid ignorant judgemental questions about Societies Stereotypical night life

Is this nosleep?

The stories are worse there

Yeah... No, i don't believe you.

Nonono, this totally happened. When they had a successful takeoff everyone in Antarctica clapped. Oh and that mysterious pilot who recruited a guy with no arctic experience to be his co-pilot to Antarctica? Albert Flinestein.

Where is the Nazi base Neuscwabenland? Where is the entrance to the "inner earth" ?? LOL this is such BS.

One thing we can agree on is that the most wealthy and poweful criminal enterprises have had their influence reach many people and ruin a lot of lives. Russian mobsters and any other groups are in that position because they are smart enough to remain hidden.

regular people can go to antartica on cruises and stuff to see icebergs and penguins

Anything come up about Bouvet Island? http://allnewspipeline.com/images/norse2.jpg

From what I understand everyone who leaves Antarctica is quarantined for a while in case they caught some ancient disease.

I love Antartica conspiracies but this post is wack. What is interesting though is how this post has climbed without any substance..... hmmmm.....

Substance? Proof? Evidence?

Do you even know what subreddit you're on?

[ citation needed ]

LARP

lol, someones been smoking too much good stuff.

Speaking of the Russian Mafia, I remember someone saying that the Flat Earth theory is actually being ran by a Russian Intelligence, and not NASA or CIA.

flat earth anyone???

Tessellation.

Antarctica ... interesting ... it's almost like that continent never even actually existed in my consciousness as something real where you can travel. You hear a lot about the North Pole, but South Pole? Hmm! I am intrigued now.

So much crazy in this thread.

Just one more reason Antarctica is falling apart: fat Russian mobsters.

Global vodka warming.

If he gave all the money he had left to that mobster, how did they bribe their way back home?

Don't forget OP Russian mafia is really the Jew mafia the global banking cartel Zionist , since the Czars were killed. Even the American Italian mafia had deep ties to the ((Vatican))

Did everyone know the US had a nuclear reactor on Antarctica?

Thing is, Russians have their own separate Antarctica base. So if anything odd or crazy is going on there, it's not happening at the base run by U.S. and western countries. They're also almost on other sides of the continent.

Still it'd be interesting to hear some stories about it.

Why would any plane ever stop over in Antarctica?

Have you ever seen a map. It would be way out of the way to go there, no matter where you are traveling. Besides because of the harsh environment planes need to be equipped with special surveillance equipment to fly in such a region, something that is not standard on any commercial airline.

So your story seem Shady.

Just so happens, the guy flew to Antarctica one time. He went there with a friend that needed an extra pilot so they could drop off some supplies. On the way there, he told me they were given only a sack of money to bribe every customs officer, as the flight there is ridiculously long, so they had to stop in a few places along the way.

Connecting flights aren't subject to customs. You're lying.

People can just go there themselves and check it out:

https://www.polar-quest.com/trips/antarctica

Sure they can but they are very limited in where they can go and what they can look at. It's a guided tour. I mean people can also visit North Korea, doesn't mean it's a nice place or they have nothing to hide.

Go there, see if you have to "bribe every customs officer" on the way ... easy to determine whether OPs story is valid in any sense.

I don't even care about the validity of the story but you can't just go there and wander off to where you want. Probably because of litigation reasons or safety. Is what I'm saying.

Antarctica could serve one purpose. The modern day equivalent of Jekyll Island.

Back during the early 20th century, a bunch of rich fucks got together to make their plans to implement the Federal Reserve. They met at a place called Jekyll Island. Why?

Because they were so rich and powerful, if people saw them meeting for a whole week the rumors/suspicions would have been flying.

If you think about Antarctica:

• Limited physical access.

• No civilians.

• 100% of communications are controlled. No cellphones and no landlines. If anyone has internet, it must be just a few computers working on satellite.

• No customs or national borders to cross.

So a bunch of important people could go there and have meetings in as close to absolute secrecy as possible.

One other possibility that I'll just throw out there. There is one unique environmental factor that is present nowhere else. Antarctica is where the south magnetic pole is located.

So you have the strongest south magnetic field combined with whatever else has some interesting effects on the human body... or perhaps on human mental function?

In plain English, if you hang around at the South Pole long enough, you start getting smarter. If this was true, a civilization located in Antarctica would be the most advanced one in the world.

It's a bit of a stretch. But if that was true, it would explain Nazis/Neuschwabenland, Operation High Jump, all the secrecy and limited access etc.

There is no evidence, just the story it's self. It might be true, or made up. But it's an interesting story.

But, if planes were to go over Antarctica penguins would flee their homes, causing a bunch of penguins and arctic animals dieing in the wild. This theories can be debunked by a quick google search.

No shit our devices don't interfere with any devices. How does that make any sense? Never did. I always use hen anyway and nothing happens.

Haha, that last fact is as sad as it is glorious. I've stumbled across a TV segment some day that showed the life of a pilot, and he too said that every pilot fucks their flight attendants, virtually without exception (except for the pilot they interviewed of course, he was a married man after all ;-))

I suspect that Barium, Strontium, and Aluminium (among other materials) are being added to the Jet fuel itself on specific days, in specific large airports. It would only really require a relatively small organization to oversee such a program (even on a global scale), and those involved could largely be oblivious to it too. Those who have to know are selected based on their readiness to do anything to "save the planet" and told it's all to stop global warming. I believe shill-farms work exactly the same, only that even fewer people would realize what they are really doing when all they do is they with jet fuel, rather than people who get paid to drive other people nuts and manufacture a consent.

The only thing a pilot might notice would be a slight variance in fuel efficiency (either up or down), and if they're old enough they may silently wonder if contrails really were equally thick and persistent in the 80's or 90's as they are now.

I say I suspect these things because to say I believe these things would be reasoning from a conclusion. With the starting premise of chemtrails being real and everywhere, I considered how such a feat might potentially be possible.

Adding the stuff to the fuel seems to be the most logical option. We used to add lead to gasoline to increase burn efficiency until we noticed the ill effects it had on the people and the environment. I think at least this time it's added on purpose. Not necessarily to harm people directly, but for reasons of further control, this time of the weather and thereby all of nature.

For those who make those decisions, though, a few hundred thousand additional avoidable deaths a year, as well as sickness and further collective retardation are a worthy cost in exchange for more control and power.

Sorry, that turned into a rant. I'm not fully convinced that chemtrails are real, but I can see how it might all fit a bigger picture.

They don't want laptops flying around the cabin when they have to abort a take-off, or have a rough landing.

Plus, devices and their associated bags can impede a rapid exit.

Almost all crashes occur during take-off or approach. It's pretty rare for a plane's front to fall off mid-flight, although it does happen.

That your devices do not interact with the planes electronics. They only say that so you'll have more attention for take off and landing.

I figured that rule was so we didn't figure out the 9/11 calls ("Let's roll") were 100% bullshit.

Yeah and they barley if at all go inland on those. But good try I'm talking about the 50k flights that bring you to camps.

https://oceanwide-expeditions.com/antarctica/cruises/pla28-18-antarctic-peninsula

show proof

Eh, at this point the reality has taken on many of the colors of the picture they've been painting it as, has it not?

which religious leader other than Kirill? I only know of him, religiously. Of course other important people have been going there, including John Kerry around election day, weird.

ooh, that guy is interesting, I'll read that now. Thanks for the link.

fricking awesome. thank you.

Planes do not fly with radar. You're full of shit.

Commercial and military aircraft have short range weather radar.

Now you are moving the goalpost. Before it was extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Now its surprising claims require extraordinary evidence. If you told me a cop killed your dog I wouldn't be surprised, but I would ask for evidence before condemning the cop. How is it well known that Russia has a vested interest in Antarctica, or do you mean it's a well known conspiracy theory. And when you use 'Russia' in that sense do you mean the Russian government or the Russian mafia. And even if you claim they are one and the same, wouldn't they at least want to keep up appearances that they aren't. None of it may be surprising but it certainly should have some evidence before taken seriously

what airline was this if you don't mind answering? often see AA, UA, and DL crews arriving in same van and signing in to hotel together. would suck to work for an airline that doesn't trust their employees.

There is no gate.

I don't even care about the validity of the story but you can't just go there and wander off to where you want. Probably because of litigation reasons or safety. Is what I'm saying.

Let me quote the post you obviously didnt read.

"Something that is biologically immortal can die from disease or accidents, something that is immortal cannot die or be killed period."