What topic should we discuss for the next /r/conspiracy Round Table?
61 2017-07-07 by axolotl_peyotl
In case you missed it, here's the previous Round Table discussion on Gnosticism, the Archons and the Demiurge .
Also, check out the last suggestion thread for more ideas.
Remember, put an emphasis on the fringiest and most esoteric topics.
The wide-eyed, high octane speculation is what has always made this sub unique and great!
127 comments
n/a time_stop2 2017-07-07
Perhaps aliens, reptilians, greys, secret tech, blue beam, things along those lines. I loved the discussions we had in the last one! Great idea to have these.
n/a 1-800-GOFUCKYOURSELF 2017-07-07
Was going to suggest we discuss space anomalies, our "achievements", evidence of alien intervention etc etc...
n/a time_stop2 2017-07-07
For sure something like that would be great! Space/Extraterrestrial related. That is what I was trying to get at:)
n/a 1-800-GOFUCKYOURSELF 2017-07-07
Lets do it!
n/a HiveNoGears 2017-07-07
That thread awhile ago alleging that the Mars rover was actually in northern Canada was pretty sweet.
n/a a_trashcan 2017-07-07
Really fits with the recent us space corps news
n/a Ickyfist 2017-07-07
Greys? I haven't heard of that.
n/a time_stop2 2017-07-07
Little grey men from outer space? The greys, big head, big black eyes, no ears (just holes), small maybe 3 feet tall. Roswell aliens, MAJESTIC-12 stuff.
n/a Ickyfist 2017-07-07
Ah okay. I guess I'd never heard of them specifically called greys before and you had already said aliens so I was confused.
n/a foxglovefairy 2017-07-07
Yes. A discussion on aliens is needed right now. It would be very relevant with that Anonymous video floating around.
n/a time_stop2 2017-07-07
Oh what I haven't seen that, can you link it please?
n/a foxglovefairy 2017-07-07
https://youtu.be/7JAx1Ob_P_s I'm on kindle so not sure if this works. NASA has released statements saying that they do not have an announcement planned and do not have evidence of ETs. Not very surprising though. I live in a very rural area (10 miles away from a town with a population of <2000 and 100 miles away from next biggest town) and let me tell you... some very unsettling stuff is going on in the skies out here. I'm a very rational person but I've been seeing unexplainable things almost every night and I'm actually planning on moving partly because of it.
n/a Vigte 2017-07-07
How Hobby Lobby might be a front for importing the artifacts (Mainly story-telling cylinder seals) from Iraqi museums: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/nyregion/hobby-lobby-artifacts-smuggle-iraq.html
What is in our history that they just have to cover up so badly - that they are even caught planting FAKE artifacts to construct some kind of ET narrative while destroying all religions? Well, all religions except the ONE that can say "we told you so" when the aliens come: Scientology.
Look it up, they're bigger than you would imagine: L Ron Hubbard/Jack Parsons/Aliester Crowley... in the worlds of Hubbard's own son, after visiting Crowley to be with him when he died: "He didn't worship the devil, he thought he WAS the devil."
A mantle, passed down between the ages/organizations of Mystery Babylon?
n/a EagleOfAmerica 2017-07-07
I'm just gonna leave this here.
n/a Evil1tx 2017-07-07
The latest episode of Leak Project tackles this... It's sort of odd, I read this post, then an hour later here they are talking about this exact subject... I came to tell you.
n/a Tecumsehs_Revenge 2017-07-07
How bout a serious discussion on banning all recent news links for a month? Then we can get back to the good old days, while they burn other subs down?
RIP Bigfoot, Greys and a JFK chaser. :,(
n/a axolotl_peyotl 2017-07-07
Slippery slope, IMO.
The upvote is a powerful tool...go out of your way to support original content, especially the occult and esoteric!
n/a jcash21 2017-07-07
Very slippery. As nice as it would be to remove stuff that I personally know is posted to get out goat, that would be the beginning of the end for r/conspiracy
n/a TrumpRusConspiracy 2017-07-07
I vote for every link from all sources that to be archived.
n/a EagleOfAmerica 2017-07-07
That's a good idea. I'm so sick of people posting about whatever hot news item came up, when 99% of it is controlled-narrative bullshit.
n/a crisisACTOR4HOAX 2017-07-07
How bout the dozens of fake mass shootings... Orlando.. Cough
n/a The_gray_ghost 2017-07-07
We can't forget sandy hook and the Boston bombing
n/a d3rr 2017-07-07
San Bernadino
n/a usernamenn 2017-07-07
Is magic real? A lot of very influential people in our history practiced it, people who we deem the creators of science, art etc.
And if it's not real, why is it so pervasive in media today? Why are walt disney films full of magical themes, shown in a positive light? Especially when one of his ancestors was executed for witchcraft?
Covers a broad spectrum of discussion such as santeria, voodoo etc
n/a The_gray_ghost 2017-07-07
Which one of Walt disney's ancestors was executed for witchcraft?
n/a Pologrounds 2017-07-07
I'll bite. Which one?
n/a usernamenn 2017-07-07
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Burroughs
https://famouskin.com/famous-kin-menu.php?name=11991+george+burroughs
n/a Pologrounds 2017-07-07
Nice, thanks.
n/a usernamenn 2017-07-07
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Burroughs
https://famouskin.com/famous-kin-menu.php?name=11991+george+burroughs
n/a mistahbang 2017-07-07
It depends on your definition of magic. I would say NLP (Neuro linguistics programming), hypnosis, subliminal messaging are all forms of "magic." They are hidden and go unnoticed yet have an influence or "spell" over the world and brainwashes people. Only a handful of people have mastered all of these techniques and you bet your ass Hollywood and MSM are one of them
n/a mistahbang 2017-07-07
One important thing we could discuss or have this sub do is look through MSM videos and identify the use of NLP that is prevalent throughout their interviews of people who wish to express the truth or in general. They use a lot of coded language and linguistics to trick their viewers into thinking a certain way
n/a usernamenn 2017-07-07
All that would fall under the category i am thinking of, yes. As I said, it's broad discussion to be had, many people would focus on the 'scientific' side of things while others would approach the traditional view of summoning, curses etc.
Not neccessary to believe to take part in the discussion of course.
n/a codaclouds 2017-07-07
Antarctica.
n/a BinLeenk 2017-07-07
Second!
n/a TheRadChad 2017-07-07
yes
n/a TheGayMafia 2017-07-07
1) The idea that estrogenic chemicals were deliberately added to food and other products to make people more feminine. A testosterone-fueled population is one that will rebel (and reproduce), and they can't have that.
2: Occult Symbols in Corporate Logos. Why are so many logos variations or combinations of the winged sun disk, the planet Saturn, the sun, the Vesica Piscis, an eyeball, and a pyramid with all-seeing eye?
The winged sun disk is mainly found in car manufacturer logos. Search duckduckgo/google images for "winged sun disk logo" or see this article: https://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/occult-symbols-in-corporate-logos-pt-1/
That link also includes examples of the vesica piscis, which is found in a wide range of logos, including mastercard, kool cigarettes, Audi, etc. Also try image searching for "vesica piscis logo."
The air force is a winged sun disk: http://imgur.com/a/j35i7
The planet Saturn: Nike, Triple A, Saturn (car manufacturer), Direct TV, Sega Saturn, Internet Explorer, Bud Light, Capital One, Toyota, Nissan, Dish Network, Comcast, Pepsi, and many others use Saturn as their logo. See for yourself: http://imgur.com/a/JsOm9
Media companies, like Time Warner cable, CBS, AOL, and Lucas Arts have eyeballs or all-seeing eyes as their logos. The "Information Awareness Office" and the office of Naval Intelligence have all-seeing eyes as well: http://imgur.com/a/ZcJsi
You can also see a lot of this same symbolism by looking at old logos. ABC's old logo was a winged sun disk: http://logos.wikia.com/wiki/ABC_(United_States)
You may have noticed I said nothing about Dodge cars. It's just a picture of an animal. Think again: http://imgur.com/a/d2Csz
The double cross: Double Cross vodka, Exxon, and nabisco: http://imgur.com/a/19bLR
Many of these are combinations of these themes. As an example, the Chrysler logo is a winged sub disk with a eye in the center.
The thing they all have in common is that they are all occult symbols. Look up the meaning behind the winged sun disk, the vesica pisces, the all-seeing eye (eye of horus), etc.
n/a Mike_McDermott 2017-07-07
I like this guys ideas!
n/a usernamenn 2017-07-07
I like the occult suggestion. Lots of good material there.
n/a Adastra_plusultra 2017-07-07
Shills, bots and astroturfing
n/a loserofpasswordzz 2017-07-07
Oh man, that would probably be this subs most active thread ever
n/a Mike_McDermott 2017-07-07
Id like to talk about the theory that the Vatican has one nuke to use for self destruction and to prevent humanity from learning the truth and learning about what the Vatican has been up to all these years.
n/a g3374r2d2 2017-07-07
Pretty sure that was someone's fictional concoction.
n/a loserofpasswordzz 2017-07-07
I wanna know what's in the library. Could reveal an entirely different history, or could be copies of the Alexandria library!
n/a Pologrounds 2017-07-07
New thread: Let's storm the Vat i can arc hives to see just how powerful the Swiss G u ar d is.
n/a loserofpasswordzz 2017-07-07
Man they probably have some crazy booby traps in the Vatican
n/a Pologrounds 2017-07-07
Yeah. Probably like The DaVinci Code and Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade x 1000
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-07-07
Sleep paralysis. Astral projection. And the conciousness.
n/a Jesuits_hate_spiders 2017-07-07
+1
n/a time_stop2 2017-07-07
This would be great.
n/a eman5oo 2017-07-07
+1 Don't forget Lucid Dreaming
n/a AlvinItchyCock 2017-07-07
Yes lucid dreaming is the key
n/a Flytape 2017-07-07
Hemisync
n/a astralrocker2001 2017-07-07
Hemi Sync is literally the "Grail". Robert Monroe left mankind its greatest gift.
n/a Flytape 2017-07-07
I've had some interesting results.
n/a astralrocker2001 2017-07-07
It looks fascinating. I have heard some incredible stories of people who did it at the Monroe Institute. Are binaural beats the center of the system? It looks like something really worth trying at home.
n/a Flytape 2017-07-07
Yeah some of the video reviews from the Monroe institute seem fake to me. That being said I think it's just a poor attempt at marketing. Here is my disconnect however, I had results meditating without hemisync tones, so I'm not sure if the tones helped me have breakthroughs or if it was just a coincidence that I had breakthroughs while using hemisync tones.
Regardless it's worth experimenting with if you're into meditation and that sort of thing.
n/a Pologrounds 2017-07-07
Would you recommend buying the Hemi-sync audios from The Monroe Institute, or is there a free version(s) that work?
n/a Flytape 2017-07-07
The free versions are numerous and of varying quality but there are definitely some free ones available that work for me.
n/a Pologrounds 2017-07-07
Thanks.
n/a INTELDracula 2017-07-07
I get sleep paralysis what the conspiracy on that?
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-07-07
Spirituality. You ever get entities during your episodes? Last one I got when I did a tolerance break from smoking, a young girl appeared and told me some shit. I panicked, hyperventilated and passed out. She woke me up and told me I was on the wrong path or some shit.
n/a usernamenn 2017-07-07
Do a search on sleep paralysis with the words demons and have a good read. I have experienced this myself.
n/a astralrocker2001 2017-07-07
I have had demons follow me back from the Astral. Last night I was there for hours and something followed me back. It seems if you are there for extended periods perhaps portals or attachments occur. I am laying in bed and this unknown voice starts going "grrrr, hey, blahhh, in this very creepy sinister voice. This has happened a few times, and at this point I know these Astral Parasites actually have no power and seek to horrify their victim. I was extremely exhausted from my Astral Travels and just said "F### OFF", and the being immediately left...
n/a TrowwayFiggenstein 2017-07-07
that's really the best way to handle those buggers.
n/a ToddWhiskey 2017-07-07
That's no conspiracy. Read V.S. Ramachandran, start for example here.
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-07-07
Didn't tell me much. I've experienced sleep paralysis quite a lot when I was younger (but I smoke weed so I don't get it anymore.) It's fucked up shit (especially when you have entities talking to you.)
I don't know why you are so certain there is no conspiracy. I've had a shared dream with someone 6 months ago. There is something more to REM cycles and sleep. Nostradamus used meditation / sleep paralysis to do his work.
n/a Boatsmhoes 2017-07-07
Throw in sound too like 110hz sound and I will be in
n/a mistahbang 2017-07-07
I highly advise people concerned with consciousness to read the book "The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" by Julian Jaynes.
n/a linkdead56k 2017-07-07
Absolutely this. When I moved in with my uncle years ago for a stint I was very much into lucid dreaming. Was able to do it nearly nightly.
Sleep paralysis was the most intense part of it. The feeling of someone walking on my bed...rotating me in circles....weird as hell...
At one point I had an out of body experience.
n/a ready-ignite 2017-07-07
Go back and revisit every politician who repeated the retracted '17 intelligence agencies agree Russia hacked the [2016] election' claim. Identify instances where the politician held proper clearances to fact-check but repeated the claim anyway. Would be interesting to identify patterns, and try to discern whether there are any frames in those videos where the reptillian becomes visible.
n/a TrumpRusConspiracy 2017-07-07
Four of the top intelligence agencies did confirm it, correct?
n/a ready-ignite 2017-07-07
Still wrong. Three agencies assembled a panel in significant departure from the usual process issues of this nature are investigated and information shared. The fourth is an umbrella agency covering the three that had no role in the matter.
Although I was impressed the coast guard was looking deeply into Russian ties. They really do it all.
n/a Flytape 2017-07-07
I was under the impression that the coast guard does in fact have a cyber action command.
n/a TrumpRusConspiracy 2017-07-07
It was the FBI, CIA, NSA, and the DNI. The rest of the intelligence agencies were and are not part of the investigation.
n/a EagleOfAmerica 2017-07-07
No. Nothing has been confirmed in any way.
n/a TrumpRusConspiracy 2017-07-07
They all confirmed 100% that Russia did interfere with the election.
n/a EagleOfAmerica 2017-07-07
They SAID Russia interfered in the election. CONFIRMED has an entirely different meaning that is not appropriate to blind reliance on the words of another.
n/a TrumpRusConspiracy 2017-07-07
No. They did confirm it. Read the transcripts of the intelligence hearings or watch them.
n/a EagleOfAmerica 2017-07-07
The revelations of High Level Insider
n/a Chokaholic 2017-07-07
Make that 2 votes for the HLI.
n/a mistahbang 2017-07-07
From all the so called High Level insiders or FBI anons, or whatever else there was, this guy had the most substantial practical information that was easily digestible. Highly recommended for everyone in this sub to read and check him out. Definitely set me on the right path in terms of spiritual awakening as well as understanding how to be solution based in a world that needs to change.
n/a CitationDependent 2017-07-07
Foundations
n/a LetsSmashStacks 2017-07-07
MKULTRA, related projects both foreign and domestic, and the continuation of an MKULTRA-like program.
n/a TrumpRusConspiracy 2017-07-07
How about a confirmed conspiracy from the confirmed list?
n/a EagleOfAmerica 2017-07-07
This should always be the focus.
n/a TrumpRusConspiracy 2017-07-07
Yeah, I've been planning on delving into them eventually. Some of them seem pretty cool or interesting to learn about.
n/a lavaflower 2017-07-07
Intelligence organizations promoting pedophiles in order to control them with blackmail. Nothing else matters.
n/a d8_thc 2017-07-07
Holographic Universe theory and it's implications for morphic resonance, collective consciousness and noosphere architecting by the elite.
n/a astralrocker2001 2017-07-07
It is all Holographic. Matter does not exist.
n/a Evil1tx 2017-07-07
In the immoral words of Bill Hicks "It's just a ride.".
n/a mistahbang 2017-07-07
I love how this sub is slowly transitioning from identifying the conspiracies of politics to understanding the higher level of consciousness that actually runs and influences the world. We are on the right track. Can't wait to see how far we go a year from now.
n/a bozobozo 2017-07-07
Military industrial congressional complex.
n/a Quasimandias 2017-07-07
Atlantis/Lemuria
Hidden Physics/Science/History
Mystery Schools/Ancient Knowledge
Great minds throughout time (Pythagoras, Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Al Biruni, Khayyam, Copernicus, Shakespeare, Leibnitz, Newton, Descartes, Euler, Planck, Dostoyevsky, Tesla, Einstein, Huxley, Gödel, Sagan, Kubrick, etc.)
Origin of Religion
n/a Outofmany 2017-07-07
I think we should tackle some of the issues raised on Skepiko, which is one of my favorite podcasts. It started out as an inquiry into psychic research from a scientific stand point and became a crique of the modern scientific establishment as covering up evidence of the paranormal. http://skeptiko.com
I can't point to anything specific off the top of my head but a lot of these researchers have actual science that is obviously being swept under the rug. Quite worthwhile to dig into.
n/a Nutricidal 2017-07-07
Go old school. The Denver airport murals.
n/a loserofpasswordzz 2017-07-07
DUMBS under that airport too allegedly
n/a RiggedITdotCOM 2017-07-07
Nephilim
n/a astralrocker2001 2017-07-07
also known as third dimensional thugs who were directly working for the 4d "Archon Hierachy"
n/a Kind_Of_A_Dick 2017-07-07
Vimanas. I've heard the Vedas had some interesting things to say about technologies, some texts even describing them in great detail. I never know why they're not brought up more often when discussing ancient technology.
n/a astralrocker2001 2017-07-07
they had an advanced culture and ufo craft. the elite have hidden it from us all
n/a cnewell619 2017-07-07
Clones!
n/a skinny_reminder 2017-07-07
UFOs and former MI Congressman and US President Gerald Ford set up by the deep state to be Manchurian candidate.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/features/the-michigan-ufo-craze-of-1966
n/a loserofpasswordzz 2017-07-07
We need to discuss bluebeam. vOTL twitter is going ham. We should try to investigate if this is the bluebeam plan or if this is a genuine resistance starting to form
n/a ToddWhiskey 2017-07-07
This.
n/a aLiEn23ViSiToR 2017-07-07
n/a libertyant 2017-07-07
Something about Babylon? Perhaps to what extent where there survivors and do they have current impact on world? Sorry can't be more precise just generally really interested in that period historically
n/a CivilianConsumer 2017-07-07
All sound great. I think a lot of people could expand their knowledge hearing about Antarctica/Hollow Earth. The subject gets us thinking outside the box, regardless whether or not it's factual or fantasy.
Notice I said hollow earth...NOT flat earth. There's a big difference between the two topics.
n/a haveyouseenmymarble 2017-07-07
All good topics already. One central theme I would like to have discussed more often here is the merits or flaws of the overpopulation myth.
Are we overpopulated or simply poorly managed? What factors really play a role in maintaining or growing a population? How does food supply fit that picture?
Much of what we talk about here is directly tied to population control. Do the elites have a point in their panic about overpopulation or are they truly as deluded as they claim that we are?
n/a Pologrounds 2017-07-07
A good resource about the facade of overpopulation (in a way), is the book Abundance, by Peter Diamandis. Over-population is a myth created by the Club of Time, in my opinion. Solutions for abundance for all of mankind abound.
n/a 0toa100 2017-07-07
Overpopulation is a myth? Look around you. Do you see anything besides concrete and other humans? Me neither. I wonder if King Crabs think they're just 'poorly mamaged' too.
n/a Pologrounds 2017-07-07
Take an Amtrak train ride across New York State from Manhattan to Buffalo and see how much empty land there is. Drive on Interstate 84 through Pennsylvania and look at how much open space there is. Drive outside of a major city, look around at all of the space and farmland, and then come back and tell me that overpulation is an actual problem.
n/a 0toa100 2017-07-07
Lmao so you're saying overpopulation wont be a problem until every sqhare inch on this planet is coveted in concrete?
n/a Pologrounds 2017-07-07
Sure pal. So because maybe you lucked out and bought an acre of property, Charlie Chan over in China living in a cubby hole in Beijing should have restrictions on whether he can procreate because of.....fear of overpopulation?
This fear propaganda is just that. Think of rural land in middle America. Where is the threat of overpopulation there?
n/a 0toa100 2017-07-07
Rural land in middle America is 90% agricultural space to support our overpopulated planet. Our forests are disappearing, fish stocks are depleted, species are dying out, all because we have way too many humans consuming way too much.
And of course, someone always thinks the answer is "well we just need to consume less!" Which is about as brilliant as suggesting that king crabs ravaging our coastlines should just eat less and they'll be fine.
And there's no need for restrictions on procreation. Mother nature has already enrolled us in her depopulation program. Climate change and war will cull humanity.
n/a Pologrounds 2017-07-07
What depopulation program does Mother Nature have planned for a human culling?
n/a 0toa100 2017-07-07
Climate change.
n/a ToddWhiskey 2017-07-07
Peter Diamandis is bubbling with optimism indeed.
n/a ToddWhiskey 2017-07-07
A very important topic. Seconded.
n/a -ghost-in-the-shell- 2017-07-07
Moon bases, Agartha.
n/a Orangutan 2017-07-07
Let's just further alienate and discredit ourselves by continually highlighting topics such as flat earth, big foot, ufo's, and space beams until any honest investigative journalism we do gets mixed in and laughed off.
I suggest currency alternatives, assassinations, alternative energy, and election fraud as some good topics that might help us move ahead in a better direction as a society.
Alex Jones does well enough as it is in pushing the mainstream populace against any type of genuine honest investigative journalism by making it look fringe and outlandish with his persona.
n/a TheRadChad 2017-07-07
Idk if you've known about Jones for a long time, you know how to take his info.
n/a -ghost-in-the-shell- 2017-07-07
I don't believe this but how about the creepy belief in Mexico about "lechusas", witches that turn themselves into owls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCO-J9L_jvs
n/a astralrocker2001 2017-07-07
These threads are really bringing up some incredible arcane esoteric ideas. Many thanks to those who present this thread and its contributions :)
n/a Boatsmhoes 2017-07-07
Water turning the frogs gay
n/a seerweaver 2017-07-07
USAP'S!
n/a d3rr 2017-07-07
The moderation philosophy of /r/conspiracy . Specifically how moderators were chosen last time after community voting, and whether or not we should be creating a "safe space" with so many rules.
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-07-07
I have a hard time going wide eyed or fringy... by lemme see what I can think up... Hmmmmm... Iodized Salt? Seems like there should be some conspiracy with that. Or... crop circles? I'm really bad at thinking up the esoteric stuff I guess... Though I did make a topic one time linking pizzagate to 9/11... and another linking Scientology to MKUltra...
I'd really like to see a few folks dig into Scientology with any viewpoint other than "They are just a terrible cult that wants to steal people's money." Speculating anything else would certainly be esoteric, I guess.
n/a d3rr 2017-07-07
Israel messed up their desalination and deprived citizens of iodine. Very negative effects, people seem to think IQ was affected. http://www.haaretz.com/science-and-health/1.779776
n/a RadioCar 2017-07-07
Hey talk about this? (SOSUS) Blue 🐋
n/a LunchNap 2017-07-07
Svali, and the "families" There is always discussion of the top (Rothschilds, etc.) but nothing of the middle management and foot soldiers.
I imagine Newton, Connecticut was an entire city made up of them.
n/a Jukecrim7 2017-07-07
Solar Warden or Philadelphia Experiment!
n/a TheCrazyChristian 2017-07-07
Revelation 12 and September, 2017
n/a redditarmyxxx 2017-07-07
Why would the government hide alien life ? I'm not big on aliens theory though don't really believe it.
n/a blvsh 2017-07-07
Lost islands such as Mu
n/a quivondarkh 2017-07-07
The last one was really really good, looking forward to the next one.
Cheers!!!
n/a Beneficial1 2017-07-07
Let's discuss the ball earth model that was first theorized before planes and cameras, and whether or not that theory holds water today.
n/a time_stop2 2017-07-07
Little grey men from outer space? The greys, big head, big black eyes, no ears (just holes), small maybe 3 feet tall. Roswell aliens, MAJESTIC-12 stuff.
n/a astralrocker2001 2017-07-07
It is all Holographic. Matter does not exist.
n/a mistahbang 2017-07-07
I love how this sub is slowly transitioning from identifying the conspiracies of politics to understanding the higher level of consciousness that actually runs and influences the world. We are on the right track. Can't wait to see how far we go a year from now.
n/a d3rr 2017-07-07
Israel messed up their desalination and deprived citizens of iodine. Very negative effects, people seem to think IQ was affected. http://www.haaretz.com/science-and-health/1.779776