How do people think Pope Francis wasn't involved
77 2017-07-05 by lucasmcn96
Vatican rocked: Police raid drug-fuelled gay orgy at cardinal's apartment https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/6lbp91/vatican_rocked_police_raid_drugfuelled_gay_orgy/ JIMMY SAville is sick The bishops are sick Clearly as a society we appreciate pedophiles
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n/a gerryn 2017-07-05
Reddit fucking loves the pope, get ready for downvotes...
n/a EnclaveHunter 2017-07-05
It's one single source.
n/a EricCarver 2017-07-05
The thread was interesting. They flailed it with 'misleading title' yet no one disputes the points that it was a gay orgy of religious people. Maybe using the 'Vatican rocked' part?
As a few comments said, they were relieved to see no children were part of the orgy.
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-05
I think because this a matter of the Vatican the pope is aware of gay orgies with his clergy, this could be a group of frustrated priests but by doing this they go against what they stand for .. fuck the hypocritical hierarchies of our time
n/a EricCarver 2017-07-05
I grew up catholic and at a young age, I always felt it seemed reasonable they should be allowed to marry. Then as a teen I met a friend that was Methodist, and had a married pastor with kids owned a house and a dog... and I got to say the pastor looked happy and satisfied, unlike the brothers and priests I was familiar with.
You could be right, we will never know... might be an unspoken acceptance to spill seed in each other behind closed doors. Guesssing the drug thing was unsanctioned.
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-05
Ik where your coming from, i am against making the world accept gay people, most of them are great but I don't want them around my kids
n/a IndigoMD 2017-07-05
Wtf... I hope your ready for that karma man, your son gon be catching the rest of his life, your daughter is just going to have boring sex the rest of her life.
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-05
Right because having an opinion against a group of people is literally murder
n/a IndigoMD 2017-07-05
If that's how you connected the dots then that says more about you than me.
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-05
What does that say about me?
n/a IndigoMD 2017-07-05
You're a extremists speaking in absolute's you would of never made it as a jedi, and probably would of died during training if you tried to be a sith.
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-05
Your someone who judges other based on their reddit comments, your history shows a lot of god posts, you should know your opinion of me is worthless to me. Star wars fuckin sucks too way over rated it's funny how Rick and Morty dives deeper into sci-fi than Lucasfilms ever could have Watch hidden in plain sight for sacred geometry, direct message me I'll teach you what ik
n/a IndigoMD 2017-07-05
No I judged you based on one rather poor and extreme comment. You're coming off really emotional it wasn't the deep man.
Star wars is dope af comparing it to rick n morty isn't fair for either of them.
Rick and morty is bomb af tho
n/a legend747 2017-07-05
Whats really disturbing about this is the reason priests can't have family is not due to religious notions, but monetary reasons.
n/a EricCarver 2017-07-05
I thought it was a sacrifice to do so, like vow of poverty, vow of chastity, etc. so it is related to money?
n/a legend747 2017-07-05
A friend of my father who is an excommunicated priest told me this. Basically, around the Middle Ages, Catholic priests could marry and have families, which they would give all their possessions to after they died. The church was wary of this and instructed from now on that priests were forbidden to have families, thus all their material items were immediately "donated to the Catholic Church. The rest is history.
n/a eyeluvscotch 2017-07-05
I try and post this every time there is a Vatican Conspiracy. This is all planned to destroy the church from within. Here is a good link to read about this conspiracy: https://thewildvoice.org/is-pope-francis-false-prophet/
n/a ForeignAlphabet 2017-07-05
I think it was tagged as misleading because most people that see the headline assume the cardinal was directly involved, while the article states that the cardinal was not the occupant of the apartment
n/a MASTURBATES_YOUR_DAD 2017-07-05
I don't understand what's misleading - if it was the cardinal's apartment it was the cardinal's apartment.
n/a ForeignAlphabet 2017-07-05
If I see "The cardinals apartment" I automatically assume the cardinal lives there, and subsequently it was an orgy in his home. I'm not saying thats everybodies reaction, but I don't think my viewpoint is uncommon
n/a GambleResponsibly 2017-07-05
Excuse my cynicism but all the articles I could find all use one source, an Italian newspaper ( http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/ ) and personally don't like to put all my faith into such a serious claim when there's no other sources to back it up. Still early days so maybe we will hear a police report in the coming days.
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-05
I'm not as forgiving or maybe I am just an asshole but I'll use any source I can to further the dialogue of how evil the Vatican is
n/a Pologrounds 2017-07-05
Maybe they'll communicate disclosure to take the massive amount of heat off. I mean, things are already getting pretty out of control in the RCC, might as well throw Extra Terrestrials into the mix.
n/a thatshowitlookslike 2017-07-05
he is just another mafia godfather.
n/a atavisticbeast 2017-07-05
WTF does this story have to do with pedophilia?
I mean, it's just about a bunch of priests who decided to all fuck each other and have a good time. Why do you even care?
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-05
Well to the public's eye they are men of faith who shouldn't commit adultery let alone being homosexual, I'm sure there's more to that closet just just guy on guy stuff. I THOUGHT THIS WAS R/CONSPRIACY the Vatican is pedo capital of the world
n/a atavisticbeast 2017-07-05
Just because you are on /r/conspiracy , doesn't mean that you don't need evidence.
If there was ANY indication that this story had anything at all to do with pedo rings or something, I'd love to discuss that.
As it stands, however, it just seems like people are attacking these priests for wanting to get their dicks wet and have a little fun. Personally, I have no problem with that at all.
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-05
And that's fine and dandy if they wanted to get their dicks wet why not step down as a priest
n/a atavisticbeast 2017-07-05
Idk man, I don't care at all about arbitrary rules that the catholic church lays down on it's clergy.
My thought is, why doesn't the church just let priests get their fuck on? Probably be a lot less pedophilia if that were the case.
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-05
I'd agree to that. But then again rules are rules as much as joke people might think the bible is I'd like to think it's the word of the lord
n/a atavisticbeast 2017-07-05
I do not believe in the bible personally, but I think it's important to remember that all the "rules" of being a priest come from the Vatican, not the bible.
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-05
Wow I just figured they were translated from the bible
n/a Parade0fChaos 2017-07-05
You'd be surprised how many modern traditions/teachings of most major religions are truly cherry-picked and bastardized versions of their former selves. "Based in scripture" doesn't mean much anymore.
Partly why organized religion is literal bollocks.
n/a EricCarver 2017-07-05
These are the same people that profess to hate homosexuality, yet they partake. Know how many households and families were torn apart due to them holding onto the homo hate?
Funny story to me was a local pastor that was popular. Southern chap, full of brimstone this and that. His oldest son left home in sin because he was flaming gay, need up dead doing that choking erotica thing, his oldest daughter was a prolific lover of men, had 3 husbands; younger son is on sex offender list for loving a 15 year old girl.
So this whole hate those that are a little different than you seems to be poisonous to those slinging it.
Tl;dr: pious priests should not be hypocrites.
n/a atavisticbeast 2017-07-05
That's a fair point, but I still fail to see the connection to pedophilia.
n/a EricCarver 2017-07-05
Priests aren't known for having pedo problems?
n/a atavisticbeast 2017-07-05
Well of course they are, but nothing about this particular story indicates or implies pedophilia from those involved.
n/a Parade0fChaos 2017-07-05
Not to play sides, but that doesn't have anything to do with the specific article.
There's well-known and factually-supported pedophilia going on in the Catholic church, but I don't think it pertains specifically to this story/scandal.
n/a whatsupconnecticut 2017-07-05
I'm wondering when enough people will come around to the fact that this is a truly evil organization that doesn't believe a word that is said in the bible.
I don't know if satan exists or God, and I have no problem with gays and certainly not any problem with drugs.
My issue, is that these people are pure evil, and I'm really sick of it. They hoard insane wealth, they have access to millions of pages of human history and written word that no one is allowed access to, they fuck kids, they fuck each other, genocide including funding the holocaust.
I don't know if they are satanic, or just sociopaths, but the amount of evidence against the vatican is absolutely staggering.
If God exists, he's in no way a part of the vatican.
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-05
beautifully written
n/a EricCarver 2017-07-05
Until good people stop tithing their 10% pretax wages, I don't see them changing course. They seem focused, as if following prophecy. It is always interesting watching those in elite roles act. You know they know something we don't, and it seems illogical - yet they must know something right?
But what?
n/a whatsupconnecticut 2017-07-05
Well for starters they have access to an entire human history that we don't. Now that doesn't mean it contains the answers, but it sure contains a lot of information.
I feel like one of two options is the winner:
They have access to the so called "truth" of creation, whether it be aliens, a God or God's (same thing as advanced aliens in a humans mind) previous advanced civilizations wiped out by cataclysms etc.
They know it's all complete fucking bullshit, and no one knows anything. All it is, is power and control, religion was the first advertising aka brainwashing campaign, hence why all religions are similar in origin story and can be traced back to earlier and earlier cultures with their own story.
For me the Sumarians have always been one of the more fascinating cultures, their understanding of the solar system and stars cannot be explained, nor their knowledge of the 10th planet, that for hundreds of years was laughed at, and only very recently mainstream science has had to admit that it probably exists.
Also pretty surprising that the Vatican spends so much money on powerful telescopes, you'd think that would be completely unnecessary for those who believe the word of God.
Seems they are looking for something very specific, what that is, we don't know, because they have the books that are telling them what to look for.
n/a EricCarver 2017-07-05
Amazing points my friend. Thanks for replying.
Btw, I am not well versed, but was it the sumerians that said 10th planet would return and with it aliens that use us for food?
And about the vatican's IR telescopes, and to name it Lucifer - seems crazy to this ex catholic boy. But, then it makes me wonder what they know. If something is coming, what do they know will happen? Because if they think they will rapture after being evil just because they invoke the name of Jesus asking to be saved - ugh. Example: if they know they can do fuck all, but only until a certain set of signs is visible. Then time to ask to be saved and live cleanly...
n/a lucasmcn96 2017-07-05
Ik where your coming from, i am against making the world accept gay people, most of them are great but I don't want them around my kids
n/a legend747 2017-07-05
Whats really disturbing about this is the reason priests can't have family is not due to religious notions, but monetary reasons.