There will be a clamor for a return to politics to "normal".

It's controversial but it is also in large measure a valid observation that thinking people need to consider.

I really don't get the Trump circle jerk around these parts.

It's the same people who did the same things online for George W. Bush. Sure, there are a few people who bought into the fraud outsider act, but mostly ... these are just brown shirts.

Militaristic members of the party who support the government and disrupt dissenters.

Yes. The right fails to notice that Trump is motivating an unequal and opposite reaction in the left. Expect a hard liberal shift within the next few years as conservatives fail to recapture his base and liberals vote for anything blue.

This combination of bombastic personality and politics only works when things get done. Trump failing so hard with a stacked deck will only work in liberals' favor. Who knows, maybe he is a useful tool to break the back of this rightward trend before it gets real teeth.

Either way, folks had to be real gullible to vote for an obvious old fraud, all policies aside. We deserve what we get for neglecting critical thinking in so many.

Then looking bad wjns

If your goal was to dismantle a democratic republic wouldn't it be beneficial to make it look like the voters can't be trusted to elect good leaders? So yes I would say Trump is part of the plan and that Voter Integrity Commission headed up and staffed with tea party people intends to eliminate as many voters as possible.

I agree with your points. But are you saying that there would be peace in the Middle East if the US was not involved?

It is worse than making these parties look bad. Trump is central to a deliberate takedown of the US in a six week crisis. This was spelled out by Sergey Glazyev , the key economic aide of Vladimir Putin.

Put down the bong, OP.

We're only one of those things

I'm a Bernie supporter (I do realize anyone can be compromized/blackmailed/restrained/silenced but believe he had good intentions if he's allowed).

I always ALWAYS saw Trump as a conman just as I saw Alex Jones as a conman, trying to make conspiracy theorists look crazy. Now, maybe Trump is just like that (acts a bit....uh....stupid I guess) and maybe I'm wrong to judge him, maybe that's how he really is like....but I tend to think it was an incredibly obvious act. An act to make people think he's harmless or something. Anyway, I don't believe in conservativism, people will react badly to this, but it's an ideology born of the establishment, especially NEOconservativism which is conservativism on steroids.

Conservativism = conserving a low waged population / status quo. People just defend it usually because of the talking points of "freedom/conservative morals and values" and other crap. It's cheap talk from lying politicians. I honestly think it's a scam if you look at conservative policies. Some people get overly offended at my criticism towards conservativism because for some reason, people consider it a cultural thing....but I remind them that it's 100% politics and that you shouldn't be emotional about politics. That opens people up to manipulation.

Sure, some people may be right leaning here and there, but conservativism is generally VERY anti-worker and most people in the U.S. are workers so....you can see why I'm frustrated at how many people think conservativism = good and liberalism = bad.

Even what the corporate media calls "liberal V conservative" is actually the more messed up NEOliberal V NEOconservative crap. And liberal doesn't even mean left wing, technically. Just means it has at least a little left leaning stuff like LGBT rights and so on... So extreme right winger Hillary Clinton is actually a NEOlib and NEOcon but gets away with calling herself a liberal just because of LGBT rights and pro-choice on abortion....still doesn't make her anywhere near left wing/Bernie Sanders like.

Hope I'm making sense. A lot of Christian conservative politicians are dishonest to the people, some aren't even religious men and pretend to be, let alone the fact Jesus would be a socialist lol, he would never blame the poor for "being lazy" as being the cause of their situation. It's ridiculous. Hope what I'm saying is fair.

You'll definitely like this. http://www.rationalrevolution.net/articles/redefining_the_political_spectru.htm

Everything has become so confused that it is hard to even begin the discussion anymore. It's all very Orwellian.

Only morons would believe he's actually dumb.

Yes, and the upcoming economic collapse will be blamed on him and conservatives.

Trump has the smarts of a hustler. That is, he's very good at manipulating dimwits. For everyone else, it's embarrassing even talking about him.

For the establishment he serves as the loud distraction and the scapegoat for their unreported crimes.

If so it is working Lol. No president has ever been more mocked or disrespected by a large mass of people in every country. I hate trump not for who he is as a person because I do not know the guy but because he incites the worst in people. I for the first time ever went to the trump reddit, and found comment among comment of men talking about rapping woman, calling them pigs and chimps, and talking about cuckolding liberal uncivilized woman. It was fucking disturbing. I left a comment stating how happy I was the general age range of trump supporters is older and will most likely die within the next 20-30 years. I got banned for threatening them and when I replied to the mod about it the mod banned me from messaging mods of that sub. So if this what they are trying to do making conservatives, republicans, and now conspicary theorist (most conservatives weren't theorist before trump which is weird but a rant for a different time) look bad then it is exponentially effective.