If theorists say that no planes crashed on the WTC, then how come we see planes on the video footage recorded by people on the streets?

5 2017-07-04 by PhantomLord3

And if those "planes" are drones, then what happened to the real planes that were hijacked since they didn't crash on the WTC?

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Is it possible that all those videos were manipulated by the government before being released? Ancient Astronaut theorists say yes

Because the 9/11 conspiracy doesn't and has never made any sense in any rational thinking world.

Says a person who's never had a conflicting thougt ever

Wtf are you talking about?

That is you being incapable of a conflicting thought. Not a lack of truth to be heard.

Oh I didn't realize you know me so well. I guess if no one believes the conspiracy then their "slaves" or don't have "open minds"? Yeah I've heard it all before.

There is plenty surrounding the 9/11 conspiracy that makes sense, this just isn't one of those things.

"No planers" are not prominent in the 9/11 truther movement.

The fact that you actually believe the official story is laughable.

Yes - laugh at anyone that doesn't believe it super secret conspiracy theories you read on a subreddit. That will show them.

You can believe whatever you makes sense to you. Just because people question 9/11 doesn't make them irrational.

News flash... The official story is a 'super secret conspiracy theory you read on a subreddit'. Just not this one.

Personally, I think no planers are turds in the punch bowl placed there by intelligence agencies.

Here's my challenge to you, and anyone else that believes as you do. Find me a peer reviewed report of the collapse of building 7. Go on, I'll wait. ;)

You're right 9/11 happened exactly as the official story said it does...and Saddam had WMD's which is why over a million Iraqi civilians had to die. That was the official story as well.

You believing that it's irrational to question the 9/11 narrative is funny. If your girlfriend cheated on you and lied a countless amount of times would you really think she was incapable of lying again? Keep thinking what you're told.

I didn't I say I believe the official story. There will always be things we will never know. But to fill in the blanks with absolute lunacy and paranoia is probably worse.

What makes no sense is the "official" story the government and the media told us. That is what makes no fucking sense.

What exactly makes no sense to you?

Half the supposed "street witnesses" are producers and staff of the new stations.

And if those "planes" are drones, then what happened to the real planes that were hijacked since they didn't crash on the WTC?

If you search the flight manifest a large % of the people on the planes were military. The other half never showed up:

More than 350 people who were originally scheduled to be on the four airliners hijacked in the 9/11 attacks either changed their plans and canceled their reservations--in many cases at the last minute--or simply failed to show up for the flights on the morning of September 11, 2001. While these individuals came from a variety of backgrounds, a remarkable number of them worked in, or had close connections to, Hollywood or other areas of the entertainment industry. Some of them were very well-known personalities.

http://911blogger.com/news/2014-08-22/over-350-passengers-canceled-their-reservations-or-didnt-show-hijacked-911-flights

You think they filled half of New York City with news producers who are willing to lie for the government?

And ideas like this are why I can't get on board with any of these conspiracies.

many people reported seeing something different. it's ridiculous to rule out the use of video fakery and narrative from insiders.

No they didn't fill NY with them, they simply choose to interview plants. Some had spooks directly next to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggJDmo7iS_o

Organic witnesses dropped off the radar, some turned up dead. (Possibly not actually dead but relocated under different names).

I can't even begin to explain how absolutely silly the idea is that they ran around New York finding all the people that witnessed it (thousands btw) and made them disappear.

Do you even realize how incredibly impossible that is?

Yes, well rather its absurd. You present an argument ad absurdum. There would be absolutely no need to dissappear witnesses simply because they are witnesses. Only the ones who spoke out or had an objective or imperative to continue speaking out.

See: Barry Jennings.

Oh the guy who changed his story several times. Yeah they let him speak for 7 years and then killed him. That makes sense.

Movement against the official narrative did not originate immediately after. Not organized anyway. He died in 2008, what was going on around that time and shortly after...

2009.

In 2009, a group of people, including 9/11 Truth movement activist Lorie Van Auken and others who have lost friends or relatives in the attack, appealed to the City of New York to investigate the disaster.

The New York City Coalition for Accountability Now collected signatures to require the New York City Council to place the creation of an investigating commission on the November 2009 election ballot.[59] The group collected more than enough signatures to put the proposal before the voters, but New York Supreme Court Justice Edward Lehner stated that the petition overstepped what is allowable by city law, and ruled that, despite wording in the petition to allow for elements ruled invalid to be stricken, it would not be allowed to appear on the ballot.

TBH the worse "offenders" are the Pentagon and WH attacks, where doubts abound ... Including complete lack of any recording.

As for WTC ... I don't know how many actually doubt there were planes (maybe there is a poll ?).

Easy they were all planted their by the CIA or whatever other rogue element of the US Intelligence Community that was responsible.

Thousands of New Yorkers was planted there?

There were thousands of people who recorded video of 9-11?

I have no idea. People used camcorders back then. So not everyone had a camera in their pocket like they do now with phones.

The post was about recordings.

The only video of the first plane was a film crew shooting a documentary about NYC Firefighters. There are a few Amateur videos of the second plane the rest were all done by professionals working for the news.

That is not true for the second plane. There has been many amateur videos from different angles of the second plane hitting the tower.

I said that in my comment...

how do wings make cartoon cutouts, and the wrong engine end up on the street?

where are the black boxes? why didn't they make them out of passport?

Watch September Clues. All broken down for you. There were no planes.

On the issue of passengers, a useful exercise is to examine the more famous ones alledged to be on board: Flight 11: David Angell’s Odyssey on 9/11

I have no idea. People used camcorders back then. So not everyone had a camera in their pocket like they do now with phones.

Yes, well rather its absurd. You present an argument ad absurdum. There would be absolutely no need to dissappear witnesses simply because they are witnesses. Only the ones who spoke out or had an objective or imperative to continue speaking out.

See: Barry Jennings.