I wasn't aware humans could pass through the Van Allen Belts?

....and I am not smart enough to be in this conversation...represent u/Putin_loves_cats!

well, who told you so? Thats how i started to think lately.

NASA scientists did, that's who.

You beliebe those Nazis?

Every now and then a liar speaks the truth ;)

but this now and then must not be when he told you that they cant pass the belt, only because you would like it to be true.

Yeah I won't be surprised if they have already developed a radiation reflecting material to allow humans to go out in space but not told us pesky commoners.

The reason why this is absurd on the face of it, is because you haven't even provided a MOTIVE for the supposed elite pedophile rings to put their slave colony on mars. That seems like a massive logistical problem, as well has a huge security risk, to no end. It also seems like it would actually be a hindrance, since the next time you want to summon the devil you have to travel all the way to mars to find a sacrifice

I didn't say the motive was the only missing piece, I said it was the first thing that jumps out as absurd.

I agree that just because I can't imagine a motive doesn't mean someone else can't imagine a motive. But I don't see why it is worthwhile to entertain your idea when not even you can imagine why someone would bother to do this. You are asking people to consider the possibility that there are unknown people doing something unknown which seems impossible, using an unknown means, toward unknown ends. And all without evidence! At least give me a blurry photo of a martian rock formation that looks like a pentagram or something, jeez

It fits in with the abduction narrative i remember from the 90's. It just picks a source planet for the intruders.

I feel like if they tried some amateur astronomer would see the rocket go up. Also quite the pickle of that mars rover catches something.

I'm mostly joking and while unaware of where this conspiracy spawned from last week feel it's a psyop cause it is definitely stupid.

In order to get to Mars there'd have to be a very long burn in Earth's vicinity in order to set up the transfer orbit capable of carrying all the mass of a colony + children. This is nothing something that happens all the time, in fact it's extremely rare, and it is something amateur astronomers could pick up on.

They would of course split it, but there's a break-even point where it doesn't make sense. Sending a mission for every nut and bolt is silly, as is a single mission that takes the whole shebang at once.

Even so, a payload of a single child + life support equipment is still going to take a big burn to get it to Mars.

you don't really understand how far apart earth and mars are do you?

Except they aren't using rockets.

Consider the person who dropped this story (to Alex Jones) is CIA. Once a spook always a spook.

Even if there were truth to it the information was released for a designated purpose.

And Robert Steele is an agent from what agency? There's no blame being put on anyone here. Simply analytics. When Apple unlocked a phone (or refused to) Joe Rogan had "ex-CIA" agent on to explain why the FBI requests were actually beneficial to security and the people.

Can't recall the specifics of that case but I believe the entire thing simply led to tech companies being able to unlock phones without warrants.

Once a spook always a spook.

No one ever retires from the agency.

What can children do on Mars that:

1) Wouldn't be better done by adults?

2) The "elites" wouldn't rather have them doing on Earth?

That was easy..

That's because you didn't actually answer the question, you just pointed out that kids live long and can be controlled and claimed they "survive better".

What do they do on Mars? What's the point of having them there in the first place? Are they farming potatoes? Conducting science experiments? Answer that question then apply my two filters above.

When suggesting a conspiracy, having a plausible motive is a pretty key part of determining whether it's far-fetched or not.

There are numerous tents on Mount Everest because people die, and their bodies and gear are left up there. And, relative to traveling to and colonizing Mars, that's a piece of cake. We write books about lots of things we don't (or can't) actually do.

1) without the experience and training adults would receive over the course of their life, kids would not live longer or survive better. Robots would make waaaaaaay more sense.

2) man has always reached for the stars, and man would not squander the opportunity to set up an actual colony on mars by sending a bunch of kids.

Of course, you'll retort with some "but they are so rich, that's exactly why they would do something this stupid!" I'll respond by calling you an idiot for such a pathetic response. Then you'll follow up by taking it personally and accusing me of being a shill or other agent of tptb. And then I'll finish this off by pointing out once again how ridiculous your claims are.

That was fun. Post some other ridiculous theory sometime and we can do this again.

Most children lack the technical skills required from astronauts.

Anyway, there's not shortage willing adults going to Mars, so using children would be pointless. Willing adults will always do a better job than slave children. A community on another planet would require cooks, maintenance engineers, doctors, repair workshop operators, etc.. all which are jobs that children can't do, except for cooking.

Anything is possible. If there is a link to children's blood eliminating disease or DMT production being stronger in a child, it could certainly add into why they are farmed on Mars on not held here. Very fucked up if true. I hope it's fake... but knowing what TPTB could and are capable of, I'm wary of the information being discredited nowadays.

Name one good reason why this would happen on mars instead of earth?

Steele stated the trip takes 20 years. We can get a satellite to mars in 7-18 months. 20 years is absolutely ridiculous.

If you buy the whole 20 yr thing, then it might make sense to get kids. But there isn't going to be a lot of grunt work on mars, most of it will be technical. Just kidnapping someone who is already skilled would be 5 times as efficient.

According to this nasa page it would take about 9-10 months. 20 years is enough time to reach the edge of our solar system.

20 years ago was 1997, since we landed on the moon 28 years before that, I think it would be fine.

I mean if you want to argue that it could be technically possible, sure, but "what's so far-fetched"? That should be pretty obvious.

It's just fits the bad shit crazy narrative of theories too much. People really need to know how to separate realistic type shit and the not at all realistic. No matter how much secretive information is alive, what you probably think is real is very much not real. Fake news is real, but the term just finally became mainstream for some odd reason.....? Some of it may be real, a lot of it most likely not.

Look into Marine Captain Randy Cramer and civilian Tony Rodriguez. They both attest to being part of programs very much like what you talk about.

Many of it impossible based on knowledge of outer space but, again, we must remember this info we have is what we have been allowed to know. And what's the possibility it's a lie?

There are many people worldwide who go missing without a trace. No real motive to disappear, no suspects, etc. A colony on Mars could solve a lot of missing persons. But they old said it was a child sex slave colony? Yes, but someone has to take care of the tots until they're ready to fulfill their purpose to create life on this new planet which would include adults from almost every profession of life.

If it's something of a Hollywood script, I tend to believe there is some truth to it. Is it like they "leaked"? Nah, that's total misinfo but I'd bet my bowl right now there's pieces of truth in it. I'm thinking in a few years we'll learn they've discovered Martians - and technically they will be: the first generation born on the planet; they just won't admit we created them.

That's my woke and baked take on it this morning.

1. Humans can't live on Mars. That idea is absurd in itself.

2. It takes almost a year to get there and you need to be highly trained to deal with being in space.

3. The fact that anyone has to prove to you this is not only impossible but an impossibly stupid idea bothers me greatly and makes me lose faith in mankind.

Mars ain't no place to raise a kid. In fact, it's cold as hell.

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Half the people in this sub will fill a page detailing why we can't leave the atmosphere, but put pizzagate on Mars and it's popcorn time.

Dude, clearly we faked the moon landing because we were too busy setting up to go to Mars.

Finally, somebody making sense. Great username, also.

This whole thing is designed to discredit. It associated kidnapped children and pedo-rings with the fantastical and ridiculous.

Why Mars? It would be cheaper to do this on the bottom of the ocean and just as secretive. That's the absurd part.

I can fathom an evil kidnap ring because plenty of those exist. I can fathom secret space missions because plenty of those exist. I can accept the feasibility of going to Mars w/ current technology. But why put all three together?

If we could afford to go back and forth to Mars to kidnap and ??? children we would get a higher ROI mining the asteroid belt for the same investment.

My question is, what is your agenda pushing this? And (I can't believe I'm saying this) where are the flat earthers when you need them?

Do they also lock all the males underground and milk them for their semens and make them write jokes???

Im sorry, I try to entertain most things that come through this sub, but there is documentary out right now about Boys Town regarding Larry King, and all that basically happened in Nebraska. Fucking Nebraska.

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We have 5 different space programs with anti-gravity type technologies. Plus we already know how to use wormholes and portals.

NASA is a joke. They are not the ones who have the colonies on Mars with the captured children/beings.

Just like how they made comet ping pong the focus of the pizzagate story NASA is playing that role in this new scandal. NASA obviously is too enept to put humans into deep space but they will accept all attention this story brings as it defects from the real perpatrariors Air Force SSP/Intel Agencies i.e. the Deep State.

Deflecting this type of attention is NASA's real job. SHAME ON JONES FOR NOT CALLING OUT THE RIGHT GROUP!!!

Gaia talks about secret Mars colonies alot, FYI.

We have 5 different space programs with anti-gravity type technologies. Plus we already know how to use wormholes and portals.

NASA is a joke. They are not the ones who have the colonies on Mars with the captured children/beings.

Just like how they made comet ping pong the focus of the pizzagate story NASA is playing that role in this new scandal. NASA obviously is too enept to put humans into deep space but they will accept all attention this story brings as it defects from the real perpatrariors Air Force SSP/Intel Agencies i.e. the Deep State.

Deflecting this type of attention is NASA's real job. SHAME ON JONES FOR NOT CALLING OUT THE RIGHT GROUP!!!

Gaia talks about secret Mars colonies alot, FYI.

Serious question- what do you think would happen to the muscles of a person who was in cryogenic sleep for 18 months-20 years? Do you think this person would have the muscle capacity to do slave work after such a period of inactivity?

Makes sense to me.

They'd need children because they're using ion engined craft (cheaper, more efficient but lengthier trip), the kids would be easier to groom/ train/ brainwash than adults and they would have longer life spans due to their age and the longer solar orbit of mars around the sun.

Plus, younger folks would make better bartering chips with any human hating/ human eating aliens that might be there.

If the elitists don't give a shit about an entire planet (earth) dying, why would they give a damn about a few of em?

earth as a planet is inhabited but their is plenty of room, there is no motivation for bringing slave children on space missions.

Really crap like this should be on /r/farfetchedconspiracies

Holy shit, you're the only using the reason you made your edit about. Wow.