Is it just me or has this sub gotten extremely negative in the comments? What used to be constructive, productive dialogue has now become criticizing and belittling others for their beliefs.
45 2017-06-08 by okokok7654
Maybe I'm wrong but conversations here just don't seem the same at all... Am I crazy for remembering a time when we could disagree with other users on things and provide meaningful responses without criticizing them personally? When we gave constructive criticism and didn't label everyone a shill/t_d2.0 just because their opinion might be different than ours?
This election has polarized us on every level and I don't know whether the polarization on this sub is manufactured or genuine, but for the true skeptics out there who still care about the search for truth- always remember that none of us knows anything. We're all guessing, some better than others... don't let confirmation bias prevent you from considering other sides; always be open minded to any possibility and take every theory with a grain of salt. Spread positivity and don't let the negative responses effect your journey.
37 comments
n/a LightBringerFlex 2017-06-08
There are paid shills who target anyone that goes against the establishment. They also have a downvoting bot.
n/a jaydwalk 2017-06-08
They aren't just the shills, people attacking with 5+ year accounts.
n/a HempCO719 2017-06-08
They can fake those numbers too
n/a PantsMcGillicuddy 2017-06-08
How? I get buying older accounts is a thing, but can you fake the age?
n/a HempCO719 2017-06-08
Admin access for authorized individuals. Easy as that. Its sanctioned
n/a okokok7654 2017-06-08
Yes I know this. My issue is that there are still genuine users here who argue with the bots and shills, and we don't even know who is and isn't being paid to influence our dialogue so we're turning against each other and everything just seems so damn negative all the time. I don't believe for a second that all disagreements and negativity are coming from bots...
n/a Ilsaluna 2017-06-08
Using RES (reddit enhancement suite) makes a big difference just with the ability to tag users as you see fit. It can be entertaining to read through a post/comments and see the comment patterns and the narrative of the day/week of those you've tagged vs those organic users (often in the green with updoots); things become very clear and quite predictable.
It's best to downvote and move along without engaging since they've failed if they can't distract or bait legit users into arguing with them.
n/a FloridaMom13 2017-06-08
This. RES has improved my experience here tremendously!
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-06-08
Yup. It's a vicious cycle. Shills/trolls bait users into arguments/name calling, the user gets banned, the troll/shill does not. User creates a new account, same thing happens with a bit more vitriol, ad infinitum. If you're a regular here, it's easy to spot the provocateurs/agitators.
n/a Dude_wtf_seriously 2017-06-08
Yep. It's my goal to engage them and watch them shoot themselves. /u/tumpetsablaze made an acct specifically to bait Trump followers into breaking the rules then he called for their ban. He's banned now =) 1 down.
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-06-08
Yeah, buddy! I do the same :)
n/a HideYaKidsHideYoWife 2017-06-08
Bullshit. The_donald just got caught last week for using bots to copy and paste comments all very this sub. The paid shills you're afraid of are the ones that agree with you.
n/a ArchonFall4All 2017-06-08
That was my post, and you're misrepresenting the facts
n/a HideYaKidsHideYoWife 2017-06-08
Who's bots were they then?
n/a ArchonFall4All 2017-06-08
We don't know. Yes, the bots were copying posts from T_D, but we don't know who the creator was or what their motivations were. We can speculate that someone just wanted to spam t_d stuff here, but there are other possibilities as well. We simply don't know enough to make any conclusions
n/a DumbledoreSays 2017-06-08
Who is paying these 'shills'? And why? And how could somebody get a job there?
n/a LightBringerFlex 2017-06-08
Share blue is paying the shills.
n/a Rockin_Dead 2017-06-08
Or they're sucking Koch brothers dick.
n/a Alasbabylon103 2017-06-08
Big pharma hires shills, Monsanto hires shills, politicians hire shills, energy industry hires shills. Even education sector hires shills. Pretty much any business that has a public relations problem hires shills to as a PR campaigne.
n/a atonementfish 2017-06-08
Where do I sign up to become a paid shill?
n/a LightBringerFlex 2017-06-08
You are willing to sell your soul for $12 an hour?
n/a jaydwalk 2017-06-08
Agreed, happened to me yesterday.
n/a HempCO719 2017-06-08
Its all subs. Some more than others
n/a DumbledoreSays 2017-06-08
Yep. People are pretty negative these days. I don't blame them. Poor diet, lack of sunlight, too much death and destruction on TV entering their subconscious. Not good.
n/a SoundEffectsFactory 2017-06-08
This same self post is posted almost weekly now. Just filter out the obvious shill submissions and discrediting comments and you're good to go.
n/a wavecollapse 2017-06-08
Shills tend to be condescending.
n/a TrumpRusConspiracy 2017-06-08
I hate shills from all sides, because it makes it hard for people like me who just want a civil discussion about different issues and posts.
When CTR came out, I was pissed because I knew immediately what was going to happen, with anyone that was anti-Trump being accused of being a shill.
CTR shills of course exist, but it's hard to differentiate between shills and legitimate people.
n/a Alasbabylon103 2017-06-08
They should be required to disclosed who they are affiliated with.
n/a TrumpRusConspiracy 2017-06-08
Agreed.
n/a Oveneise 2017-06-08
That would be the astroturfing - they are just doing their job.
n/a Imurdaddytoo 2017-06-08
Does anyone have a good alternate sub for this one?
n/a treeslooklikelamb 2017-06-08
This is our home, we have to stay and defend it.
n/a letsgetphysical__ 2017-06-08
Shills come here to antagonize and make it a shitty experience so real users stop coming. Their plan is to either take over this sub or kill it.
And I mean ShareBlue.
n/a ring-ring-ring 2017-06-08
Well, yeah, many of the comments are negative, but we've got some really flakey posters in here these days. It's hard not to get impatient with them.
n/a treeslooklikelamb 2017-06-08
True conspiracy theorists have open minds imo, and it is this trait that brings us together here.
Shills are therefore easy to spot.
Divisive. Close minded. Condescending. Disingenuous. Etc
Tag these guys accordingly and move on, although we have to be careful not to become an echo chamber.
n/a StrizzMatik 2017-06-08
ShareBlue
n/a SumoSect 2017-06-08
Nope. You're not alone.
n/a HempCO719 2017-06-08
They can fake those numbers too
n/a PantsMcGillicuddy 2017-06-08
How? I get buying older accounts is a thing, but can you fake the age?
n/a ArchonFall4All 2017-06-08
That was my post, and you're misrepresenting the facts