Lets suppose Russia is responsible for hacking & leaking emails...Does the WHO really matter if the emails were authentic & exposed extreme corruption? Wouldn't the real meddling be MSM's attempts to ignore/discredit them by focusing on the Russia narrative rather than discussing the contents?
25 2017-06-06 by okokok7654
I don't think Russia is responsible for the DNC leaks, but there's still a possibility that they are responsible for the Podesta emails so let's just consider both to be true for MSM purposes...
Should we really blame Russia for 'meddling' and attempting to interfere with our election if what they exposed about our next potential president was true? Call me a Russian Agent if you must, but if they are guilty of hacking and leaking, I would like to personally thank them for doing so since they prevented us from electing one of the most dangerously corrupt politicians in all of recent history. Not saying Trump is a saint by any means since he continues to go against everything he campaigned on, but Hillary Clinton is without a doubt one of the most disgustingly corrupt politicians in Washington DC and if you don't see that by now, you're making a conscious choice to remain ignorant. Being anti-Hillary does not mean that I'm pro-Trump so don't come at me with t_d bullshit in an attempt to dismiss what I'm getting at here.
So who should really be held responsible for attempting to influence the election? American MSM..... that's who
News outlets pose themselves as being to be dedicated to exposing the truth and informing citizens on issues WITHOUT BIAS. This election proved once and for all that the MSM doesn't give a fuck about the truth, and that they will do everything to protect those they serve. They lied to the people and refused to address the majority of the corruption that was found in the emails, with CNN even going so far as telling viewers that only they were allowed to view the WikiLeaks emails , as it would be illegal for the plebians to do so. They're still not even covering the DNC lawsuit, and if they have, it's been minimal coverage!!
And yet RT continues to prove itself as a more unbiased news outlet than any of the American media outlets, but nooo we shouldn't trust anything that comes from them because "they're state-sponsored media"!!!!! If you still don't see that American media is "state-sponsored" after this election, you're a fool.
With every day that they continue to push this bullshit Russia witch hunt in the media, I lose more and more faith in fair American reporting, not that I had much to begin with anyways. They will report extensively on info from "anonymous sources" and spin every story to favor their desired narrative, but still won't talk about the fact that the DNC literally argued in court that they have no obligation to follow the wishes of their donors and have every right to pick the candidate of their choice behind closed doors... They still don't understand that their biased, selective reporting is having the opposite desired effect and more people are starting to see the truth as a result.
And as far as Russia-Trump goes- while it may be illegal or unethical, I'm sure that it's not uncommon for politicians or their advisors/aides to be in communication with foreign nations and if we had as many leaks from the Obama Admin regarding communications with Saudi Arabia, Israel, Qatar etc. I'm sure he would have faced an investigation as well. What would have happened if everyone found out that a banker from Citigroup emailed John Podesta in October 2008 with their desired cabinet members for Obama , most of whom were ultimately appointed once he was inaugurated? Don't you think there would have been some concern there seeing as how he was elected at a time when bankers had a lot at stake due to the recession?
I'm not dismissing that the possibility of a potential Russia-Trump collusion or arguing that this possibility wouldn't be dangerous for Americans... My issue is with the coverage of this investigation, the bullshit coverage during the election, and with the American public continuing to buy the pile of shit they're being fed by MSM.
Fuck you CNN, FOX, ABC, MSNBC, CNBC, and whatever other anagram outlets I forgot. Fuck all of you for blaming Russia and Putin for something you yourselves are guilty of.
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n/a casualjane 2017-06-06
It's the same reasoning that put Chelsea (then Bradley) Manning in prison for exposing US war crimes.
n/a bannanaflame 2017-06-06
If Russia did anything out of the ordinary, which they didn't, it would be appropriate for media to cover both stories. The methods and the content.
n/a ScholarOfTwilight 2017-06-06
One of your links is to Russia Today. ಠ_ಠ
n/a 13_Bloodlines 2017-06-06
It's because the majority of Americans would rather blame other people for their own personal faults.
You see it all the time. (i.e. - I cheated on my spouse because YOU didn't make me happy. I am addicted to drugs because THEY sold them to me. I got in trouble at work because YOU ratted on me. Etc. etc.)
No one can take responsibility for anything.
The US government is no different.
They're only exposed as corrupt because THEY leaked the info.
n/a FloridaMom13 2017-06-06
So so so true.
n/a Another-Chance 2017-06-06
Please don't fall for this shit. It isn't just about that but about collusion between trump and crew with them on many things. Property deals, loans, sanctions, etc.
n/a RocketSurgeon22 2017-06-06
Property deals prove what? Loans prove what? What sanctions?
You ask someone to not fall for something but give little info on what he should believe. I think the OP is looking at facts.
What if the government and the deep state was infested with neo- conservatives? Wouldn't you want a liberal and supporting groups to help over turn the neo-cons?
n/a Another-Chance 2017-06-06
A good starting point:
https://np.reddit.com/r/TrumpInvestigation/wiki/doc
n/a RocketSurgeon22 2017-06-06
You've shared this and its an archive contained mostly of MSM articles. I could search Russia in google news and see more. Nobody is sharing what the property deals show proof of. Loans as a global business man mean what? You are not proving anything. You are simply saying he has connections to Russia. So what? What politician or candidate doesn't?
n/a Another-Chance 2017-06-06
That's what investigations are for.
No one has proven jack shit about seth yet it is talked about and speculated about. People also claim hillary has killed fifty people - no proof there, etc and so on.
Russian elite invested nearly $100 million in Trump buildings
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia
n/a RocketSurgeon22 2017-06-06
We are not talking about Seth Rich.
So what that Russians have purchased real estate from Trump. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? The guy is in the business of property investment. Are you saying because the dirty Russian bought property that he....wait I can't think of anything. Oh neither can you.
What other foreigners have purchased from Trump?
n/a Rutherford82 2017-06-06
So why did the RNC back Trump if he was such a compromised candidate?
The entire Republican party is to blame for Trump getting in power, not Russia.
And anyone involved with the DNC that new about the collusion against Sanders and did nothing are guilty for Democratic corruption, not Russia.
I don't think Russia is necessarily the "good guy caught in the middle" by a longshot, but "the dog ate my homework" is not acceptable from either side of the American political aisle.
n/a AFuckYou 2017-06-06
Nope
n/a Another-Chance 2017-06-06
That's what investigations are for.
No one has proven jack shit about seth yet it is talked about and speculated about. People also claim hillary has killed fifty people - no proof there, etc and so on.
Russian elite invested nearly $100 million in Trump buildings
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia