Brother Ali wasn't playing when he said:

"Plain look at how you hustling backwards

At the end of the year, add up what they subtracted

Three outta twelve months your salary pays for that madness

Man, that's sadness

What's left? get a big ass plasma

To see where they made Dan Ratherpoint the damn camera

Only approved questions get answered

Now stand your ass up for that national anthem"

Dude, mad kudos for name dropping him. Criminally underrated rapper. His new album though.. meh.

It's not much, but my ears perked up when I just heard these Kanye lyrics, in light of his recent story...

"I'm ahead of my time, sometimes years out, So the powers that be won't let me get my ideas out" - gone

Fun to think about Kanye west as wanting to tell us the truth about zero point energy or the mysteries of human history, but jayz is like nah dude.

... meh, that's the thing to me.. Kanye has always been a deep dude.. who speaks his mind.. he's been off lately..

You don't give money to the bums on a corner with a sign bleedin from their gums. Talkin' bout you don't support a crackhead, the fuck you think happens to the money from your taxes?

Shit the governments an addict! With a billion dollar a week kill brown people habit.

And even if you ain't on the frontline, when massa yell crunch time, you right back at it.

Didn't think I'd find new music to listen to here. I really dig it, thank you.

Sadly, that is what it has become. It wasn't always that way. As soon as we let the banks and corporations take over, it went to shit.

If you haven't already, it sounds like you're ready to check out Larken Rose. The taxation is theft guy.

I don't agree with taxation is theft. Sounds like a bum statement to me. Taxes pay for military, roads, teachers, police, firefighters, etc.

It's spent poorly but the only way you can have no taxation is after the genocide of the Native Americans when land was for the taking and you were responsible for growing your own food and teaching your kids what you know.

I think there's a middle road you're not looking at. It doesn't have to be either or, good and bad, trash and not trash. There can be degrees :)

What if there was a pbs special that followed the money taken from a random paycheck and followed on its path through the federal govt.

you are basically reciting textbook taxation rhetoric, the propaganda you've been taught since birth. but what about meh military? oh i don't know, what if there was no war in the first place, etc. there are alternatives.

what if there was no war in the first place

Ignorance like this would have gotten you killed or enslaved and your wife raped and stolen.

When will the people realize that we don't need a leader? We can live freely. Anarchy is depicted as chaos only because we'd have overthrown all governments already if it wasn't. If the whole world united and decided that we don't want to live this way anymore, we could have a worldwide revolution, and a nonviolent one at that. We each need to decide that our government does not rule us. If we ALL choose to stop giving them money, and we ignore their rules, their “authority” is gone. Nobody gets hurt, and everyone worldwide will benefit.

How do you deal with the warlords and despots that would inevitably rise up?

Ignore them. They have no power over you unless you willingly hand it to them.

That's not realistic. People in Afghanistan and Africa ignore warlords, but they still sweep through the village in trucks and pillage everything.

If people actual tried to be brave, proud, logical, and compassionate, we would have nothing to fear from warlords and despots. Evil cannot win in the face of overwhelming good. Fear is what makes people believe otherwise.

Who gets to decide what is good and what is evil?

Not humans.

Not humans.

You do, but your morality gets formed by your environment.

If people actually tried to be those things we wouldn't have to abolish the current system at all. The system isn't broken, people are broken and abuse/exploit systems, all systems, for their personal benefit.

I'd agree to a degree. The current system definitely allows for way too much to fall between the cracks.

Get rid of money.

This is, in my completely uneducated on the topic opinion, impossible unless we go back to a few isolated villages and communities population level. Maybe not in the form of bills and coins, but there will most likely be some kind of monetary system based around the concept of trade. I recall reading a sci-fi story that contained a civilization that had mastered nanotechnology, and with the ability to fabricate anything out of anything there was little point in tracking material possessions. That society instead traded in time, because that was the only precious commodity left. It was basically a system of favors with people placing value on their time and doing stuff for other people in exchange for them doing stuff for them.

Maybe in the far future if we get to the point of immortality and perfected nanotechnology we could go beyond a system of trade, but I'm thinking that the first people to reach that level are more likely to wipe everyone else out and start over.

We already trade money for time. Money is just a unit of influence that's easy to break into smaller amounts. How can I take an hour of a lawyer's time, pay it to a plumber, who needs to hire a painter, if they all have different values for their time?

Exactly, you would see things like the communities in "The Walking Dead" with Neegan, the Governor, etc. It's just inevitable. Much less likely for those people to rise to power in a civilized government.

That's not a revolution you are talking about, you are talking about an evolution.

Even better

Upvoted you back to 1.

I'd gladly take anarchy over a planned society ruled by a handful of elite families.

We have been living in a constitutional republic in which we elect officials to represent us. Recently it has become more exploited and you start to see some resemblance of dynasties such as the Clintons and Bushes but it is nowhere close to exclusive rule of the elites. Many of these problems can be fixed by "refreshing the fountain of liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants" as Thomas Jefferson said this country will inevitably have to do. At some point in the future there needs to be another Revolution and out of it needs to come an updated Constitution with modern clarifications, such as no lobbying; terms limits on Congressmen; fair taxes; provisions that require government to balance budget over time rather than perpetually rack up deficits even in times of growth; legalization of drugs; regulations on media outlets that prevent oligopoly of information in which the elite can push a certain agenda; no foreign entanglements unless attacked ourselves; and most important of all a provision to prohibit us from ever becoming a welfare state again, only benefits for those who truly cannot work and people like veterans. Anarchy is certainly not the solution, government is necessary and can be structured to work for the better of the country and its people. What we need is a government overthrow (preferably peaceful, if possible) and an updated Constitution that covers a lot of loopholes and biased interpretation that TPTB have been exploiting.

A revolution is going in circles. We need an evolution or we will replace the current shitstorm with another one.

I've repeated it before and shall again:

Welcome to the machine...

It's a machine that requires your energy and consent. You don't have to be part of it per say but withdrawing from it can cost you the ultimate price and the first step is to stop using their "money" which is a tricky proposition.

The biggest lie to an American is that we are free. You never actually own the land you "purchase". Every year taxes are due. How do you withdraw from that?

I'm resigned to the fact that the only way we can shrink government is if the dollar collapses. But who knows, maybe then they'll just tax us at 200%.

Murcia!! #1

You people live in a fantasy, man. You imagine that in some dog eat dog world where you can only keep what you can physically protect, that the Pakastani steel katanas you bought from a shop in the mall will make you some kind of god. It's been a while since I've read Hobbes, but I believe he described man in the state of nature as "nasty, brutish, and short." A long ass time ago people realized that it's better to consolidate power and forfeit a good amount of personal sovereignty in order to impose some sense of law and order into the world.

In an ideal world, governments protect your rights through rule of law. The police and courts make sure I can't take what's yours just because I'm stronger or otherwise infringe on your life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness. Additionally governments provide education, infrastructure, defense, health and safety, and a huge array of things that are meant to ensure you live a long and comfortable life where you don't have to worry that someone bigger and stronger will simply take what's yours because he can.

Now, in exchange for this, we give up a few things. We give up sovereignty. There's no rule of nature preventing me from walking into your mom's basement, slapping you upside your head, and taking what's yours (though I have no use for a semen stained anime body pillow, so likely your prize possessions are relatively safe). Nasty, brutish, and short. But in order to live in a society, I need to accept the rule of law, and accept that even though in nature I am free to break you and everything you love, in a civilization consequences are imposed on such an action. I forfeit that sovereignty, I relinquish unbridled free will for the security that someone stronger than me won't come along and take what's mine. Now, this protection: the law, the courts, the police, and all the other services: roads, schools, clean water, safe food, it all costs money. So we also give up resources. In the past this meant maybe a portion of the harvest. Today it means money. We pay the government in order to ensure that we don't have to live life in a state of nature, because a lot of us wouldn't survive very long, and I can really guarantee that a lot of people who agree with you wouldn't last a goddamn day.

Taxes are necessary. Deal with it.

People in communities can't come together voluntarily and provide all the services you mentioned? We have to send our money to Washington DC to be trickled back out to us? While they syphon off a percentage to give to all their mass murder buddies in the Military industrial complex? Fuck out of here. The more local your government the more transparency and obligation to the community it has.

What would you move to local government that the federal government runs?

Everything except defense. And we should only be concerned with defensive wars. These wars of aggression are detrimental to our nation and security.

The government is mostly a jobs program for retarded people. I suggest everyone learn how to legally reduce or eliminate their tax liability.

Ideal Government is collective action where best. That is why the Constitution limits government power. People today think it grants rights it really just limits government rights.

Taxes are collective action not theft. The problem is collective actions require good stewardship and that involves mass participation.

Yup, it's a corporation, like a huge human farm, with different parts of the farm serving different purposes for the main purpose of farming people, and maintaining cultures.

Why the fuck does the CIA fund music and movies? Because they are guiding culture. Why would a government do a false flag attack to be able to kill other parts of the world? Because they are guiding culture.

Guiding the lambs to slaughter, to consume until death and to keep the cogs of society functioning so that the ones on top can benefit from a society meant to serve them.

Socialism and nepotism at the top, cut throat capitalism at the bottom.

How about drivers licenses ? We pay a road toll

Are you arguing that government isn't necessary?