Comedy was just inept and Trump did the right thing. He messed up multiple times.

Man, I would love to see /r/conspiracy losing their shit over literally any other president firing the head of the FBI while they're investigating them

but alas...this is TrumpTown

I'm not saying trump is innocent but comey has done a subpar job time and time again especially with the Hillary emails. It seems the investigations just drag on and loose all direction under his guidance. We get why it looks bad but Comey regardless had to go.

You are delusional. Look at the front page, then look at their comments. Non-stop shitting on Trump.

And he deserves it. This sub should be more critical of a President firing someone who was investigating him or his contemporaries for ties to hostile foreign governments.

Because it is ridiculously awful timing to fire him. Absolutely retarded move.

Yeah right, Comey just came out and said how what Huma and her husband pedo weiner were doing (transferring hundreds and thousands of emails from not only hillary's servers etc, but to her comp and then to his) was against the law but because they couldn't 'prove' the intent, that it wasn't a case, yet again doing the Exact same thing he is getting fired for, for going out and saying Hillary broke the law but the intent wasn't there and thus, no 'reasonable' prosecutor would go after her and that he recommended no charges.

Huma and Wiener may not have been informed that the emails were classified and that this was illegal. There is no way to know of that knowledge and they would likely deny it if it was true.

Would you be okay with your wife sending all your work and personal emails to her boss? Without permission?

The answer is that I would fire them but I would not call the cops on it because it would not be illegal for them to do. The legality is in did they know they shared classified information and if they did then they would be prosecuted.

Absolutely nothing you wrote counter-argues what the person you're replying too wrote.

there is nothing to counter argue as he didn't state and argument, just a personal opinion. but sure, whatever you say.

Not really. The person claimedit was bad timing and then the next post stated the firing came right after Comey's sandbagging in Congress once again.

It's very logical timing.

Except that per the White House and AG, that wasn't the reason they canned him.

some one needs to watch George webb

You don't know that yet, and you don't have the information that the president and the intelligence Community have. Your opinion is based on partial "information" from mainstream media. And looking through your post history, and you have no credibility either.

I'm pretty sure Clapper said he had not seen it. But the investigation continued after he left soo... also it was the fact that Flynn lied about contacting the Russian ambassador that got him fired. And trump was warned about Flynn on multiple occasions. It's not ok that the guy investigating trump was fired for this bullshit reason.

Why did you quote someone quoting Clapper instead of Clapper himself? Also. He has no access to classified information, so of course he "still" hasn't seen it. It's fucking classified.

did his security clearance get revoked?

Just because you have a security clearance doesn't mean you get access to everything at that level Source: I had secret security clearance in the navy.

surely any evidence would have been collected by january 20th? before that date are you saying that the Obama administration wouldn't have shared said evidence with their CIA director? correct?

or are you saying the evidence was only turned up between feb & now, a time during which Clapper might not have had accessed to said evidence (unless someone leaked it to him, which considering the EO allowing for the dissemination of evidence across agencies & plenty of Obama era holdovers i find difficult to believe)

That's 4 months to gather more concrete evidence. I believe he mentioned something about having dismissed some evidence about something unrelated to this because it wasn't strong enough, same situation could apply here, he has seen evidence but it wasn't as strong as he would like. When I got out of the navy my friends still on the boat stopped discussing classified info with me. Has he probably heard some juicy gossip? Yea sure. Could he have been told about evidence of collusion and not have "seen" it? Also very likely.

well first of all no offense but youre on a different level.

your buddies would be shit scared of breaking rules.

in Clappers situation, his buddies ARE the rules.

your final hypothesis, just so that i am clear is: - Clapper is covering for Trump? Why is everyone alluding to collusion but not just being outright and putting their balls on the line for it?

its not like the concept of too big too jail doesnt exist

I think they need that concrete proof. And the even alluding to what they have or how they are gathering info publicly could be Devi stating to the investigation. In the end too big to jail will be in Pence's, Paul Ryan's, or Mattis' hands (with regards to pardon him or not)

got it.

cant alert trump.

surprise attack when he least expects it.

starting count.

2,447 days

Did you check the Dropbox folder? All the super secret files are in there. Just don't click on the folder that says "top secret compartmentalized." It's kind of on the honor system.

Would you be ok with his friends leaking him information? Isn't the mishandling of classified information what got everyone in a huff over Hillary in the first place?

That only matters when it gets leaked to the public. We all know intelligence people are all up in each other's business. If there was something there, he would have seen it.

Clapper is not even on Trumps side. When Trump makes bullshit claims like wiretapping, he calls him out on it. Clapper tells it like it is.

Stop holding up Clapper of an example of a source. He has no credit with the American public anymore.

During my tenure as DNI, it was my practice to defer to the FBI director, both Director Mueller and then subsequently Director Comey, on whether, when and to what extent they would inform me about such investigations. This stems from the unique position of the FBI, which straddles both intelligence and law enforcement. And as a consequence, I was not aware of the counterintelligence investigation Director Comey first referred to during his testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee for Intelligence on the 20th of March, and that comports with my public statements.

-clapper in yesterday's hearing

You mean the same Clapper that claimed we weren't listening to Americans conversations. LMAO. I guess you believe Trumps certified letter that he had nothing to do with Russia. After all its "certified".

So Obama fired Flynn in 14 for Russian collusion, but then his admin granted DOD access for Flynn in 16. Why so?

is that true? honestly i have no idea, im not super well read on everything

It's been stated already but the President doesn't directly handle who has security clearance. These people have to be cleared by multiple departments, some of which are independent from the President.

And the president oversees these operations, I would only assume, or at least the AG at the time. So, that still doesn't explain how he was renewed.

Reddit is getting hit hard with "real peoples opinions" which just so happen to be the same as soros

Can we just say Rothschilds yet? Soros is a fall boy

Shit, what other opinions am I not allowed to have? What are Soros' thoughts on Oreos?

I'm guessing it's because the deep state got nervous Comey might Freudian slip so they are replacing him and everyone to embed the deep state. All of Trump's actions are creating an unstoppable shadow should the American people vote a gabbard or Sanders next. Washington is no longer a swamp, it is now a shit filled swimming pool of echelon cronies who don't want to share and want to embed themselves so they will always be elites. Trump lost his next election with net neutrality​, filling every position with industry insiders, and filling the unelected government with tycoon henchmen.

Wow. I wish I could give you gold, accept this Reddit Silver instead! :D

so sure it was because of the Russia investigation which hasn't shown any kind of evidence?

no evidence /=/ no investigation, investigations bring out all sorts of dirt from many different sources, they may not find any russia dirt but you know there's a pile a mile high of filth just waiting to be unearthed. these are politicians and billionaires - there's always plenty of dirt.

Does Comey saying 3 times that Trump wasn't under investigation == no investigation?

Trump wasn't under investigation == no investigation?

no, that means Trump himself isn't under investigation. the US, it's politicians, and it's attendants is a wide wonderful world and there are vast areas ripe for 'investigation' in all the nooks and crannies.

Ok so still, Trump is not under investigation and there is not evidence.

There is evidence. Just burbs didn't trump. That's kinda the whole point of the investigation. Not to investigate trump but to investigate his staff.

So, again, nothing against Trump, right?

Muddy, muddy, muddy the waters

Is a great singer

The investigation is on trumps administration. Can it end up being on trump. Maybe. For the time being they're investigating the administration.

Doesn't seem like they are. Seems like they're not really investigating anyone. And the people that did have dirt (Flynn) have been removed. So no, they are not investigating the administration.

Beetle juice

This seems to be the new talking point. That Comey could in no way just be incompetent and have no friends in politics anymore because of various missteps throughout last year. It must be because he was investigating Trump for the Russia ties that we are still waiting to hear about.

Shills are spinning it so hard that it can fly

Trump agreed with the recommendation of Trump's attorney general who said:

"I cannot defend the director’s handling of the conclusion of the investigation of Secretary Clinton’s emails, and I do not understand his refusal to accept the nearly universal judgment that he was mistaken. Almost everyone agrees that the director made serious mistakes; it is one of the few issues that unites people of diverse perspectives.’’"

Oh yeah, that's right, we trust James Clapper now.

Anyone saying this is because of Russia-Trump is a shill, simple.

The /r/politics soros shills have made themselves too obvious.

Both Pizzagate and Russiagate have no concrete evidence, just rabid witchhunts and hysteria instead of actual investigation and actual evidence.

One is based on real emails, the other is based on a ridiculously fake dossier.

Real emails and real history.

Nixon didn't fire an FBI director... Bill Clinton was the first president to ever do it.

Yeah, but Nixon did fire those trying to investigate him, very much like Comey. Clinton fired the FBI director for stealing from taxpayers.

Because the subpoenas dropped just hours before he fired Comey, that and he is moving all of his money oversees. Its a cover up dude.

Source he is moving his money overseas?

https://mobile.twitter.com/truefactsstated/status/862078062216794112

Who cares what Clapper says. He's a crook and liar.

Attorney: Spy chief had 'forgotten' about NSA program when he misled Congress

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/241508-spy-head-had-absolutely-forgotten-about-nsa-program

What would be the reason behind him lying about there not being evidence on Trump-Russia?

You're an affront to logic and rational thinking. At least try to vomit your narrative staying within the confines of rational thought. It's more effective that way.

Yeah, because it makes total sense that Trump would fire the guy to prevent investigation of allegations he knows are false.

What is happening is that "they" will not allow Trump to appear to make a good decision, ever. So he fires Comey for being a bag of shit liar, and they spin it into some anti-Trump nonsense.

Bingo. It is vital for the deep state, if trump actually wants to drain the swamp, that he appear as incompetent as possible

This fucking sub. This is a blatant attempt at a cover up and you guys are towing the White House line. I have never seen this sub so quickly go to pro elite and pro us government

Trump fired Comey today after the subpoenas were issued. It was obviously not something planned because they didn't even know where Comey was at the time FFS. The timing is not just some crazy random happenstance. Trump wants to kill any investigations into him and replace all levels of government with yes men and loyalists. And you guys are LOVING it.

There is ample evidence. You are completely misquoting what James Clapper said.

By sitting on the fence and trying to save his own job instead of just doing it, Comey ultimately managed to piss both sides off.

They both wanted him gone for political reasons of their own that either side will now claim are vindicated by his dismissal which really has nothing to do with why the public should be glad to see him gone or the basic reason for that, namely that he failed to faithfully uphold the law which he, more than anyone else in the country, had more than enough power and independence to do, DOJ or no DOJ.

The only permission he needed was for a search warrant and all he had to provide for that was a reasonable suspicion that a crime had been committed. In Clinton's case and with the private unsecured server she admitted to having set up at her residence for her own private and State Dept. communications that wasn't even a suspicion but a matter of fact and an open admission of guilt on under oath on her part to the congressional committee investigating what she knew and did when the Benghazi embassy was over-run and the ambassador was killed.

That was Comey's time to move. If he had the Congress wouldn't have needed to try and investigate the issue of the server and finding itself having to negotiate with Clinton while the server was still in her possession.

Comey should have immediately seized Clinton's server both as threat to national security as well being evidence of a crime and additionally all the devices that her aides and assistants linked to and communicated with that server for the very same reason.

Devices they would ultimately destroy, while Clinton had the server itself scrubbed. All because he dickered and dallied with the DOJ over the political optics and simply didn't do his job as he should have.

The case was clear, cut, and dried. He didn't have to build it but simply collect all the irrefutable evidence before any of it could be tampered with or destroyed, which was precisely what happened.

Similarly, when the DNC believed it's server had been hacked and quite possibly by a foreign power, Comey once again had the law and an a reasonable suspicion it had been broken on his side to get a warrant and seize that server for a complete forensic analysis to see if that suspicion was in fact true or not.

We can only imagine what the outcome might have been had he simply done his duty on those occasions. If the DOJ refused to prosecute Clinton, Comey could have gone public and put his job on the line to force the issue with a better than average chance he would have won. The matter of the DNC hack or leak could also have been decisively resolved instead of still being out there and being speculated about and quite possibly unfairly damaging US and international relations with Russia as a result.

Democrats in November: Comey is unfit! He must resign!

Democrats today: I can't believe Trump fired Comey! Nixon Russia Nixon Russia!

Please make more of these posts, and use more capital letters next time so it really stands out. Every time someone makes a post like this, it sounds like a defense and makes me find both the events themselves and the reason for these posts to be suspicious.

Basically what I'm saying is that this post makes me more sure there were nefarious goings on or else people would let the investigation(s) continue and conclude instead of trying as hard as they can to deflect and defend. So thank you for reaffirming my belief that his campaign had some very bad apples.

As petgiraffe said (and I am not a paid soros shill or whatever)

It's hard for me to see any U.S. ties to Russia…except for the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing and the Tillerson thing and the Sessions thing and the Kushner thing and the Carter Page thing and the Roger Stone thing and the Felix Sater thing and the Boris Ephsteyn thing and the Rosneft thing and the Gazprom thing and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing and the Azerbajain thing and the “I love Putin” thing and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing and the Sergey Kislyak thing and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing and the Russian Business Interests thing and the Emoluments Clause thing and the Alex Schnaider thing and the hack of the DNC thing and the Guccifer 2.0 thing and the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing and the Russians mysteriously dying thing and the Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing and the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing and the Cyprus bank thing and the Trump not releasing his tax returns thing and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing and the election hacking thing and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing and the Steele Dossier thing and the Leninist Bannon thing and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing and the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing and the Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing and the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing and the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing and the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord SUDDENLY in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing and the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by trump in the trump university scandal appointed to head the investigation thing and the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing and the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing and the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing and the Agent M16 following the money thing and the trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing and the Corey Lewendowski thing and the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against trump to a state level Schneiderman thing and the Betsy Devos' Brother thing and the Sebastian Gorka thing and the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing and the pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing and the Pence and Manafort connection thing and the 7 Allies coming forward with audio where trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing and the carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list AND NOW the trump wants to VETO Sally Yates' testimony thing!!!

So no there is no DEFINITE PROOF and yes the innocent til proven guilty thing should apply but if you're really a "free thinker" you should maybe see there COULD be something.

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The Flynn stuff appears to be blown out of preportion and wildly skewed.

I really doubt at the time Flynn was in Russia that he was aware of the possibility that he'd be chosen to be in Trump's administration.

It seems he was doing something similar to what the Clintons have been doing which should quickly render the whole thing moot since alot of these people talking about Flynn would have liked Hillary in the white house.

Hillary would have been subject to much greater amounts of foreign influence, and she was going to be president. Why is nobody talking about that?

It's the only thing keeping them from admitting they were wrong. This is all about not admitting they were wrong.

Because it doesn't take a genius or critical thinking. But once you apply critical thinking it becomes even more clear.

Removed. Rule 6.

did his security clearance get revoked?

got it.

cant alert trump.

surprise attack when he least expects it.

starting count.

2,447 days

That only matters when it gets leaked to the public. We all know intelligence people are all up in each other's business. If there was something there, he would have seen it.

Clapper is not even on Trumps side. When Trump makes bullshit claims like wiretapping, he calls him out on it. Clapper tells it like it is.