I want to know about Rothschild's central banking system. I think most of the world's government's would need to immediately reform or face revolutions. The amount of money out there flowing to the wealthy elite is disgusting.
The proof for me is that they control more than 50% of the worlds wealth and in todays modern, technologically advanced society, there are still millions of people
dying
of starvation.
The truth is almost the opposite. There are actually only eight countries with central banks that have
any
form of private shareholders, and those have many restrictions: Belgium, Greece, Italy, Japan, South Africa, Switzerland, Turkey, and the United States.
Related free working paper: "Private Shareholding and Public Interest: An Analysis of an Eclectic Group of Central Banks", Jannie Rossouw, Economic Research Southern Africa, 2014,
ERSA working paper 457 at econrsa.org (PDF)
There's no evidence that the Rothschilds own or control
any
central banks.
I read that one of the Rothchild brothers sold all his stocks in England to trick people into following his lead and doing the same. Then went and bought up everyone's stocks to gain cheap control of England's money. Heard a lot of creepy stuff about them.
This is a popular myth promoted leading by film-maker, Bill Still (The Money Masters) and G. Edward Griffin, (The Creature From Jekyll Island) there was never a crash of the British stock market, and as claimed by both conspiracy theorists, easily seen by referencing the charts/data of this period.
In other-words, the Rothschild's never took over the Bank of England...
The enduring Rothschild myth centers on the London Stock Exchange, the battle of Waterloo and Nathan Rothschild. The story is most famously told in the film ‘The Money Masters’, produced by Bill Still. In the movie Still tells us that Nathan had posted an observer by the name of Ruthworth at the battle of Waterloo. His mission was to ascertain the victor and relay this information back to Nathan before the general public could become aware.
The result of this battle would have had significant consequences on the value of British bonds (“consols”) since a victorious Napoleon would present a credible threat to the British government. As it so happened, Napoleon was defeated and Mr. Ruthworth dutifully relayed this information to Nathan days before official informants could do the same.
Nathan then spreads the rumour that Napoleon was, in fact, victorious. The Rothschild’s intelligence network was legendary and investors believed what they were hearing was genuine. This caused a panicked sell-off of British consols at the London Stock Exchange. Nathan used this opportunity to purchase huge amounts of these securities and when news of the genuine victor reached London, he profited immensely from the trade. With the vast amounts of wealth he now controlled Nathan was able to bring the British government and Bank of England under his influence.
People are purposefully made stupid and that ignorance is used to control them. Who is it that created the education system in America? Rockefeller. Who is it that set up the standards of academia in this country? The rich. I think everyone should read more and learn as much as they can.
The truth is almost the opposite. There are actually only eight countries with central banks that have
any
form of private shareholders, and those have many restrictions: Belgium, Greece, Italy, Japan, South Africa, Switzerland, Turkey, and the United States.
Related free working paper: "Private Shareholding and Public Interest: An Analysis of an Eclectic Group of Central Banks", Jannie Rossouw, Economic Research Southern Africa, 2014,
ERSA working paper 457 at econrsa.org (PDF)
There's no evidence that the Rothschilds own or control
any
central banks.
Monkeys do not believe in God either, because they haven't evolved and developed the mental capacity yet.... so where does that put you as far as how "evolved" you are personally? just below someone who can comprehend "God"
Monkeys do not believe in God either, because they haven't evolved and developed the mental capacity yet.... so where does that put you as far as how "evolved" you are personally?
you are very, very stupid. Religion was an invention of the elite to keep the people in line. Some people are so fucking stupid that they still believe in it today, people like you, and your family. It's sad, and its fucking pathetic to know that people as stupid as you exist freely, and you breed. Please so us all a favor and remove yourself from the gene pool by any means necessary.
the truth is, you can't prove that you have personally evolved.
you can't even prove anyone in your family has evolved
i didn't ask for regurgitation of someone else's science experiments, I'm asking why you don't follow the scientific method and replicate the experiments you assume support your opinions.
yes, i am very stupid. i am aware of this fact.
you are also very stupid, but are not aware of this fact.
which one of us has the advantage, mr einstein?
i like your last paragraph, it lets me know I'm living inside your head rent-free
the truth is, you can't prove that you have personally evolved.
personally
How the fuck are you this stupid? I showed you hard eveidence that evolution is true. Why dont you show me hard evidence of creation?
i didn't ask for regurgitation of someone else's science experiments, I'm asking why you don't follow the scientific method and replicate the experiments you assume support your opinions.
No, i will talk about scientific discoveries, you worthless sack of shit. How many scientific studies have you accomplished in order to prove creation? Oh wait that;s right, you're not smart enough to understand basic science, to the point that you read a fictional, 1000 year old book as truth.
you are also very stupid, but are not aware of this fact.
You call me stupid because of how worthless you are as a person, and you can't understand basic science. I call you stupid out of pure, unbiased observation.
like your last paragraph, it lets me know I'm living inside your head rent-free
"hahaha im so fucking stupid that this guy on the internet can't believe how stupid me and my family is, hahaha clearly im the better man"
the creature doubts the existence of his creator? this is rich.
No sense, no evidence.
when you say scientific discoveries, you mean like the peer reviewed work that Dr Wakefield did?
You have shown me nothing.
its not my responsibility to prove creation. I'm only here to mock your silly pseudoscience beliefs.
Worthless and ignorant. All these millions of years of evolution, and we get worthless, ignorant people like you. you have still given me nothing.
if you actually understood science, would you believe that men walked on the moon?
What the fuck?
you realize that memorizing some trivia long enough to pass a multiple choice test doesn't actually make you a scientist right?
seriously what the fuck?
and you are just an idiot, being trolled...
So you act stupid, get called stupid, and then, the big twist ending is that you are such a lonely, worthless, unlovable faggot that you act like shit on purpose?
Money is paper & its truly worthless. It's only worth something because we've been brainwashed to believe it is. There's also more of us than them. We should be burning this fucker down ourselves.
Money is "worthless" yet is able to acquire goods and services, uh?...
If you believe such pointless "memes" may you upload a video of all your savings placed together where you burn all of it? No...? Again, you're repeating irrelevant slogans, they're platitudes.
Money is "worthless" yet is able to acquire goods and services
Right. Money is fiat, meaning it is worthless, and it's value is enforced by government edict. A society that allocates resources appropriately has no use for money, and money itself is what oppresses us.
"Money is fiat, meaning it is worthless, and it's value is enforced by government edict."
Its contradictory merely to claim "money is worthless" yet its "value is enforced by government edict." If money holds no "value" as you claim, then how is the "value" of money to be enforced by law? You are accepting two opposing ideas and believing both to be true.
"A society that allocates resources appropriately has no use for money..."
So you believe in a "moneyless" society even though no such society ever existed in the recorded history that did not
use a form of money for the exchanging of someone's labor and production as represented in any "medium" or unit of account.
"...and money itself is what oppresses us."
Its too simplistic to state as such, ask yourself why you believe this to be the case when all money does is account and is exchanged for goods and services. How is persons agreeing upon trade between each other oppressive?
Is it merely the medium that measures the value of exchange; or is it a manipulation of the nature of money itself that makes "money" oppressive? (For example, if someone requested you to paint a room which would take 3 hours, how is agreeing upon a price that accounted for your time and labor, harmful to you, to be paid for in money?)
You should think this through more FuckenUnCuckeD, do you really believe any exchange is harmful or is it the manipulated effects of money that makes it the exploitative medium?
Some quotes that I had saved while reading through some old books, it may help to summarize.
“The sole use of currency is to facilitate the great process of exchange, by superseding the necessity for barter. Nor has it any other use than what is either directly or indirectly incidental to this purpose. For were it the case in any country, that no one therein had ever occasion to exchange any property or privilege which he possessed, or any service that he could render, for something which another possessed or could render in return; or, that only such exchanges were desired as barter could readily accomplish; then, in such country, currency would manifestly be of no use, nor indeed would it have any existence.” – Edwin Hill (1856, Principles of Currency: Means of Ensuring Uniformity of Value and Adequacy of Supply, page 55)
“The money of a country is that thing, whatever it may be, which is commonly accepted in exchange for labor or property and in payment of debts, whether so accepted by force of law, or by universal consent. Its value does not arise from the intrinsic qualities which the material of which it is made may possess, but depends entirely on the extrinsic qualities which law, or general consent, may confer.” — John P. Jones (1890, Speech of Hon. John P. Jones, of Nevada. May 12 And 13, p. 65)
“The logic of the situation, and the reasoning of all the leading authorities on money, lead irresistibly to the conclusion that its value does not reside in the material, but in the stamp; in other words, on the legal-tender function impressed on that material. It is an order for property and services.” — John P. Jones (1890, Speech of Hon. John P. Jones, of Nevada. May 12 And 13, p. 65)
“The true money standard of any country is not the material of which the money is made. The standard is not a concrete object, but a numerical relation. It is the relation between the number of units composing the monetary circulation of the country and the numbers of the population. It is the legal-tender function that constitutes money. It is the power which the law imparts to any material to pay debts and liquidate obligations. It can not for a moment be doubted that the money function, being conferred by the supreme authority, is the all-sufficient guarantee of the money value. There is no necessity for re-enforcing that value with any inferior value that may attach to the material on which the money stamp is placed. The money function is immeasurably the most important that can be conferred by society upon any material, and it is absurd to urge that that function is not of itself sufficient for the maintenance of the value of money. All the value that money can possibly have the totality of value that can exist in the shape of money in any country will attach to anything upon which the sovereign authority stamps it, whether the material on which the stamp is placed be gold, silver, paper, or anything else.” — John P. Jones (1890, Speech of Hon. John P. Jones, of Nevada. May 12 And 13, p. 78-79)
“Two persons having an equal amount of money or an equal quantity of goods, wares and merchandise, cannot both make money out of each other. What one gains the other loses. This rule is true of any number of persons, may, it is applicable to all of the individuals of a nation. It is only when there is an increase of the original capital that there is a legitimate object of commercial pursuit. It is the same when the amounts of original capital are dissimilar, the proportions must be maintained or there is trickery or injustice, not to say robbery.” – Charles H. Robinson (1898, The Destruction of Poverty, p. 127)
“A token issued by one is received by all and their products are transferred in consequence thereof. The circulation of the token rests upon this proposition: That the holder has in the token, an order on each and all of his neighbors for their surplus products. By common consent they pass from one to another, and thus facilitate the easy transmutation of one man’s labor into something else desired by him. But is this not the exact purpose of all trade, local, national, universal? Can Commerce find any other design for her varied million daily exchanges, except that one set of men prefer, above their own, the manual creations of their neighbors? The final analysis of the motives for all trading leads to this simple fact, that each finds his advantage in the transfer of his surplus product.” — Taylor Rogers (1897, Scientific Money, p. 13)
“Money is like railroads, a mere implement of exchange. Scientifically it ought not to be a commodity. As it is a mere medium to effect exchanges, its volume should be regulated with reference to the value of products in course of each exchange. This could never be done by taking a commodity of extremely limited volume in nature, like gold or silver, and stamping it as money.” — Hon. Thomas V. Cator, of San Francisco (Quoted in Taylor Rogers “Scientific Money” 1897, p. 83)
Its far to simplistic to state such, ask yourself why you believe this to be the case when all that money does is an accounting system in the exchange of someone's labor and production. You can study the history of money throughout any period and people have always used a "medium" represented in any material that accounted for the exchanging of goods and services. Again, a "moneyless" society has never existed that did not tokenize the work of others.
If money holds no "value" as you claim, then how is the "value" of money to be enforced by law?
Because the government has power, everyone else adheres to this edict. Money is worthless, but you will not get any resources without it, because everybody is forced to participate or perish.
So you believe in a "moneyless" society even though no such society ever existed in the recorded history that did not use a form of money for the exchanging of someone's labor and production as represented in any "medium" or unit of account.
Yes
Its too simplistic to state as such
No, it's really not, once you understand that capital = money, and capital
ism
means money
ism
. Let me ask you this: In as few words as possible, what is the purpose of capitalism? Why do we have it?
do you really believe any exchange is harmful or is it the manipulated effects of money that makes it the exploitative medium?
This is a nonsensical question, and I did not say that exchange is harmful.
Because the government has power, everyone else adheres to this edict. Money is worthless, but you will not get any resources without it, because everybody is forced to participate or perish.
How can money process no value and be worthless, yet is redeemable for goods and services; and acquired by labor and production of the populace. If you believe money has no value, why do you process to acquire it, and work as such? Its easy to blame the negative effects of money upon "money" when a mere exchange causes no injury, do you blame the object which kills a person, or the influence that held malice intent to kill, its the same illogical reasoning.
No, it's really not, once you understand that capital = money, and capitalism means moneyism. Let me ask you this: In as few words as possible, what is the purpose of capitalism? Why do we have it?
Capitalism and Socialism are both means for unjust exploitation; an unjust system of exchange in commerce that is based upon Free Enterprise causes no injury.
This is a nonsensical question, and I did not say that exchange is harmful.
Why would you advocate for a "moneyless" society then should you not see trade and commerce as bad? If money only represents labor earned and received from the overall pool of wealth in a society, why seek a "moneyless" society? It sounds contradictory.
How can money process no value and be worthless, yet is redeemable for goods and services;
Are you stupid? I already answered that. Government has power, government enforces edict, forces everyone to participate, to the point where we are powerless to the economic system of moneyism.
why do you process to acquire it, and work as such?
Because I was born into it, and I don't have a choice, and neither do you.
do you blame the object which kills a person, or the influence that held malice intent to kill
If someone gets shot, I blame the shooter. Honestly, your arguments are pretty pathetic. You're really not grasping this very simple concept.
Capitalism and Socialism are both means for unjust exploitation; an unjust system of exchange in commerce that is based upon Free Enterprise causes no injury.
Oops, you used to word socialism, now you have to provide me with a definition because you probably have no idea what it means, other than what you read in a Glen Beck book. I will not continue this discussion until you define socialism accurately.
If money only represents labor earned and received from the overall pool of wealth in a society, why seek a "moneyless" society?
because the idea of money is counterproductive to human survival, and it not at all necessary for allocating resources.
Are you stupid? I already answered that. Government has power, government enforces edict, forces everyone to participate, to the point where we are powerless to the economic system of moneyism.
Sure, but this does not make money itself bad though; or as you say is "oppressing us."
What is a "Government" but mere that governance established by the sect or tribe of people of the community which elects their representatives. How you detest money for all these negative ills seems like how you're likely to obfuscate this mere primitive formation of a state of governance in the same manner; rather than the influences of money upon both exploitative concepts.
“Anarchy, in the United States, is not even surmisable. We are all anarchists, for we pull down and build up to our heart’s content. We make the laws and change them as we will. Every election is an upheaval, a revolution, ofttimes a bloody riot. We change, reform, alter, subvert, remodel the government according to our fancies. We never get it just right, so we keep on eternally taking it apart, patching and repairing it. We abuse, vilify, calumniate, destroy our rulers with impunity, for we put them over us and we can pull them down again if dissatisfied with them.” – Charles H. Robinson (1898, The Destruction of Poverty, p. 28)
Because I was born into it, and I don't have a choice, and neither do you.
This is a victim-mentality though, the people of the society choose and volunteer with each of their consents and influences; the above quote summarizes well.
Oops, you used to word socialism, now you have to provide me with a definition because you probably have no idea what it means, other than what you read in a Glen Beck book. I will not continue this discussion until you define socialism accurately.
Capitalism and Socialism both seek to exploit the subject people,
"Capitalism" seeks unearned gains through such a monetary
system that claims to be providing us a service, in pretending to loan us money and charging interest upon deceptions when nothing is risked by the banks other than the mere cost of publishing the banknotes. In return the banks dis-posses all ever acquired and produced merely by claiming to be lending us our own money that we monetize ourselves.
Socialism, is likewise the unearned exploitation of the producer that is forced to pay for taxes which is earned, provided to those who are able too, but does not to acquire the income from others. Both are parasitic existences, although side-effects of the monetary system. Yet, "money" itself is of no injury when uncorrupted.
Political ideologies are more reactionary states of mind caused through the financial system, than anything else and for each period of time and history.
"You are in the hands and at the mercy of our great financial system. You do not understand why you are foreclosed and thrown out, and you change your politics, voting for some other party than the last one you voted for, but you do not get your home back, the juggernaut of American finance rolls along, crushing out the breath, blood and bones of its victims without cessation." - Charles H. Robinson (1898, The Destruction of Poverty, p. 146)
because the idea of money is counterproductive to human survival, and it not at all necessary for allocating resources.
Do you see money as barter? Money supersedes barter, allowing the exchange of goods and services in a uniform trade, (ie. I want something you have, yet you don't want anything I have to trade) its nothing more which allocates the exchanging of time, labor, production and "resources" acquired if you will.
Yes is does. The use of money has a whole has no real value, and it is not necessary for allocating resources. You are not answering any of my questions, you are only repeating yourself.
What is a "Government" but merely that governance established by the sect or tribe of people of the community
I did not choose to have a government, and the only people capable of running for office have to have millions of dollars just for people to know what their name is. What if I don't want a leader? What if I don't want to live in this system? What if I, many other people, afree that we want to live in a different, less oppressive system? Too bad, because are forced to use this system, and so are you.
Anarchy, in the United States, is not even surmisable
Dude, holy fuck... come on, you need to know
something
useful. There would indeed be no "anarchy in the United states" because in anarchism, there would be no countries, because countries aren't real in the first place. What I mean by this, is that the idea of a country, is nothing more than an imaginary line- that's it. The fences are real, the people are real, the M4's are real, but the line itself is imaginary. Like money, countries serve no real purpose rather than to serve it's leaders, and protect itself from other countries. In anarchism, there would be neither.
"Capitalism" seeks unearned gains through such a monetary system that claims to be providing us a service, in pretending to loan us money and charging interest upon deceptions when nothing is risked by the banks other than the mere cost of publishing the banknotes
What in the ever loving fuck are you talking about? This makes absolutely 0 sense. Capitalism is when the means of production, goods of production, instruments of labor, and means of labor are all privately owned, and exist solely for the purpose of producing capital, in order to receive resources from other owners of these resources.
For example, take the healthcare industry. What is the purpose of the healthcare industry? To heal people? Fuck no- it's to make money. Sure, a cure for cancer would make millions of dollars, as would a cure for HIV; nay cure for any disease could be sold for a lot of money, but after a while, you will start to see a decline in sick people. Less people are coming to you or healthcare. You are in effect,
losing customers
. The healthcare industry is not trying to come up for cures for diseases, they are instead researching profitable treatments. Why? Because curing a disease is
bad for business
. If their job was to heal people, their industry would shrink, and they want the opposite. Apply this formula to everything that exists to understand capitalism better.
Socialism, is likewise the unearned exploitation of the producer that is forced to pay for taxes which is earned, provided to those who are able too, but does not to acquire the income from others
Again, this makes absolutely no sense. not because it's wrong, but because I think that you honestly have not quite mastered the concept of writing a complete sentence.
Socialism is when the workers own and control the means of production, as well as the instruments of production and labor, and use them in order to create a system of resource allocation controlled by the workers directly. They wouldn't own it because of socialism- they own it because they are the ones fucking making it. The concept of ownership, is something else that does not quite meet the standards of existence.
Political ideologies are more reactionary states of mind caused through the financial system, than anything else and for each period of time and history.
I can't tell if your a smug 9 year old or a smug and very stupid 40 year old.
You are in the hands and at the mercy of our great financial system. You do not understand why you are foreclosed and thrown out, and you change your politics, voting for some other party than the last one you voted for, but you do not get your home back, the juggernaut of American finance rolls along, crushing out the breath, blood and bones of its victims without cessation." - Charles H. Robinson (1898, The Destruction of Poverty, p. 146)
This is in agreement with
my
argument, not yours you fucking idiot. This is saying that the economic system does not give a fuck about human needs, and if you don't have the capital for fucking shelter they grab you and your family by the throats and knock you out on your asses and leave you for dead.
Money supersedes barter
No, it's the same fucking thing. Money is just a placeholder for resources.
Yes is does. The use of money has a whole has no real value, and it is not necessary for allocating resources. You are not answering any of my questions, you are only repeating yourself.
Its ridiculous to keep claiming that money represents nothing of value, you've not attempted to explain why, merely keep repeating this claim; nor have you provided us with a logical reason why or how a "moneyless" society can be beneficial to a populace.
Take for example the homeless, are they not living your "moneyless" society ideals? Or the poor countries without much money, they're in fact clear test-cases of all that you seek. How is this looking for them, uh? Why not move in with the homeless...
I did not choose to have a government, and the only people capable of running for office have to have millions of dollars just for people to know what their name is. What if I don't want a leader? What if I don't want to live in this system? What if I, many other people, afree that we want to live in a different, less oppressive system? Too bad, because are forced to use this system, and so are you.
Sure, all influenced by the monetary system that has subverted each and every nation. You're already volunteering to be governed by such in processing the status of citizenship; therefore you're subjected to the laws of such jurisdictions. You can move and change your domicile along with those like you. What's stopping you all? Its easy to hold a victim-mentality. It explains why you oppose the usage of money.
Dude, holy fuck... come on, you need to know something useful. There would indeed be no "anarchy in the United states" because in anarchism, there would be no countries, because countries aren't real in the first place. What I mean by this, is that the idea of a country, is nothing more than an imaginary line- that's it. The fences are real, the people are real, the M4's are real, but the line itself is imaginary. Like money, countries serve no real purpose rather than to serve it's leaders, and protect itself from other countries. In anarchism, there would be neither.
So now you're claiming money is a fiction, and not real? If you remove the idea of the State, even in your own home there is a governance, claiming everything is a fiction and imaginary etc., soon becomes tiring. Do you use your birth name, uh? Yet, you do recognise this "legal fiction..."
As for the healthcare industry, no one is forcing you to be treated by a doctor. Its easy to conflate "Capitalism" and "Free Enterprise" to then detest money, rather than its subverted nature. The same with Governments, however big or small. You can research the move from sect-tribe, to village, to towns and holds and countries, States and nations and they always are influenced by the growth of commerce. It actually explains and reflects why you detest money and no rules of society.
This is in agreement with my argument, not yours you fucking idiot. This is saying that the economic system does not give a fuck about human needs, and if you don't have the capital for fucking shelter they grab you and your family by the throats and knock you out on your asses and leave you for dead.
Sure, although this is all influenced by the monetary system that causes such dis-possessions upon society, not in the functions of money itself.
No, it's the same fucking thing. Money is just a placeholder for resources.
Well then, money represents property and that property or as you like to subscribe "resources" processes value, your "placeholder" yet to keep claiming money as no value is to claim that "resource" services nothing of value to be acquired.
Everything you just claimed, I have already debunked in my previous rebutals.
This response
that you just typed out is a clear indication of how ignorant and stupid you are. Ignorance means that you lack knowledge, but stupidity means that you lack the mental capacity to gain knowledge, or use logic and reason to change your beliefs with the introduction of new information. You are pathetic, and you should be embarrassed.
Show and prove; you have nothing to provide us with other than childish name-calling.
Why don't you present 1 mere test-case in history where the people lived under a "moneyless" society, not using any form of exchange and where this was beneficial to the population, surely it cannot be that hard, uh? ROFL...
Why don't you present 1 mere test-case in history where the people lived under a "moneyless" society
Because it has never happened before you fucking dipshit. We didn't have the technology to create a global system of resource allocation that would make money obsolete until 30, maybe 40 years ago. You're so fucking stupid, all I can do is laugh.
Well then, a "moneyless" society is not a law of nature. This sole fact that you are still waiting on the available technology shows such appeals are unnatural.
No one is going to produce something for free and allow a non-productive person to come and acquire whatever was made, whether an house or a meal etc. whatever. The state of degeneracy is shown by a test-case in Africa of a "moneyless" region where the locals use the open beaches as toilets.
Its a mindless endeavor and goes against the natural conditions of acceptances between parties in acquiring eachother's work traded in money has represented in any form of material. If you did not seek to exploit another, you wouldn't have an issue with solving the monetary system away from the dispossession by banks and interest. "money" when not corrupted is merely an accounting system nothing more.
Well then, a "moneyless" society is not a law of nature
right, it's totally possible for us to not be smart enough to ever achieve it, you have made that quite clear.
No one is going to produce something for free
The phrase "for free" only exists in a world where everything costs money. There would be no such thing as "free stuff" because everyone would have equal access to resources.
allow a non-productive person to come and acquire whatever was made
We already do that, and the vast majority of our jobs are completely obsolete and only exist in a world of capitalism. If we lived in a money-less society, automation would be a good thing, instead of here where it takes away jobs. As advanced as our technology is, it is only advanced in the ways of capitalism. Everything has planned obsolescence. We also don't know two things: 1. We don't know what our current understanding of the sciences is even capable of, we have only seen it
try
to exist under capitalism. 2. We don't know what kind of new technology the elite (government, military, billionaires) possess and hide from the world.
The state of degeneracy is shown by a test-case in Africa and India
Dude you are impossibly stupid. In no way, shape, or form does Africa and India resemble anything close to what I'm talking about. They do not live in a moneyless society, and the people who live in shit, and don't use money at all
STILL LIVE IN CAPITALISM, THEY JUST HAVE NO CAPITAL. THEY LIVE IN SHIT BECAUSE OF POVERTY.
If you did not seek to exploit another, you wouldn't have an issue with resolving the monetary system away from the banks and interest. The "money" when not corrupted is merely an accounting system nothing else.
This makes
NO GRAMMATICAL SENSE WHAT SO EVER
.
You are so fucking stupid, and I really don't mean that as an insult; I mean it as an objective observation. You are completely incapable of understanding something that you are not familiar with. Enjoy your cognitive dissonance.
Money is paper & its truly worthless. It's only worth something because we've been brainwashed to believe it is. There's also more of us than them. We should be burning this fucker down ourselves.
The fact that wealthy and powerful people are involved in child trafficking and child abuse. Our entire political and judicial system is compromised through sexual blackmail. True in the US, in the UK, in Belgium...
really, so Julian Assange saying that the Russian claims are shit is part of the conspiracy, the FBI refusing to touch the claims, while the fake news MSM that agrees with you are the truth tellers.
It's common knowledge that Russia hacked the dnc. But that's all they did. They got all of the data about the illegal activities people like podesta and Clinton were doing and released it through wikileaks. They did this in order to manipulate the American publics mindset hoping that the election would be swayed. Nothing untoward. Just some stolen emails.
And when I say hacked, I mean a simple spearphishing scam. That's all.
Your "common knowledge" has no relationship to "what actually happened outside the fake news MSM". Wikileaks categorically said that the Russians were not involved, and the person who gave the data to wikileaks
also
said that the Russians had nothing to do with it.
They did this in order to manipulate the American publics mindset hoping that the election would be swayed.
This is pure, 100% propaganda speaking. You want to know what propaganda is? Just look at yourself.
Look:
" They did this in order to"
and
"...hoping that the election would be swayed"
The reasoning, the emotional affect so loved by media manipulators, is completely made up but MSM fake news, and you've been completely fooled. Fuck, you're not meant to
repeat it!
, just believe it. Anyone who claims to know the emotional reasoning behind such actions is an obvious fool. Who told you the reasoning of whoever leaked those emails? This is obvious propaganda.
This is huge. It is a giant red flag proving the agenda of the Rothschild/jewish/NWO elites to attempt to destroy the white/European peoples via mass immigration of non-whites.
It blew my mind when I read it the first time. All those times where people said "there's no plan to get rid of white people" are rebutted with there literally being a plan for it.
Not only that, but Merkel got the Coudenhove-Kalergi award for her European efforts.
Which makes you realise that she's only failing at her job, if you think she's trying to save Germany.
That our current understanding of ww2 and the holocaust has been purposefully manipulated and falsified in order to demonize nationalism and promote their goal of a NWO as well as giving jews a "get out of jail free" card so to speak because everyones afraid of being labeled an anti-semite just for asking a question.
Side note: I am not denying that the holocaust happened to some extent, I just dont think what weve been told is the truth about it
You are right. This issue is SO HUGE. They Holyhoax lie provides the ideological foundation for the jewish/NWO agenda of seeking to destroy all white nations with mass immigration -- i.e., by saying that any whites/Europeans who oppose mass immigration are "racist Nazis" etc.
Red Cross records show that around 280,000 people died in the German-run camps, and probably less than half of those were jews. The deaths were overwhelmingly caused by typhus and other diseases, which resulted because of the general breakdown in conditions inside Germany and Poland due to the war. There was no plan to mass murder the inmates at the camps.
The sacred "6 million" number is a Kaballistic figure that was claimed dozens of times by the jews in the decades before WW2. The German WW2 camps were only internment and slave labor camps to intern perceived threats in a war-time environment -- similar to camps run by the U.S. government in which they interned Americans of Japanese and German ancestry on U.S. soil during the war.
You dont because they don't give a fuck about you like they dont give a fuck about me. Idk why everyone always immediately reacts like people are saying every single jewish person on the planet is involved in the conspiracy. Its the elite like the koch brothers and the rothschilds and other old jewish money families that are the problem. They use the front of the jewish religion to push their agendas. Not that i think christianity or islam is any better, they all do the same shit, it just so happens jewish money is the oldest because they were the only religion that allowed usury during the conception of banks in human history.
The white race is being killed off by the elite class that runs and controls Western civilization. All anyone needs to do is look, and they will see this happening all around them. A few points to ponder:
white birth rates are falling around the world
whites are encouraged by the media, which shapes popular culture, to have fewer babies and to have them later in life
abortion is encouraged and facilitated
birth control is encouraged and facilitated
the institution of marrage is under attack in white nations
inter-racial sexual relationships are heavily pushed by the media
homosexuality is encouraged
trans-genderism is encouraged
the Christian religion (which supports white traditions) is under heavy assault
men are being feminized and emasculated across the West
women are told that they should act like men (i.e., not have babies)
career women are held up as the ideal; women who raise their own children are looked upon with contempt
massive non-white immigration is being forced upon Western nations (and only on white nations)
whites are trained in the schools and the media to have contempt for their history and their heritage
anyone who champions white heritage is automatically branded a racist and a Nazi
the history of the white race is massively distorted in the schools
white children, and only white children, are taught in the schools and media to hate their own race
And here's another "secret" as to WHY the jewish/NWO elites are trying to do this. The white/European peoples (especially the Anglo-Saxon and Germanic peoples) are the REAL descendants of the Israelites. This is a Satanic plan to attempt to destroy the true chosen people.
Also, of course, the white/European peoples and nations are the most powerful in the world and are the biggest opposition and obstacle to the jewish/NWO elites and their plan for a totalitarian Satanic one-world government.
Well you put together a list of a lot of problens but very few if any of them are strictly white problems, and some of them affect white people much less than they do other races like the sterilization and forced abortions on blacks all throughout america. Also i have no idea wtf youre talking about, in school my history book was practically "americas the fuckin greatest man, guns, liberty and manifest Destiny am i right guys"
I think this is the most important to know because many claim it is their last "enemy" care that they will use on us to gain final control. It seems like it's coming now too.
That the NWO agenda is ultimately Satanic, and that right now it is being run by ethnic jews, and that the jews are NOT Israelites (but are rather literal children of Satan, see John 8:44), and that the religion of Judaism is not the Old Testament religion of the Israelites but is actually Satanism (see Matthew 23:15, Revelation 2:9).
A lot of topics in here are definitely more important or potentially world-changing, but not a day goes by when I wonder when the moon hoax is going to expire and what will happen when it does.
That the fractional reserve system creates an unpayable debt upon which the entire system is falsely predicated. Scarcity is real; the holders of the reins lack a just claim.
We Live in an illusion. A holograph. One designed to enslave us and keep us blind to our many shackles. It's a spiritual war for our very minds and souls where we've all been programmed to be soulless automatons.
Their is way more going on here than we can understand.
There's really just
one
conspiracy. It's the enslavement of the human race and the forced conditioning that is self perpetuated from parent to child. This is what it is... They are using mental manipulation combined with time to force our race to adapt and evolve to
their
mold (whoever they are is besides the point). They have successfully removed a large portion of our humanity and compassion towards our own race and are continuing to do so at this very moment. They are also conditioning our bodies through means of chemical interference in the air we breath, the water we drink and the food we consume. This is removing our ability to critically think and is also poisoning us so that we never reach our full potential. Any conspiracy we discuss ties into this. It's all connected to us and the potential that we once had (and still do, really). I personally think we're on the verge of a comeback though.
I want people to know that religion is the original conspiracy.
Why? Because religion is the original conspiracy that blends cultural expressions with mysticism and authoritarianism. Early religion "started" as a way to explain things that were not understood but quickly became a way to keep the masses in line. Opiate for the masses, indeed.
Even today, even among conspiracy theorists, you still have the vast majority who believe the same bullshit lies that constructed the power structures they rail against.
Curiosity. I value other people opinions, and I also learn new things everyday here, and theres always a concrete source to back it up. Not collecting info on anyone, just some guy who wants to hear from you. I understand your cancern though. There are millions of shills out there, and it's no secret.
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You are all stuck on 2D conspiracies.. still eyeing governments and Rothschilds lol.
Get on my level and start looking into astrology correlations with current events, and study chakras, numerology, dip your toe back into r/conspiracy time to time to see what page everyone else is on still, and realize that everything that Tila Tequila talks about in her latest YouTube videos is real. Despite how fucking crazy she sounds, please pay attention to all her videos. Don't be closed minded, put the pieces together. If you want to know the truth you won't be a hater and you will head my advice.
Omg I know how crazy I sound right now but everyone on here is seeking the truth and I am trying really hard to make sure this information gets out there (even though I know there will be haters)
Every single event will correlate with some astrological sign, correlation ≠ causation
chakras
fake
numerology
Super fake
Tila Tequila
irrelevant porn star is irrelevant
Don't be closed minded
Fair enough, link me and I will watch them.
Omg I know how crazy I sound right now
You do, but if you link me what you want me to watch, I will watch these videos without forming any opinions before hand, and I will let you know what I think. You do sound crazy, but I will definitely give this a chance. Who knows, maybe you're onto something.
I prefer the term "person who has a realistic view of the world"
You can't call something fake without doing the diligence to find out what it is and how it works
I did, and it's fake. Astrology is fake, chakras aren't real, and numerology is fake as well. the burden of proof is on
YOU
to prove that they are real.
Great investigation skills. A+ , I hope you find the truth you're seeking down the rabbit hole with THAT mentality.
Dude you didn't post any videos. I'm giving you a fair chance, please post what you want me to see and I will give it a fair chance.
Really that's kind of embarrassing to have that kind of mentality when you're on a conspiracy/truth seeking forum.
It's closed minded and radiates ignorance. why don't you actually look up the things mentioned, and understand how it works before you dismiss it.
I didn't want to end up on r/conspiracy, I got here when pizzagate broke back in November and I've been falling down the rabbit hole ever since. And I thought flat earth was a psy ops, and that Tila was MK ultra'd and a psy ops too, bitch sounds crazy- but she is right.
Just pay attention. You're not going to get very far in finding the truth if you shut down ideas you disagree with or don't understand/ find ridiculous. That's exactly what I did, and guess what. Here I am, trying to talk to a hater.
Well then, a "moneyless" society is not a law of nature
right, it's totally possible for us to not be smart enough to ever achieve it, you have made that quite clear.
No one is going to produce something for free
The phrase "for free" only exists in a world where everything costs money. There would be no such thing as "free stuff" because everyone would have equal access to resources.
allow a non-productive person to come and acquire whatever was made
We already do that, and the vast majority of our jobs are completely obsolete and only exist in a world of capitalism. If we lived in a money-less society, automation would be a good thing, instead of here where it takes away jobs. As advanced as our technology is, it is only advanced in the ways of capitalism. Everything has planned obsolescence. We also don't know two things: 1. We don't know what our current understanding of the sciences is even capable of, we have only seen it
try
to exist under capitalism. 2. We don't know what kind of new technology the elite (government, military, billionaires) possess and hide from the world.
The state of degeneracy is shown by a test-case in Africa and India
Dude you are impossibly stupid. In no way, shape, or form does Africa and India resemble anything close to what I'm talking about. They do not live in a moneyless society, and the people who live in shit, and don't use money at all
STILL LIVE IN CAPITALISM, THEY JUST HAVE NO CAPITAL. THEY LIVE IN SHIT BECAUSE OF POVERTY.
If you did not seek to exploit another, you wouldn't have an issue with resolving the monetary system away from the banks and interest. The "money" when not corrupted is merely an accounting system nothing else.
This makes
NO GRAMMATICAL SENSE WHAT SO EVER
.
You are so fucking stupid, and I really don't mean that as an insult; I mean it as an objective observation. You are completely incapable of understanding something that you are not familiar with. Enjoy your cognitive dissonance.
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n/a my_name_is_gato 2017-04-30
I want to know about Rothschild's central banking system. I think most of the world's government's would need to immediately reform or face revolutions. The amount of money out there flowing to the wealthy elite is disgusting.
n/a StrongerTogether1 2017-04-30
The proof for me is that they control more than 50% of the worlds wealth and in todays modern, technologically advanced society, there are still millions of people dying of starvation.
n/a Tchocky 2017-04-30
Can you source this?
n/a StrongerTogether1 2017-04-30
Ofcourse I can!
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jan/16/worlds-eight-richest-people-have-same-wealth-as-poorest-50
http://fortune.com/2017/01/16/world-richest-men-income-equality/
http://uk.businessinsider.com/worlds-eight-richest-as-wealthy-as-half-humanity-oxfam-tells-davos-2017-1
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/15/news/economy/oxfam-income-inequality-men/
https://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressreleases/2017-01-16/just-8-men-own-same-wealth-half-world
n/a Tchocky 2017-04-30
I'm asking specifically about the Rothschild allegation, pardon the confusion.
n/a 14_16_22_BlisterBlue 2017-04-30
This is a hoax that was started around 2005.
The truth is almost the opposite. There are actually only eight countries with central banks that have any form of private shareholders, and those have many restrictions: Belgium, Greece, Italy, Japan, South Africa, Switzerland, Turkey, and the United States.
Source: "When private shares meet public interest", Jannie Rossouw; Adèle Breytenbach, Central Banking 22, no. 2 (Nov 2011): 85-87. Paywall protected URLs: (1) centralbanking.com (2) proquest.com
Related free working paper: "Private Shareholding and Public Interest: An Analysis of an Eclectic Group of Central Banks", Jannie Rossouw, Economic Research Southern Africa, 2014, ERSA working paper 457 at econrsa.org (PDF)
There's no evidence that the Rothschilds own or control any central banks.
n/a odysika 2017-04-30
I read that one of the Rothchild brothers sold all his stocks in England to trick people into following his lead and doing the same. Then went and bought up everyone's stocks to gain cheap control of England's money. Heard a lot of creepy stuff about them.
n/a xocit 2017-04-30
This is a popular myth promoted leading by film-maker, Bill Still (The Money Masters) and G. Edward Griffin, (The Creature From Jekyll Island) there was never a crash of the British stock market, and as claimed by both conspiracy theorists, easily seen by referencing the charts/data of this period.
In other-words, the Rothschild's never took over the Bank of England...
For furthering reading, see:
The Enduring Rothschild Myth https://www.mises.ca/the-enduring-rothschild-myth/
The result of this battle would have had significant consequences on the value of British bonds (“consols”) since a victorious Napoleon would present a credible threat to the British government. As it so happened, Napoleon was defeated and Mr. Ruthworth dutifully relayed this information to Nathan days before official informants could do the same.
Nathan then spreads the rumour that Napoleon was, in fact, victorious. The Rothschild’s intelligence network was legendary and investors believed what they were hearing was genuine. This caused a panicked sell-off of British consols at the London Stock Exchange. Nathan used this opportunity to purchase huge amounts of these securities and when news of the genuine victor reached London, he profited immensely from the trade. With the vast amounts of wealth he now controlled Nathan was able to bring the British government and Bank of England under his influence.
A fantastic tale… and a complete myth.
n/a Spider__Jerusalem 2017-04-30
People are purposefully made stupid and that ignorance is used to control them. Who is it that created the education system in America? Rockefeller. Who is it that set up the standards of academia in this country? The rich. I think everyone should read more and learn as much as they can.
n/a guenonsbitch 2017-04-30
Weapons of Mass Instruction!! I've been telling everyone I know to read this. And homeschool.
n/a logan_f 2017-04-30
free energy
n/a AIsuicide 2017-04-30
Privately owned central banks.
n/a 14_16_22_BlisterBlue 2017-04-30
This is a hoax that was started around 2005.
The truth is almost the opposite. There are actually only eight countries with central banks that have any form of private shareholders, and those have many restrictions: Belgium, Greece, Italy, Japan, South Africa, Switzerland, Turkey, and the United States.
Source: "When private shares meet public interest", Jannie Rossouw; Adèle Breytenbach, Central Banking 22, no. 2 (Nov 2011): 85-87. Paywall protected URLs: (1) centralbanking.com (2) proquest.com
Related free working paper: "Private Shareholding and Public Interest: An Analysis of an Eclectic Group of Central Banks", Jannie Rossouw, Economic Research Southern Africa, 2014, ERSA working paper 457 at econrsa.org (PDF)
There's no evidence that the Rothschilds own or control any central banks.
n/a AIsuicide 2017-04-30
Ahhh, how's that socialism in Germany going?
n/a AIsuicide 2017-04-30
Hahahaha..knew it. Downvote away.
n/a 14_16_22_BlisterBlue 2017-04-30
I've never been to Germany...
n/a xocit 2017-04-30
???
n/a 14_16_22_BlisterBlue 2017-04-30
https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4311
https://skeptoid.com/blog/2014/04/07/busting-some-rothschild-family-facebook-memes/
n/a ObserverOfTruth 2017-04-30
The powerful are against us.
n/a SixVISix 2017-04-30
The truth behind how many times we (me writing this and you reading it) have been here, doing this.
n/a rabbits_dig_deep 2017-04-30
You mean reincarnation?
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-30
http://biblehub.com/genesis/3-5.htm
http://biblehub.com/genesis/3-22.htm
http://biblehub.com/genesis/11-6.htm
http://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/23-20.htm
http://biblehub.com/luke/24-45.htm
http://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-12.htm
http://biblehub.com/ephesians/5-11.htm
http://biblehub.com/revelation/1-3.htm
http://biblehub.com/revelation/2-9.htm
http://biblehub.com/revelation/3-9.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTCS6aWRSc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzUrHvSOmEI
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
You know that religion is fake, right?
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-30
is the bible fake?
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
No, the bible is a real book, just like harry potter is a real book, but religion is absolutely fake, and it very easily proven.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-30
is religion a real word?
what are the root words of religion?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religio
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
By purposefully dodging my question, you proved my point. Religion is absolutely fake, and there is absolutely no disputing it.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-30
some people believe that they evolved from lower species
some people believe in God
lower species do not believe in God
the atheists paradox?
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
evolution has been proven, creation is an empty hypothesis based in fiction.
k
wat
what?
what the fuck are even saying?
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-30
please prove that you, personally have "evolved" in any way shape or form
science is about replication, not regurgitation
re Big Bang Theory: please describe how you personally observed and measured the so-called "red shift" of light in the expanding universe
. #ScienceNotTripe
Monkeys do not believe in God either, because they haven't evolved and developed the mental capacity yet.... so where does that put you as far as how "evolved" you are personally? just below someone who can comprehend "God"
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
http://evolutionfaq.com/articles/five-proofs-evolution
science os about truth you ignorant fuck.
http://gizmodo.com/astronomers-discover-first-direct-proof-of-the-big-bang-1545525927
you are very, very stupid. Religion was an invention of the elite to keep the people in line. Some people are so fucking stupid that they still believe in it today, people like you, and your family. It's sad, and its fucking pathetic to know that people as stupid as you exist freely, and you breed. Please so us all a favor and remove yourself from the gene pool by any means necessary.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-30
the truth is, you can't prove that you have personally evolved.
you can't even prove anyone in your family has evolved
i didn't ask for regurgitation of someone else's science experiments, I'm asking why you don't follow the scientific method and replicate the experiments you assume support your opinions.
yes, i am very stupid. i am aware of this fact.
you are also very stupid, but are not aware of this fact.
which one of us has the advantage, mr einstein?
i like your last paragraph, it lets me know I'm living inside your head rent-free
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
How the fuck are you this stupid? I showed you hard eveidence that evolution is true. Why dont you show me hard evidence of creation?
No, i will talk about scientific discoveries, you worthless sack of shit. How many scientific studies have you accomplished in order to prove creation? Oh wait that;s right, you're not smart enough to understand basic science, to the point that you read a fictional, 1000 year old book as truth.
You call me stupid because of how worthless you are as a person, and you can't understand basic science. I call you stupid out of pure, unbiased observation.
"hahaha im so fucking stupid that this guy on the internet can't believe how stupid me and my family is, hahaha clearly im the better man"
My word.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-04-30
you spelled eveidence wrong!
the creature doubts the existence of his creator? this is rich.
when you say scientific discoveries, you mean like the peer reviewed work that Dr Wakefield did?
its not my responsibility to prove creation. I'm only here to mock your silly pseudoscience beliefs.
if you actually understood science, would you believe that men walked on the moon?
you realize that memorizing some trivia long enough to pass a multiple choice test doesn't actually make you a scientist right?
the old testament is much older than 1,000 years.
im an atheist, and a master poe.
and you are just an idiot, being trolled...
dont worry my good sir, Jesus loves you even if you have daddy issues.
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
No sense, no evidence.
You have shown me nothing.
Worthless and ignorant. All these millions of years of evolution, and we get worthless, ignorant people like you. you have still given me nothing.
What the fuck?
seriously what the fuck?
So you act stupid, get called stupid, and then, the big twist ending is that you are such a lonely, worthless, unlovable faggot that you act like shit on purpose?
enjoy that fantastic life of yours.
n/a CelineHagbard 2017-04-30
Removed. Rule 1.
n/a I_HAVE_POON_WORMZ 2017-04-30
Money is paper & its truly worthless. It's only worth something because we've been brainwashed to believe it is. There's also more of us than them. We should be burning this fucker down ourselves.
n/a xocit 2017-04-30
Money is "worthless" yet is able to acquire goods and services, uh?...
If you believe such pointless "memes" may you upload a video of all your savings placed together where you burn all of it? No...? Again, you're repeating irrelevant slogans, they're platitudes.
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
Right. Money is fiat, meaning it is worthless, and it's value is enforced by government edict. A society that allocates resources appropriately has no use for money, and money itself is what oppresses us.
n/a xocit 2017-04-30
Its contradictory merely to claim "money is worthless" yet its "value is enforced by government edict." If money holds no "value" as you claim, then how is the "value" of money to be enforced by law? You are accepting two opposing ideas and believing both to be true.
So you believe in a "moneyless" society even though no such society ever existed in the recorded history that did not use a form of money for the exchanging of someone's labor and production as represented in any "medium" or unit of account.
Its too simplistic to state as such, ask yourself why you believe this to be the case when all money does is account and is exchanged for goods and services. How is persons agreeing upon trade between each other oppressive?
Is it merely the medium that measures the value of exchange; or is it a manipulation of the nature of money itself that makes "money" oppressive? (For example, if someone requested you to paint a room which would take 3 hours, how is agreeing upon a price that accounted for your time and labor, harmful to you, to be paid for in money?)
You should think this through more FuckenUnCuckeD, do you really believe any exchange is harmful or is it the manipulated effects of money that makes it the exploitative medium?
Some quotes that I had saved while reading through some old books, it may help to summarize.
“The sole use of currency is to facilitate the great process of exchange, by superseding the necessity for barter. Nor has it any other use than what is either directly or indirectly incidental to this purpose. For were it the case in any country, that no one therein had ever occasion to exchange any property or privilege which he possessed, or any service that he could render, for something which another possessed or could render in return; or, that only such exchanges were desired as barter could readily accomplish; then, in such country, currency would manifestly be of no use, nor indeed would it have any existence.” – Edwin Hill (1856, Principles of Currency: Means of Ensuring Uniformity of Value and Adequacy of Supply, page 55)
“The money of a country is that thing, whatever it may be, which is commonly accepted in exchange for labor or property and in payment of debts, whether so accepted by force of law, or by universal consent. Its value does not arise from the intrinsic qualities which the material of which it is made may possess, but depends entirely on the extrinsic qualities which law, or general consent, may confer.” — John P. Jones (1890, Speech of Hon. John P. Jones, of Nevada. May 12 And 13, p. 65)
“The logic of the situation, and the reasoning of all the leading authorities on money, lead irresistibly to the conclusion that its value does not reside in the material, but in the stamp; in other words, on the legal-tender function impressed on that material. It is an order for property and services.” — John P. Jones (1890, Speech of Hon. John P. Jones, of Nevada. May 12 And 13, p. 65)
“The true money standard of any country is not the material of which the money is made. The standard is not a concrete object, but a numerical relation. It is the relation between the number of units composing the monetary circulation of the country and the numbers of the population. It is the legal-tender function that constitutes money. It is the power which the law imparts to any material to pay debts and liquidate obligations. It can not for a moment be doubted that the money function, being conferred by the supreme authority, is the all-sufficient guarantee of the money value. There is no necessity for re-enforcing that value with any inferior value that may attach to the material on which the money stamp is placed. The money function is immeasurably the most important that can be conferred by society upon any material, and it is absurd to urge that that function is not of itself sufficient for the maintenance of the value of money. All the value that money can possibly have the totality of value that can exist in the shape of money in any country will attach to anything upon which the sovereign authority stamps it, whether the material on which the stamp is placed be gold, silver, paper, or anything else.” — John P. Jones (1890, Speech of Hon. John P. Jones, of Nevada. May 12 And 13, p. 78-79)
“Two persons having an equal amount of money or an equal quantity of goods, wares and merchandise, cannot both make money out of each other. What one gains the other loses. This rule is true of any number of persons, may, it is applicable to all of the individuals of a nation. It is only when there is an increase of the original capital that there is a legitimate object of commercial pursuit. It is the same when the amounts of original capital are dissimilar, the proportions must be maintained or there is trickery or injustice, not to say robbery.” – Charles H. Robinson (1898, The Destruction of Poverty, p. 127)
“A token issued by one is received by all and their products are transferred in consequence thereof. The circulation of the token rests upon this proposition: That the holder has in the token, an order on each and all of his neighbors for their surplus products. By common consent they pass from one to another, and thus facilitate the easy transmutation of one man’s labor into something else desired by him. But is this not the exact purpose of all trade, local, national, universal? Can Commerce find any other design for her varied million daily exchanges, except that one set of men prefer, above their own, the manual creations of their neighbors? The final analysis of the motives for all trading leads to this simple fact, that each finds his advantage in the transfer of his surplus product.” — Taylor Rogers (1897, Scientific Money, p. 13)
“Money is like railroads, a mere implement of exchange. Scientifically it ought not to be a commodity. As it is a mere medium to effect exchanges, its volume should be regulated with reference to the value of products in course of each exchange. This could never be done by taking a commodity of extremely limited volume in nature, like gold or silver, and stamping it as money.” — Hon. Thomas V. Cator, of San Francisco (Quoted in Taylor Rogers “Scientific Money” 1897, p. 83)
Its far to simplistic to state such, ask yourself why you believe this to be the case when all that money does is an accounting system in the exchange of someone's labor and production. You can study the history of money throughout any period and people have always used a "medium" represented in any material that accounted for the exchanging of goods and services. Again, a "moneyless" society has never existed that did not tokenize the work of others.
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
Because the government has power, everyone else adheres to this edict. Money is worthless, but you will not get any resources without it, because everybody is forced to participate or perish.
Yes
No, it's really not, once you understand that capital = money, and capital ism means money ism . Let me ask you this: In as few words as possible, what is the purpose of capitalism? Why do we have it?
This is a nonsensical question, and I did not say that exchange is harmful.
Dude no fucking shit
n/a xocit 2017-04-30
How can money process no value and be worthless, yet is redeemable for goods and services; and acquired by labor and production of the populace. If you believe money has no value, why do you process to acquire it, and work as such? Its easy to blame the negative effects of money upon "money" when a mere exchange causes no injury, do you blame the object which kills a person, or the influence that held malice intent to kill, its the same illogical reasoning.
Capitalism and Socialism are both means for unjust exploitation; an unjust system of exchange in commerce that is based upon Free Enterprise causes no injury.
Why would you advocate for a "moneyless" society then should you not see trade and commerce as bad? If money only represents labor earned and received from the overall pool of wealth in a society, why seek a "moneyless" society? It sounds contradictory.
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
Are you stupid? I already answered that. Government has power, government enforces edict, forces everyone to participate, to the point where we are powerless to the economic system of moneyism.
Because I was born into it, and I don't have a choice, and neither do you.
If someone gets shot, I blame the shooter. Honestly, your arguments are pretty pathetic. You're really not grasping this very simple concept.
Oops, you used to word socialism, now you have to provide me with a definition because you probably have no idea what it means, other than what you read in a Glen Beck book. I will not continue this discussion until you define socialism accurately.
because the idea of money is counterproductive to human survival, and it not at all necessary for allocating resources.
Damn dude. You're not too bright.
n/a xocit 2017-04-30
Sure, but this does not make money itself bad though; or as you say is "oppressing us."
What is a "Government" but mere that governance established by the sect or tribe of people of the community which elects their representatives. How you detest money for all these negative ills seems like how you're likely to obfuscate this mere primitive formation of a state of governance in the same manner; rather than the influences of money upon both exploitative concepts.
This is a victim-mentality though, the people of the society choose and volunteer with each of their consents and influences; the above quote summarizes well.
Capitalism and Socialism both seek to exploit the subject people,
"Capitalism" seeks unearned gains through such a monetary system that claims to be providing us a service, in pretending to loan us money and charging interest upon deceptions when nothing is risked by the banks other than the mere cost of publishing the banknotes. In return the banks dis-posses all ever acquired and produced merely by claiming to be lending us our own money that we monetize ourselves.
Socialism, is likewise the unearned exploitation of the producer that is forced to pay for taxes which is earned, provided to those who are able too, but does not to acquire the income from others. Both are parasitic existences, although side-effects of the monetary system. Yet, "money" itself is of no injury when uncorrupted.
Political ideologies are more reactionary states of mind caused through the financial system, than anything else and for each period of time and history.
Do you see money as barter? Money supersedes barter, allowing the exchange of goods and services in a uniform trade, (ie. I want something you have, yet you don't want anything I have to trade) its nothing more which allocates the exchanging of time, labor, production and "resources" acquired if you will.
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
Yes is does. The use of money has a whole has no real value, and it is not necessary for allocating resources. You are not answering any of my questions, you are only repeating yourself.
I did not choose to have a government, and the only people capable of running for office have to have millions of dollars just for people to know what their name is. What if I don't want a leader? What if I don't want to live in this system? What if I, many other people, afree that we want to live in a different, less oppressive system? Too bad, because are forced to use this system, and so are you.
Dude, holy fuck... come on, you need to know something useful. There would indeed be no "anarchy in the United states" because in anarchism, there would be no countries, because countries aren't real in the first place. What I mean by this, is that the idea of a country, is nothing more than an imaginary line- that's it. The fences are real, the people are real, the M4's are real, but the line itself is imaginary. Like money, countries serve no real purpose rather than to serve it's leaders, and protect itself from other countries. In anarchism, there would be neither.
What in the ever loving fuck are you talking about? This makes absolutely 0 sense. Capitalism is when the means of production, goods of production, instruments of labor, and means of labor are all privately owned, and exist solely for the purpose of producing capital, in order to receive resources from other owners of these resources.
For example, take the healthcare industry. What is the purpose of the healthcare industry? To heal people? Fuck no- it's to make money. Sure, a cure for cancer would make millions of dollars, as would a cure for HIV; nay cure for any disease could be sold for a lot of money, but after a while, you will start to see a decline in sick people. Less people are coming to you or healthcare. You are in effect, losing customers . The healthcare industry is not trying to come up for cures for diseases, they are instead researching profitable treatments. Why? Because curing a disease is bad for business . If their job was to heal people, their industry would shrink, and they want the opposite. Apply this formula to everything that exists to understand capitalism better.
Again, this makes absolutely no sense. not because it's wrong, but because I think that you honestly have not quite mastered the concept of writing a complete sentence.
Socialism is when the workers own and control the means of production, as well as the instruments of production and labor, and use them in order to create a system of resource allocation controlled by the workers directly. They wouldn't own it because of socialism- they own it because they are the ones fucking making it. The concept of ownership, is something else that does not quite meet the standards of existence.
I can't tell if your a smug 9 year old or a smug and very stupid 40 year old.
This is in agreement with my argument, not yours you fucking idiot. This is saying that the economic system does not give a fuck about human needs, and if you don't have the capital for fucking shelter they grab you and your family by the throats and knock you out on your asses and leave you for dead.
No, it's the same fucking thing. Money is just a placeholder for resources.
If your next comment is as stupid and incoherent as this one, I'm not going to respond. Damn dude. Just damn.
n/a xocit 2017-04-30
Its ridiculous to keep claiming that money represents nothing of value, you've not attempted to explain why, merely keep repeating this claim; nor have you provided us with a logical reason why or how a "moneyless" society can be beneficial to a populace.
Take for example the homeless, are they not living your "moneyless" society ideals? Or the poor countries without much money, they're in fact clear test-cases of all that you seek. How is this looking for them, uh? Why not move in with the homeless...
Sure, all influenced by the monetary system that has subverted each and every nation. You're already volunteering to be governed by such in processing the status of citizenship; therefore you're subjected to the laws of such jurisdictions. You can move and change your domicile along with those like you. What's stopping you all? Its easy to hold a victim-mentality. It explains why you oppose the usage of money.
So now you're claiming money is a fiction, and not real? If you remove the idea of the State, even in your own home there is a governance, claiming everything is a fiction and imaginary etc., soon becomes tiring. Do you use your birth name, uh? Yet, you do recognise this "legal fiction..."
As for the healthcare industry, no one is forcing you to be treated by a doctor. Its easy to conflate "Capitalism" and "Free Enterprise" to then detest money, rather than its subverted nature. The same with Governments, however big or small. You can research the move from sect-tribe, to village, to towns and holds and countries, States and nations and they always are influenced by the growth of commerce. It actually explains and reflects why you detest money and no rules of society.
Sure, although this is all influenced by the monetary system that causes such dis-possessions upon society, not in the functions of money itself.
Well then, money represents property and that property or as you like to subscribe "resources" processes value, your "placeholder" yet to keep claiming money as no value is to claim that "resource" services nothing of value to be acquired.
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
Everything you just claimed, I have already debunked in my previous rebutals. This response that you just typed out is a clear indication of how ignorant and stupid you are. Ignorance means that you lack knowledge, but stupidity means that you lack the mental capacity to gain knowledge, or use logic and reason to change your beliefs with the introduction of new information. You are pathetic, and you should be embarrassed.
Good talk dude....
n/a xocit 2017-04-30
Show and prove; you have nothing to provide us with other than childish name-calling.
Why don't you present 1 mere test-case in history where the people lived under a "moneyless" society, not using any form of exchange and where this was beneficial to the population, surely it cannot be that hard, uh? ROFL...
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
Because it has never happened before you fucking dipshit. We didn't have the technology to create a global system of resource allocation that would make money obsolete until 30, maybe 40 years ago. You're so fucking stupid, all I can do is laugh.
Keep going kid, you're batting 1000!
n/a xocit 2017-04-30
Well then, a "moneyless" society is not a law of nature. This sole fact that you are still waiting on the available technology shows such appeals are unnatural.
No one is going to produce something for free and allow a non-productive person to come and acquire whatever was made, whether an house or a meal etc. whatever. The state of degeneracy is shown by a test-case in Africa of a "moneyless" region where the locals use the open beaches as toilets.
Its a mindless endeavor and goes against the natural conditions of acceptances between parties in acquiring eachother's work traded in money has represented in any form of material. If you did not seek to exploit another, you wouldn't have an issue with solving the monetary system away from the dispossession by banks and interest. "money" when not corrupted is merely an accounting system nothing more.
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
omg here we go.
right, it's totally possible for us to not be smart enough to ever achieve it, you have made that quite clear.
The phrase "for free" only exists in a world where everything costs money. There would be no such thing as "free stuff" because everyone would have equal access to resources.
We already do that, and the vast majority of our jobs are completely obsolete and only exist in a world of capitalism. If we lived in a money-less society, automation would be a good thing, instead of here where it takes away jobs. As advanced as our technology is, it is only advanced in the ways of capitalism. Everything has planned obsolescence. We also don't know two things: 1. We don't know what our current understanding of the sciences is even capable of, we have only seen it try to exist under capitalism. 2. We don't know what kind of new technology the elite (government, military, billionaires) possess and hide from the world.
Dude you are impossibly stupid. In no way, shape, or form does Africa and India resemble anything close to what I'm talking about. They do not live in a moneyless society, and the people who live in shit, and don't use money at all STILL LIVE IN CAPITALISM, THEY JUST HAVE NO CAPITAL. THEY LIVE IN SHIT BECAUSE OF POVERTY.
This makes NO GRAMMATICAL SENSE WHAT SO EVER .
You are so fucking stupid, and I really don't mean that as an insult; I mean it as an objective observation. You are completely incapable of understanding something that you are not familiar with. Enjoy your cognitive dissonance.
n/a I_HAVE_POON_WORMZ 2017-04-30
Money is paper & its truly worthless. It's only worth something because we've been brainwashed to believe it is. There's also more of us than them. We should be burning this fucker down ourselves.
n/a OB1_kenobi 2017-04-30
I'd like an absolutely unbiased and accurate version of all human history. Who did what and why they did it.
Having a history like this would lay bare every dirty trick, every false flag and every lie ever told.
n/a well_hello_there_4_4 2017-04-30
That's a cheat answer. Everyone knows you can't just wish for more wishes. It undermines the purpose of the exercise.
n/a OB1_kenobi 2017-04-30
Title says one basic truth... so I picked true, un-suppressed history.
n/a well_hello_there_4_4 2017-04-30
Thanks for trying anyway bud ;-)
n/a g3374r2d2 2017-04-30
Rules? Enforcement of criteria in an imaginative exercise designed simply for stimulating interesting conversation?
Now don't you feel like a douche because you're the only one that cares enough to nit pick somebody's creative response.
Surely you can catch yourself before saying such asinine things online and lending to the reasons people don't speak up anymore.
n/a BernieWoulda1 2017-04-30
The fact that wealthy and powerful people are involved in child trafficking and child abuse. Our entire political and judicial system is compromised through sexual blackmail. True in the US, in the UK, in Belgium...
n/a loserofpasswordzz 2017-04-30
Russia hacked the DNC
n/a MichelleObamasPenis 2017-04-30
really, so Julian Assange saying that the Russian claims are shit is part of the conspiracy, the FBI refusing to touch the claims, while the fake news MSM that agrees with you are the truth tellers.
That's pretty deep.
n/a Khemical_Khaos 2017-04-30
It's common knowledge that Russia hacked the dnc. But that's all they did. They got all of the data about the illegal activities people like podesta and Clinton were doing and released it through wikileaks. They did this in order to manipulate the American publics mindset hoping that the election would be swayed. Nothing untoward. Just some stolen emails.
And when I say hacked, I mean a simple spearphishing scam. That's all.
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
Turn off the TV
n/a MichelleObamasPenis 2017-04-30
Your "common knowledge" has no relationship to "what actually happened outside the fake news MSM". Wikileaks categorically said that the Russians were not involved, and the person who gave the data to wikileaks also said that the Russians had nothing to do with it.
This is pure, 100% propaganda speaking. You want to know what propaganda is? Just look at yourself.
Look:
and
The reasoning, the emotional affect so loved by media manipulators, is completely made up but MSM fake news, and you've been completely fooled. Fuck, you're not meant to repeat it! , just believe it. Anyone who claims to know the emotional reasoning behind such actions is an obvious fool. Who told you the reasoning of whoever leaked those emails? This is obvious propaganda.
n/a loserofpasswordzz 2017-04-30
Just being sarcastic lol I'll learn from the downvotes
n/a arlaman 2017-04-30
That you are just as powerful as the elite. They know this and it is this reason that they have systems of control in place.
n/a _marcus_corvinus 2017-04-30
wouldn't you want to know...
n/a dokapon111 2017-04-30
All of the poisons they regularly use on us, what they do, and why they do it. Hint, it's mostly about money.
n/a Seventh_greyman 2017-04-30
The Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan.
n/a Thy_Weapon_Of_War 2017-04-30
This is huge. It is a giant red flag proving the agenda of the Rothschild/jewish/NWO elites to attempt to destroy the white/European peoples via mass immigration of non-whites.
n/a joe_jaywalker 2017-04-30
I've never really heard that before, do you have a summary or something you can direct to?
n/a Thy_Weapon_Of_War 2017-04-30
Sure. See here:
https://youtu.be/wRZhD8S6o5s
https://redgreenalliance.com/2016/04/06/the-coudenhove-kalergi-plan-white-genocide-via-mass-immigration/amp/
n/a LeBlight 2017-04-30
I would like to know more about this as well. I read the wiki for it and just shrugged my shoulders.
n/a Seventh_greyman 2017-04-30
This is a blog showing a translation of an Italian (I think) article:
https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2015/09/03/the-coudenhove-kalergi-plan-the-key-to-understand-the-mass-immigration-crisis-in-europe/
n/a LeBlight 2017-04-30
Whoa. Thank you.
n/a Seventh_greyman 2017-04-30
You're welcome.
It blew my mind when I read it the first time. All those times where people said "there's no plan to get rid of white people" are rebutted with there literally being a plan for it.
Not only that, but Merkel got the Coudenhove-Kalergi award for her European efforts.
Which makes you realise that she's only failing at her job, if you think she's trying to save Germany.
n/a yourepenis 2017-04-30
That our current understanding of ww2 and the holocaust has been purposefully manipulated and falsified in order to demonize nationalism and promote their goal of a NWO as well as giving jews a "get out of jail free" card so to speak because everyones afraid of being labeled an anti-semite just for asking a question.
Side note: I am not denying that the holocaust happened to some extent, I just dont think what weve been told is the truth about it
n/a Thy_Weapon_Of_War 2017-04-30
You are right. This issue is SO HUGE. They Holyhoax lie provides the ideological foundation for the jewish/NWO agenda of seeking to destroy all white nations with mass immigration -- i.e., by saying that any whites/Europeans who oppose mass immigration are "racist Nazis" etc.
Red Cross records show that around 280,000 people died in the German-run camps, and probably less than half of those were jews. The deaths were overwhelmingly caused by typhus and other diseases, which resulted because of the general breakdown in conditions inside Germany and Poland due to the war. There was no plan to mass murder the inmates at the camps.
The sacred "6 million" number is a Kaballistic figure that was claimed dozens of times by the jews in the decades before WW2. The German WW2 camps were only internment and slave labor camps to intern perceived threats in a war-time environment -- similar to camps run by the U.S. government in which they interned Americans of Japanese and German ancestry on U.S. soil during the war.
n/a ekaj_ekaj 2017-04-30
Lmao so when do I as an upper middle class Jew get my membership card to the ruling elite?
You really believe the shit you typed, don't you?
n/a yourepenis 2017-04-30
You dont because they don't give a fuck about you like they dont give a fuck about me. Idk why everyone always immediately reacts like people are saying every single jewish person on the planet is involved in the conspiracy. Its the elite like the koch brothers and the rothschilds and other old jewish money families that are the problem. They use the front of the jewish religion to push their agendas. Not that i think christianity or islam is any better, they all do the same shit, it just so happens jewish money is the oldest because they were the only religion that allowed usury during the conception of banks in human history.
n/a logicmasterrace 2017-04-30
Capitalism is the economic equivalent of feudalism.
n/a ring-ring-ring 2017-04-30
The white race is being killed off by the elite class that runs and controls Western civilization. All anyone needs to do is look, and they will see this happening all around them. A few points to ponder:
n/a Remo_Lizardo 2017-04-30
I think you need to take a long ponder in the mirror.
n/a Thy_Weapon_Of_War 2017-04-30
And here's another "secret" as to WHY the jewish/NWO elites are trying to do this. The white/European peoples (especially the Anglo-Saxon and Germanic peoples) are the REAL descendants of the Israelites. This is a Satanic plan to attempt to destroy the true chosen people.
Also, of course, the white/European peoples and nations are the most powerful in the world and are the biggest opposition and obstacle to the jewish/NWO elites and their plan for a totalitarian Satanic one-world government.
n/a chickenshitmchammers 2017-04-30
I totally get where you're coming from, but a lot of those ain't just white problems.
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
why? what the motive behind this?
n/a yourepenis 2017-04-30
Well you put together a list of a lot of problens but very few if any of them are strictly white problems, and some of them affect white people much less than they do other races like the sterilization and forced abortions on blacks all throughout america. Also i have no idea wtf youre talking about, in school my history book was practically "americas the fuckin greatest man, guns, liberty and manifest Destiny am i right guys"
n/a lod254 2017-04-30
"God"
Rothschilds a close second.
n/a fatcyst2020 2017-04-30
There is no close second to God.
Rothschilds can die. God is forever.
n/a MIConvervative 2017-04-30
History of who created the pyramids.
n/a WickedFierce1 2017-04-30
Aliens.
n/a g3374r2d2 2017-04-30
I think this is the most important to know because many claim it is their last "enemy" care that they will use on us to gain final control. It seems like it's coming now too.
n/a RAGEagnst_Machine 2017-04-30
Government officials, accept bribes to enforce laws, that are not in the publics best interest. Your tax money is used to kill innocent people
n/a Thy_Weapon_Of_War 2017-04-30
That the NWO agenda is ultimately Satanic, and that right now it is being run by ethnic jews, and that the jews are NOT Israelites (but are rather literal children of Satan, see John 8:44), and that the religion of Judaism is not the Old Testament religion of the Israelites but is actually Satanism (see Matthew 23:15, Revelation 2:9).
n/a Everything_Is_Awful 2017-04-30
The answer to the JQ.
n/a The_Veracity_Sector 2017-04-30
Israel and Saudi Arabia were behind 9/11.
n/a PlayStationVRShill 2017-04-30
Religion.
n/a joe_jaywalker 2017-04-30
A lot of topics in here are definitely more important or potentially world-changing, but not a day goes by when I wonder when the moon hoax is going to expire and what will happen when it does.
n/a crosseyed_rednik 2017-04-30
http://www.wanttoknow.info/truthvideos
n/a DmitriVanderbilt 2017-04-30
The true, lost history of mankind, and the cataclysms that destroyed ancient civilizations.
n/a mayonnnnaise 2017-04-30
That the fractional reserve system creates an unpayable debt upon which the entire system is falsely predicated. Scarcity is real; the holders of the reins lack a just claim.
n/a future_madness 2017-04-30
We Live in an illusion. A holograph. One designed to enslave us and keep us blind to our many shackles. It's a spiritual war for our very minds and souls where we've all been programmed to be soulless automatons. Their is way more going on here than we can understand.
n/a g3374r2d2 2017-04-30
We can understand anything that isn't purposely hidden from us.
n/a thealiensarejealous 2017-04-30
There's really just one conspiracy. It's the enslavement of the human race and the forced conditioning that is self perpetuated from parent to child. This is what it is... They are using mental manipulation combined with time to force our race to adapt and evolve to their mold (whoever they are is besides the point). They have successfully removed a large portion of our humanity and compassion towards our own race and are continuing to do so at this very moment. They are also conditioning our bodies through means of chemical interference in the air we breath, the water we drink and the food we consume. This is removing our ability to critically think and is also poisoning us so that we never reach our full potential. Any conspiracy we discuss ties into this. It's all connected to us and the potential that we once had (and still do, really). I personally think we're on the verge of a comeback though.
It's time to be human again.
n/a g3374r2d2 2017-04-30
Ding ding. Archons suck
n/a fatcyst2020 2017-04-30
I want people to know that religion is the original conspiracy.
Why? Because religion is the original conspiracy that blends cultural expressions with mysticism and authoritarianism. Early religion "started" as a way to explain things that were not understood but quickly became a way to keep the masses in line. Opiate for the masses, indeed.
Even today, even among conspiracy theorists, you still have the vast majority who believe the same bullshit lies that constructed the power structures they rail against.
n/a tzitzit 2017-04-30
Posts like this look like an info collection scheme for the shills.
What else would the purpose be?
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
Curiosity. I value other people opinions, and I also learn new things everyday here, and theres always a concrete source to back it up. Not collecting info on anyone, just some guy who wants to hear from you. I understand your cancern though. There are millions of shills out there, and it's no secret.
n/a bryanhoule 2017-04-30
I would choose the earth is not a globe. TPTB are lying to you about everything, including who you are and where you live!!!!
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
Then what is it? Why lie about it?
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
um... source? and motive?
n/a Prgjdsaewweoidsm 2017-04-30
We can have 0% taxes with no cuts to government services:
https://www.reddit.com/r/C_S_T/comments/5uab89/premise_an_orbital_ring_space_elevator_can_be/
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n/a Chokaholic 2017-04-30
The truth about Jesus Christ and how he reached enlightenment outside of the mystery schools.
n/a Z-to-the-A 2017-04-30
You are all stuck on 2D conspiracies.. still eyeing governments and Rothschilds lol.
Get on my level and start looking into astrology correlations with current events, and study chakras, numerology, dip your toe back into r/conspiracy time to time to see what page everyone else is on still, and realize that everything that Tila Tequila talks about in her latest YouTube videos is real. Despite how fucking crazy she sounds, please pay attention to all her videos. Don't be closed minded, put the pieces together. If you want to know the truth you won't be a hater and you will head my advice.
Omg I know how crazy I sound right now but everyone on here is seeking the truth and I am trying really hard to make sure this information gets out there (even though I know there will be haters)
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
Every single event will correlate with some astrological sign, correlation ≠ causation
fake
Super fake
irrelevant porn star is irrelevant
Fair enough, link me and I will watch them.
You do, but if you link me what you want me to watch, I will watch these videos without forming any opinions before hand, and I will let you know what I think. You do sound crazy, but I will definitely give this a chance. Who knows, maybe you're onto something.
n/a Z-to-the-A 2017-04-30
Such a hater. You don't understand how numerology or astrology even works. At all. You don't even know what a birth chart is.
You can't call something fake without doing the diligence to find out what it is and how it works, and then decide if it's real or fake.
Great investigation skills. A+ , I hope you find the truth you're seeking down the rabbit hole with THAT mentality.
Good luck, you'll need it.
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
I prefer the term "person who has a realistic view of the world"
I did, and it's fake. Astrology is fake, chakras aren't real, and numerology is fake as well. the burden of proof is on YOU to prove that they are real.
Dude you didn't post any videos. I'm giving you a fair chance, please post what you want me to see and I will give it a fair chance.
n/a Z-to-the-A 2017-04-30
Really that's kind of embarrassing to have that kind of mentality when you're on a conspiracy/truth seeking forum.
It's closed minded and radiates ignorance. why don't you actually look up the things mentioned, and understand how it works before you dismiss it.
I didn't want to end up on r/conspiracy, I got here when pizzagate broke back in November and I've been falling down the rabbit hole ever since. And I thought flat earth was a psy ops, and that Tila was MK ultra'd and a psy ops too, bitch sounds crazy- but she is right.
Just pay attention. You're not going to get very far in finding the truth if you shut down ideas you disagree with or don't understand/ find ridiculous. That's exactly what I did, and guess what. Here I am, trying to talk to a hater.
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
...what?
n/a g3374r2d2 2017-04-30
Rules? Enforcement of criteria in an imaginative exercise designed simply for stimulating interesting conversation?
Now don't you feel like a douche because you're the only one that cares enough to nit pick somebody's creative response.
Surely you can catch yourself before saying such asinine things online and lending to the reasons people don't speak up anymore.
n/a FuckenUnCuckeD 2017-04-30
omg here we go.
right, it's totally possible for us to not be smart enough to ever achieve it, you have made that quite clear.
The phrase "for free" only exists in a world where everything costs money. There would be no such thing as "free stuff" because everyone would have equal access to resources.
We already do that, and the vast majority of our jobs are completely obsolete and only exist in a world of capitalism. If we lived in a money-less society, automation would be a good thing, instead of here where it takes away jobs. As advanced as our technology is, it is only advanced in the ways of capitalism. Everything has planned obsolescence. We also don't know two things: 1. We don't know what our current understanding of the sciences is even capable of, we have only seen it try to exist under capitalism. 2. We don't know what kind of new technology the elite (government, military, billionaires) possess and hide from the world.
Dude you are impossibly stupid. In no way, shape, or form does Africa and India resemble anything close to what I'm talking about. They do not live in a moneyless society, and the people who live in shit, and don't use money at all STILL LIVE IN CAPITALISM, THEY JUST HAVE NO CAPITAL. THEY LIVE IN SHIT BECAUSE OF POVERTY.
This makes NO GRAMMATICAL SENSE WHAT SO EVER .
You are so fucking stupid, and I really don't mean that as an insult; I mean it as an objective observation. You are completely incapable of understanding something that you are not familiar with. Enjoy your cognitive dissonance.