The question is, who has what to gain from all this?

That they could shut down a major freeway and allow nobody to leave or enter the city.

Maybe trump will build a wall around the city.

Now that I think about it, they are walling off the city and creating funnels along the major interstates as your leaving the city.

They call them sound barriers.

If there was any criminal neglect of public infrastructure, any public officials and corporations involved would gain a lot from blaming citizens of their failures.

Regarding the ATL question, I immediately thought it was suspicious. In Knoxville (about a year ago), an old business property that had lost a lot of value suddenly 'caught fire' which lasted for several days, due to bums but it's pretty clear the business owners had a major payoff coming on otherwise useless property.

Regarding the politics of the area, ATL is becoming 'hot'. Killer Mike (and others) are really turning it up, for Southern politics. There is a fair line of strong, I would wager Extreme, Anti-Establishment sentiment going from Knoxville, to Chattanooga, to Atlanta. However, these are major government run cities. Knoxville has a Nuclear Plant + major university, Chattanooga has the NSA headquarters, and ATL is ATL.

In either case, I think they are going to need to start beating up some more black people in Atlanta to prevent any organized political movements from starting up, and crippling the infrastructure will fundamentally cause people to have less free time and ability to move about the city.

That's just a guess, but I have a feeling it's more about prevent people from being about to organize than it is about street construction, but perhaps that all it will amount to.

Two birds one stone.

Chattanooga has the NSA headquarters

Can you elaborate on this?

Sorry, one of them. Not 'the one'.

There are like 20 NSA bases in the US, but the Chattanooga one is not very public it seems. You can find it referenced in the Wikileaks or some shit. I've seen it confirmed a few times.

However, generally speaking, if you want to know where NSA bases are located, try to find locations in which they have Fiber internet. Chattanooga go fiber internet which started around 2008, which is likely when the NSA bases was established.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/20/technology/innovation/chattanooga-internet/

If you are curious, the Governor of TN , Bill Haslam, has forbidden any more cities from getting Fiber unless it's sponsored by Comcast (though I think Morristown has it as well).

The Chattanooga project is a bit suspicious in how effortlessly it occurred, and I think it paid for itself in like 3 years, so why wouldn't everyone do it?... Or did Chattanooga get a special pass? Hum.

But regarding the identification of the NSA base in Chattanooga, I can't find it at this time, though I've read in a few different publications.

I grantee there was neglect of public infrastructure but there are no laws saying that you have to maintain what you build.

Yes there are laws and Congress needs to approve the funds. There's nothing that I know of that requires a certain amount of money to be spent on maintenance of the infrastructure.

There are Federal laws that require maintenance of dams, like the Dam Safety Act of 2006. There are probably some for highways as well.

Imagine if people looked into the funds that were allocated for infrastructure and found that 20%+ didn't go where it was supposed to, whether it be fraud or not. People want to cover that up, so blaming these things on accidents will prevent people from saying "What are you using our tax dollars for?"

Bingo

Part of the problem is that the federal government provides 70% of the funding for new highway construction but little to none for maintenance. Maintaining the infrastructure usually falls to the state and local governments.

Infrastructure money funneled into the stadium kitty? You don't say.

isn't it obvious? the metahumans are on the rise.

this is a sign of change.

the end times have begun.

whispers unite the seven

Okay

Road builders. "No-bid" contracts with construction companies owned by relatives/associates of highway commissioners.

Not saying that it doesn't happen but has it happened in any of the incidents that the OP mentioned?

Idk, someone just asked "who has what to gain?"

Enemies of the United States

It's all during the weeks surround a massive traffic shift as well, with the baseball stadium opening in the north western suburbs as opposed to the historically impoverished Summer Hill area.

and both those new stadiums were funded largely by taxpayer money without a vote from the people. Meanwhile infrastructure taxes keep getting voted down

Agree with other post: starting to "close off exits". Which is a good reason to allow infrastructure to go to shit.

Hmm, didn't The Walking Dead start in Atlanta?

IM SHOOK.

GA: Is that where the like, 800,000 plastic coffins are, too?

And the Georgia guidestones?

And the best aquarium i've ever been to?

Coffins were in Madison, GA and the Guidestones are in Elberton

Any Amtrak connections between Atlanta and Madison and/or Elberton? Not familiar with the area but it's something to look at. Or rail lines connecting them in general.

Not that I'm aware of. Madison is SE of Atlanta off I-20.

Elberton is more or less country near the South Carolina border. It's not a populated area by any means, and the major interstates of GA don't run through that area.

Interestingly enough the Georgia Guidestones are made of granite, which is basically Elberton's niche as business.

Granite contractors out of Elberton would make good research.

Chances are pretty high for some freemasonry in the granite business yeah lol

No problem.

A little more to add. Atlanta was a huge railroad hub in the 19th century so there is definitely easy rail access to many parts of the state that are still active today.

Also, look into the Colonial gas pipeline if you have the chance. Same general area, and there's been a lot of fuckery going on with leaks and explosions in the past year.

Atlanta still is a major rail hub.

There's no passenger rail between any of these towns.

Madison is close to a freight line that runs between Atlanta and Charleston. Don't know of any that run near Ellenton but seeing how the granite industry is pretty big in that area I would have to imagine there is a rail line or two for hauling the granite to their customers.

That aquarium is awesome

It really is the best in the country.

r/Dolphinspiracy

Evidently, The Walking Dead game was in Atlanta. So, does this imply some kind of bio-terroism?

"In the TV show, the same group is from King County, GA, which does not actually exist. In the first episode, the King County Sheriff's Department is shown to be assisting the Linden County Sheriff's Department, implying that the two counties are close to each other, if not directly beside each other.

In both versions, Rick first travels to Atlanta, GA (generally northern-Georgia or north-western Georgia) and meets the main group just outside of it. Since Cynthiana, KY is 6 hours (driving) to Atlanta, it makes more sense to be coming from the fictional King County on horseback (as he did in both versions)."

https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/33170/where-do-the-events-of-the-walking-dead-take-place

A good bit of early seasons was filmed in atl, but that's not super relevant

Problem with that theory is that neither incident would prevent people from getting the fuck out of Atlanta if it came down to it. They would slow people down in a couple of areas but the majority of people here would have no problem leaving town whatsoever.

Well that's a good thing.

Honestly most of the highway based stuff just sounds like the infrastructure fears people have been pointing out for like 10 years is "coming home to roost" Though the rest of the stuff just sounds like a city being a city, I'm from NYC, they fish bodies out of the rivers and bays all the time, sure some are mob/gang hits or whatever but others are suicides and general murders.

My point is cities are a place where massive amounts of people live together and crime is a part of what you have to expect living in one, and Atlanta has more than it's far share of crime just like it has more than it's fair share of police abuses of power. Now ask the question of who these victims were, and if it's like the Judge that recently was murdered in NYC then maybe you're onto something.

my theory, people are doing dry runs of how to shut down a city.

Wow thats so diabolical it actually makes sense. Thanks for the new perspective.

They've already done this in other countries no need for dry runs here yet.

Perhaps Stevie Stephens is headed there and we'll see a replay of Boston 2013.

The easiest way to shit down Atlanta is to have it snow like it did in 2014.

This is true.

Oh come on. It's not like people can control the weather.

Oh wait...

Don't worry, 90/290/294 shut itself down daily outside of Chicago.

Make the conspiracy something so outlandish everyone would dismiss it as impossible. Interesting.

Follow the money. Do some research into Budgets, always look at who could benefit from this. If it's staged, that will 9 times out of 10 lead you to the culprit. If no one can benefit from this, is probably just that the infrastructure is shitty and some idiot accidentlyncaused anfire.

Sounds like you're on the right track with the mayor.

Wasn't that the same mayor who penned an Op Ed later found to be authored by a Super PAC?

just fyi:

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2014/05/29/mayor-kasim-reed-to-participate-in-annual.html

Atlantan here! Reed's associates are getting dragged out of their offices on the regular now. He's corrupt af and so are his people - then again, so were generations before him.

This is not a city issue, but a state/federal one. These are interstate highways & while GDOT will be in charge of fixing the issue, there is something dangerously fucky happening.

I hate to say it, but we need fed oversight & we need it NOW!

No need to panic. The GOP is deregulating everything so the market can take care of itself and settle things in Thunderdome the way Jesus intended.

Lmao, uh huh, soon as they mentioned deregulating that shit, infrastructures started turning to dust. We all know regulations are what held them up.

i'd be interested to see which company or companies are awarded the contracts for fixing this kind of shit

The privilege dam spillway construction was done so bad multiple independent engineers criticized it before it had collapsed. It cost almost a billion dollars and should've lasted a very long time without any issues. The contract to repair it is around $250 million dollars was recently bid on and I just find it so suspicious that it failed so badly. It could just be a coincidence like what happened in Atlanta or there is some shenanigans. I guess I could find out by seeing who did the original construction on the spillway and see if they got rewarded the contract to repair it as well. But it's way less suspicious than this whole Atlanta thing that's for sure.

Hi, I live in Atlanta and just fyi Sophia isn't even the most interesting character. Her boyfriend who was with her who also identified the suspect is a convicted rapist. They just both happen to be white and the suspect black.

watch who gets the contracts to fix it

Maybe it's Russia trying to destroy our logistics economy by slowly destroying the DOT and decreasing revenue for carrier companies ¯_(ツ)_/¯

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Like Lester Freamon would have advised.

If it's staged, that will 9 times out of 10 lead you to the culprit.

Don't think so, it's more like 1 out of 10 times. Because most conspiracy theories that people come up with aren't the true story. It's hard to piece together what actually happened sometimes, because there are a shitton of possibilities but only 1 truth.

That being said I'm not discouraging people from digging through the information and trying to piece things together, but what more people need to understand is that their specific theory doesn't have to be correct just because it looks like it is. That's how you get people attached to their own pet theories and unwilling to consider something else.

Not sure if I articulated that the right way, but basically the world is a complex system with a lot of interconnected parts, and a cursory search into only online information of budgets by someone who likely isn't even an accountant will not find the culprit 90% of the time..

It's ALWAYS the BUILDERS (Freemasons)

There is ALWAYS someone who benefits..

Atlanta is a relatively smallish city compared to a lot of other well known cities.

We used to be just known for our airport heh and the surrounding area around the city is a bunch of old school neighborhoods and crumbling, old houses.

It has done almost a complete 180 in the last 15 years. Tons of people moved here along with businesses because of the affordable cost of living and benefits for moving your headquarters here.

The sudden influx of extra cash has not gone to a single infrastructure project that it should have gone to, and if people found out about the millions that have gone missing they are going to want arrests.

Remember that woman who was shot on the sidewalk, literally minutes after she walked out with documents and info she had requested so she could start an investigation into this last week?

It's gonna keep happening until people learn to shut up or forget about it. This is local corruption at it's finest.

You dig too deep down here in the south and you're gonna end up on a pig farm.

Got any more info on this shot woman?

What is the woman's name who got shot? Or can you link an article ? Sounds horrible / sketchy

She was investigating a pedofile ring

Dont forget the UPS lawyer that was murdered. I believe it was after she filed paperwork on behalf of an insurance claim related to the fire requesting all info state & federal authorities had on the fire started by the crackheads... http://abcnews.go.com/US/lawyer-targeted-broad-daylight-killing-police/story?id=46567899

You sure they weren't talking about this? From a comment below

My mistake, it was this woman. Still sucks :[

Remember that woman who was shot on the sidewalk, literally minutes after she walked out with documents and info she had requested so she could start an investigation into this last week?

No, I don't remember this. I need a link.

I spent a lot of time looking into this and though officials said she was "targeted" (in the sense that there were plenty of other people, even minorities around, and dude seemed to be following her specifically), I could not find a single source mentioning her examining the I-85 documents that didn't lead back to the original fake news article (which itself gave no evidence for that claim).

Those dots want to be connected since she was previously a construction and government contract attourney, but I need a source better than that bs website that vaguely cited Russian intel. Too sketchy to trust. But then again, so are official reports.

Was the bridge made of wood or am I missing something? What part of a concrete or steel bridge would contain enough fuel to collapse it by fire?

Well if it can bring down a sky scraper why not a bridge

sarcastic

My friends garage burned for maybe 45 mins. Ruined the garage but was still standing the 1/2 steel beams that ran the length of it though were shaped like horse shoes. It was crazy how quickly the beams collapsed.

Ok

The twin towers were designed to withstand the top levels falling onto the lower ones. Unless the jet fuel ran down into the foundation..

Yeah,right.

snh.

lol. Seriously though I believe 9/11 was very obviously a controlled demolition.

It is known.

Just search the original threads from when it happened. Its detailed in a lot of posts. This isn't like steel beams things. The materials can be made to fail structurally fairly easily.

Concrete expands when you heat it up, as does steel, when it cools it retracts. The normal expansion and retraction due to weather is accounted for in the design but a hot fire under the bridge? That would destroy a concrete overpass if it burned long enough. Imagine the rebar expanding within the concrete and then shrinking once more and the concrete cracking from doing the same - countless tiny cracks spreading into bigger and bigger fissures. Even if it didn't start collapsing right away it'd likely be structurally unstable.

Okay but what was burning for that long?

A shit load of pvc electrical conduit.

The place was being used to store the direct burial conduit used for the DoT traffic management and cctv systems.

It wasn't PVC, it was HDPE, which is far more flammable.

True. I use pvc to describe it because people are more familar with it then hdpe. Seeing how there's not much difference between the two it's an easier way to describe what ent is made of.

As for flammability, both burn like a motherfuckers once lite. Thing is, it takes either deliberate arson or seriously gross negligence to get ent to ignite. And even though it does burn like crazy once ignited, neither the DOT, the NFPA,nor OSHA classify it as a flammable substance.

BTW, so you know why I'm so familar with ent. I'm an electrician. Over the years, I've bought stored and installed this product more then a few times. I also live in Atlanta. I used to live only a few miles away from the site and have driven passed it a gazillion times, so I'm pretty familar with the area.

There were hundreds of rolls of HDPE conduit stored under the bridge that burned for several hours. This weakened the concrete where the steel anchors are.

At least that's the story. Doesn't seem impossible to me.

Specifically, it melted the rivets connecting the concrete pieces. Hence the clean looking cut.

You mean the metal expansion joints?

Not claiming anything nefarious, but I'm an Atlanta native myself, now living up in the suburbs. Everyone knows the public transit system here, especially rail (MARTA), is an absolute joke. It has an easy/west line and a north/south line only, tho the north line forks and sends to two areas. Regardless, there has been a huge debate in Atlanta for decades regarding expansion and revitalization but it always fails because people outside of the city, mostly red conservatives, don't want the public transit system coming into their neighborhoods and suburbs, due to the thought that it will bring more crime. Also, who is to pay for it? It falls on proposed sales tax percentage hikes that get voted down because Marta is the only major city public transit system with no state/federal funding whatsoever. Yet Marta is required to submit a budget to the state and legislators determine usage restrictions on Marta's revenue. As mayor Kasim Reed has said himself, this is the struggle of a blue city in a red state. He's battled for expansion and Marta could certainly benefit from the revenue as could the city of Atlanta from increased infrastructure and accessibility.

Since the 85 collapse, tons of those living in the suburbs but working in the city, have been forced to use Marta in order to get into the city. Stations' parking lots have been overflowing ever since, which anyone from here knows is unheard of. Maybe now with forced reliance, those in favor of expanding Marta will sway enough votes.

Just a thought on the cui bono question.

This angle seems possible. I noticed that at the initial announcement there were bus and MARTA people there making statements.. That is the obvious answer as to who benefits if people can't drive. So maybe the bus system and MARTA (I dont' know anything about atlanta, just been robbed there twice) are losing money and don't know how to turn it around. They built it, people aren't riding it and traffic is terrible. Create a situation where the city makes money from increased revenue in what has been a huge money sink and less people driving. Two birds again.

Actually marta is just about the only profitable public transportation system in the entire country. This theory doesn't hold water, especially with other transit systems like MTA in nyc running deficits of $10-15 billion.

Thanks for the info.

Yeah Marta's problem is not that it's here and no one's using it, it's that it's not here and people desperately need it. You basically have to have a car to get most jobs. For real, this is asked in interviews. bosses can't count on you getting there with Marta bc if you miss your bus, you are now an hour late, and buses frequently run up to an hour behind. And it is not safe to bike most places and the city is so sprawly that unless you are very lucky or intentional, you ain't walkin to work or even a grocery store.

They brought in all these jobs and pushed all this housing and didn't expand the highway enough or implement public transpo and driving is just hell

"Red vs Blue." They're both masters to the green.$$$

Sounds like Atlanta's infrastructure is falling apart before our eyes and they're finding scapegoats for the individual instances.

That's not entirely a bad idea

Not entirely, but I lived in Atlanta and the infrastructure was no worse than, say, San Francisco, from a structural standpoint

Remember the MN bridge collapse? I'm glad I didn't need to work around that area when it went down. It's all plausible right now. Also, considering nobody is pushing any agenda in Atlanta related posts, there really might not be anything to this. I'll stay skeptical for a few weeks probably just because of how coincidental it all is.

You've got a good point, and I'd forgotten about the MN collapse. I suppose most of the theories are just conjecture anyway, at this point

Do you remember if it was a national or just a state requirement to have all bridges serviced or replaced within 5 years? Atlanta watches the news like all of us, i think it's time to make it a requirement for them now/again.

In Cali we just had the Oroville Dam incident, which we also are getting money from Trump for, so I don't know if that has anything to do with these "accidents" happening, and a nod to the crumbling infrastructure that no one has put money into. When I look at the evidence of what happened with the dam, it seems odd that they decided to evacuate so many people from the surrounding area and for so long, which ended with the cities developing new evacuation plans "in case this happens again"...It might just be getting us all ready for the evacuations into hollowed out Walmarts, yeah?

Hey I just saw your comment right after I posted a reply about the Orville dam. The spillway had no business failing like it did and the whole project cost around a billion dollars I believe. The bids for the repair came in and they're around $250 million dollars. Idk if there was any shenanigans about how it was constructed but idk it's a lot of fucking money.

Yeah I heard that too, and the bids were in private, as to not detail any info about the spillway?? I find that kind of odd, I don't think the spillway would be the most devastating thing to hurt if that was someone's plan, the dam itself would be the major catastrophe. So yeah I'm just seeing where all of this is going, it smells fishy to say the least. Why they didn't do the repairs when they knew it needed it is beyond me, unless there is a reason why it would benefit a certain population if it were to fail.

Well if the caused a major catastrophe there would be more people looking into it. They don't want to cause a catastrophe they want to make a fuck ton of money without attracting he attention or the world like a catostrophe would. They also don't want criminal investigations or investigations in general which a catastrophe would cause.

A couple things, maybe relevant maybe not:

• ATL airport is the world's busiest airport, serviced by these damaged highways. Perhaps these 'accidents' are aimed at damaging commerce?

• Atlanta is, as of 2010, the nation's 4th largest black-majority city and has long been known as a "black mecca". ( ref ) Perhaps there's some motive of racial division at the heart of this, similar to Detroit.

Hahahaha this is sarcasm right?

Drop a nuke on your own country and you can do anything you want.

I can't believe you are serious. The are already doing what they want en masse. If they dropped a nuke on Atlanta it would do the opposite of what they want it would cause mass revolt. They don't need to drop a nuke they just need to keep entertaining us with distractions keep feeding us with sugar and keep polarizing us with media. The two parties aren't red or blue they are green they don't give a shit about us despite what they make you believe. We elected a billionaire that people thought would care about them. The cycle continues and will never end unless we start attacking the real cause of our social political and economic erosion. Wake up.

I can't imagine them nuking Atlanta. Way too many major corporations with either their headquarters or a major presence here. No way are the ptb gonna shoot themselves in the foot like that.

Yeah you're probably right lol

Or a dirty bomb from materials gotten from the unsecured CDC facilities in Gwinnett.

Dont forget the UPS lawyer that was murdered. I believe it was after she filed paperwork on behalf of an insurance claim related to the fire requesting all info state & federal authorities had on the fire started by the crackheads... http://abcnews.go.com/US/lawyer-targeted-broad-daylight-killing-police/story?id=46567899

Have you found any reliable sources about the paperwork claim? All that I've found lead back to the same fake news article that vaguely cites Russian intel and nothing else. iirc there is no record of her looking up those docs. But if you know of a legit source for this, it's not hard to believe given that she was a construction and gov contract attourney

If I could I would put all these incidents on a map and see if they make anything interesting.

Another pentagram! And with another obelisk in the middle! Ahhhhhn

One thing they may be doing is privatizing roads including interstates. I can see it happening where you have purchase pass and you have it attached to your diagnostics or a sim/GPS chip. That was the first thing I thought of when they did it. Privatize and contract most of the major roads with a toll booth. Company gets paid money to do so. I am not sure it would be easy to get people to want to do it though. No one wants to pay for something that they already pay for. Which the only way to do it would be to create the impression that privatizing it would be better.

It is all a ploy to push the failing MARTA system.

MARTA is the only public transport system in the US that turns a profit. What are you talking about.

Before state grants kick in they seem to regularly be in the hole.... https://www.itsmarta.com/pdfs/MARTA_CAFR2015_v11_FINAL.pdf

Be sure to http://archive.is those links. Pain in the neck for me to do on mobile or I'd volunteer.

What about the 6th district US house vacancy. The I-85 and I-20 issues are in the counties voting tomorrow in a special election. The dems have a chance to unseat a once heavy republican district. Get small minded people pissed off about their commute to work immediately before an election including huge amounts of Soros money. ..just sayin

I20 is not in the sixth district nor is it used by many sixth district voters as a daily commuter route.

85 is,though. Thing is, people in that area are already used to dealing with massive traffic cluster fucks from normal highway construction.

on a slightly related note crack does actually burn hot enough to light pvc street light conduit on fire which does burn like crazy,

But my real contribution is ..... do you know where the bridge burned exactly if the gas provider was one i work for i can tell you if there was a gas main underneath it that could have leaked and ignited happens all the time. My company which will remain unnamed does work in your state and we locate the gas whoever owns it you can call in a locate request for that area and then see what gets marked. That will tell you what is buried there.

Good pattern recognition. More posts like this please.

I had this thought as well. Could it be possible to cause gas lines to rupture through a cyber war? Sure.

Also, some miles west of Atlanta in Alabama there was the huge Colonial Pipeline explosions that have occurred. I wanna say the first one was a leak that caused a short gas crisis for the Southeast as a whole, and the second was a huge explosion while they were working to repair the same leak.

https://www.al.com/articles/19586481/colonial_says_alabama_pipeline

There are tons of leaks occurring to this day with that same Pipeline. Also, I think Colonial is an Alpharetta-based company, which is metro Atlanta.

It would be a pretty good stretch for cyber warfare to be able to do the things you've mentioned. You've got to understand the technology being used. It's not the most up to date. I've personally done contract work for Colonial at Hartsfield Jackson. Really simple automation equipment that's several decades old. I'd imagine the pipelines are exactly the same. I've also done work for Kinder Morgan. Very simple automation and the amount of safety precautions are off the charts.

I'm not saying you're wrong but I am saying it'd be a stretch from what I've seen and know by working in the industry.

Yeah it's highly unlikely. But then again, no one saw Stuxnet coming.

Right. If the equipment I mentioned were dependent upon PLCs the way that nuclear plant was then I'd be telling you 100% that it's possible. It's just that they're very basic in terms of automation so it's harder for me to believe they could do that.

Honestly, the only safeguards we would be able to implement on our PLCs is a password. We don't even use one. So if anyone ever decided to access our network they could do whatever they wanted. Granted I don't work at a nuclear power plant or anything but still.

Wow very interesting. Depending on the motivation for the cyber attack they could cause these issues and completely cover their tracks to make it look accidental. It could be a test run from a state actor or even retaliation.

Fires by/on train tracks are fairly common if the area around the tracks aren't maintained properly. Trains create a lot of sparks that can catch on long dry grass. But I would think it would be easy enough to identify as it happens so often.

Sounds like there's some citizen investigation needed here.

Very interesting threads to pull at OP. The most likely things in my mind are this:

1) Prominent attorneys flock to rep him cause its likely an easy win on a high profile case. Easy pub.

2) Anything shady going on is most likely going to be fairly standard stuff for the industry, cheaper materials used, kickbacks, stuff like that. So I doubt the chem leak from a truck was involved at all. The fire after the incident may have been torching some evidence though.

State employee here (and a frequent visitor of this sub.)

Can assure you that nothing foul is at play. Just shitty infrastructure on top of bad people running things (granted, have you been to the Georgia One building, GDOT headquarter, lately??)

''McDonalds cashier here. I have intimate knowledge of everything that goes on in the McDonalds Board of Directors' meetings, and know everything there is to know about how to raise beef cows.''
''I went to basic training, so now I know as much as any general.''
''The government is pure and honest, and always above board and forthright.''
LOL

I work in an engineering capacity, I do have more intimate knowledge more than my boss's boss (or any political higher ups.)

Your analogy about McDonald's cashier doesn't apply well in this case.

I read Zoobooks and I know everything there is to know about Giraffes

.Just shitty infrastructure on top of bad people running things

This is the most accurate reply I've seen concerning the collapse

A++++ on submitting a well-thought out theory. Posts like these are what make this sub worthwhile.

And another one...: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/dekalb-county/buford-highway-closed-in-brookhaven-over-fire-under-bridge/513514631

Robert L. Ashe - Chairman of the Board (MARTA) Read through his "government and political experience" http://www.bmelaw.com/lawyers-Robbie_Ashe.html

I grew up in Atlanta and go to UGA in Athens about an hour and 15 away. I always thought this stuff was very strange and that there's more to the story.

Supposedly they won't finish the I-85 collapsed bridge until June? I don't understand why they don't work day and night to fix that. Not a conspiracy just baffling to me. It's one of the most important stretches of road in our city-- 8 lanes, right after a merger with highway 400 which feeds into the northern suburbs.

They are working on it night and day.

Plain and simple. The U.S. is under attack

Atlanta is the epicenter/hub of all shipping and logistics that connects the east coast to the gulf and Texas etc. It's vital economically and this can't be understated.

If it looks like anything it's foreign agents attacking the United States.

Don't forget the Oil pipeline blowing in up in Alabama twice as well just a few months back as this is very related in my opinion. That pipeline sent oil North and NE into US and likewise Atlanta is the commercial hub for logistics to the NE. It's the route all oil trucks coming from the gulf and California take to reach NYC and everything in between.

I'm with you. The ports of Savannah are also critical for shipping through GA/Atl.

You just can't win a stand up fight with the U.S. military. Going straight for the heart instead. A country like North Korea for example would love nothing more than to cripple our economy and oil flow and turn the North East into a large scale of what we saw in the Carolinas.

Can confirm about the Carolinas. We weren't even out of gas in my town, but as soon as the rumor mill hit everyone freaked the fuck out and took every vehicle they had to the nearest gas station. Some stations really did run out because of this. People really lost their shit.

The Alabama break and how it affected you guys shows just how vulnerable our infrastructure is and how little time it took to affect the Carolinas.

I'd bet there is evidence of thermite at the site.

There are photos showing iron oxide, a key ingredient in thermite, at the site before the fire.

I would posit that this might not even be an atypical number of events; the arson fire is the outlier, here. Though Atlanta gets screwed hard by the state of Georgia for infrastructure funds, so you'll find them on the list of bridge failures a surprising number of times.

The careless handling and storage of a dangerous amount of what were clearly highly flammable materials under a public bridge on a main highway should have been the first charge laid against whoever was responsible for it simply being there in the first place. Everything else is completely incidental to that.

Some not too bright homeless person seeking shelter and possibly lighting a fire very near or next to it and not knowing how highly flammable it actually was while simply trying to keep warm and then having it go up on him in huge blaze is understandable as is the possibility of him admitting to or feeling responsible for it perhaps in a state of shock over how quick and how big that fire got with nothing he could do about it but just get himself out of there as quickly as possible.

It's very difficult to believe it could have been intentional and very easy to see how the cops could parlay that into busting a dangerous arsonist instead when they have someone that nobody cares or gives two hoots about to take the wrap. Fortunately a few good lawyers seem to have deduced that as well and come to his rescue.

Sparks off the wheels and rail joints by passing trains starting a fire in dry weather or where there's a lot of dry debris laying around aren't all that uncommon nor has the Atlanta region not had more than it's fair share of sink hole troubles that could possibly account for the buckled highway that are both under investigation. As for the truck transport of dangerous, hazardous, and toxic chemicals you can see enough of those virtually every day on our major highways but the truckers are usually the best and most conscientious drivers out there. Not sure you can say that about the one having an accident on a road his rig wasn't supposed to be driving on.

I don't blame you for getting bad vibes or feeling a bit unnerved about this odd collection of recent incidents. Like feeling that you're under some kind of a cloud that's dropping trouble on where you live. Unfortunately bad news often comes in unlikely and disconnected batches that none of us can quite fathom why that should be. Sometimes I think that we aren't aware of how lucky we are when there isn't as much trouble as there more likely ought to be when it comes to the fits and spells of either.

Let me just chime in on this one part:

Two weeks after the 85 incident, a railroad fire occurred under the tracks near the area where the bridge collapsed and the cause of the fire is still unknown.

I'm a railfan (sometimes called a foamer), and model railroader. Bridge fires on railroads really aren't that uncommon. You tend to see these on older bridges where one of two factors come into play. The first being wooden structures, which are typically made of creosoted pine. The second is in areas easily accessed by the homeless.

In both cases, though, the typical cause is the same. Brake dust. Well not the dust itself, but a problem called "brake fire" or in older days "hot boxes".

Let me deviate for just a bit to explain the mechanics of this, and then I'll get into how this happens.

A brake fire, or hot box, is a situation where the wheels of a train car will become overheated. It's possible, in some situations, for this to get so hot that it physically melts the axle of the car. (Those things are six to eight inches thick, solid cast steel. So yeah, we're talking a LOT of friction heat.) In lesser cases, it starts spitting out sparks and droplets of metal. Now though it's called a "brake" fire, it really has little to do with the brake itself. Sure, a stuck brake CAN cause it, but more often than not, it's a bad bearing. Friction builds up, the lubricating oils and greases start to burn, and bad things happen.

So back to why this is a common problem. In the first instance, the older the creosote is, the more likely it is that it will catch fire if the hot metal and grease drips upon it. On the second case, if you have a large homeless population leaving trash under a bridge, the same problem exists.

Some interesting key points:

The bridge is the second bridge to be located at this point. Previously an "open" deck truss and warren truss (google them) were at this location until the mid 1960's when the bridges were replaced.

The current bridge is a hybrid bridge, having a ballasted deck for the most part, but features wooden supports for the decking, atop a small steel open decking on the bottom. (This is to allow for drainage).

Depth of the ballast, at its thickest point, is about one foot.

Fire was on the north end of the bridge, in an area that is a known illegal dumping ground. Police previously had found (and cleaned out) a number of old tires, furniture, and various scrap pieces of wood.

Thank you for the in depth observation and sharing your understanding of that incident as well as your knowledge in the field. I'm convinced this is a Foreign attack on US infrastructure as we've had too many uncanny instances lately in Atlanta and recently Alabamas oil lines

Makes sense. I am familiar with all the things you are talking about.

So yeah, the CSX fire is likely organic in nature. If memory serves, it's not too far from one of the CSX yards in Atlanta, so I could see a bearing going out on a car throwing sparks around that might start this. It could, reasonably, smoulder for some time before actually catching, so the fire could have been in its early stages for hours before it finally took hold.

Thank you for posting this. I have been saying the same thing since it started.

You're doing this right in my opinion. Don't be too fast to explain what's happening and just keep collecting interesting facts until something starts to emerge. So many people get the theory and then make the facts fit.
I didn't know about all that you've posted but I saw that original fire and I wondered how someone could start a fire that would cause an overpass to collapse.

Was watching a show on time travel and the same thing occurred, except it was due to a time travel incident. Not sure.

So the fire was because what was under the bridge? Like a ton of industrial sewage mixed with trash buildup (this would be poor local management and federal since it's an Interstate, right? Or we're people like purposely storing stuff down there?

GDOT was storing construction materials (pvc ent) under the 85 overpass. Both bridges were used by the homeless as a hooverville.

Lmao! Please tell me, oh great and powerful engineer, there couldn't possibly be a plot you're unaware of?

Maybe our infrastructure is just shitty,

Yes. This has been publicly stated for a while. Also, I almost did business with a company that cleans up somewhat polluted sites, and moves waste material. Railroads stack hazardous crap all over the place. Flammable conduit is one of the more benign things sitting under bridges.

I'm sure Cynthia McKinney would know about some of this. I remember her tweeting about a friend of hers that died under suspicious circumstance. I will try to find the tweet, but this friend was investigating child trafficking and was about to out some major politicians in GA.

Racoon City?

I was wondering if it may be trying to force people to be late/take off so much time for work that they couldn't vote to flip the sixth.

Sounds like someone's setting up for real life Walking Dead ..

My read on all of this is that this is a sly way of getting renovation funds for the highways. There's too much going on to just be coincidence.

HERE'S ANOTHER ONE- SINKHOLE IN JOHNS CREEK

There is a Preparedness Summit scheduled for April 25th in Atlanta. http://preparednesssummit.org/

Geez, I can't believe I just read through all 174 of those... Anyways, Atlanta Suburbs resident here. I too am skeptical of recent events. Not that it is necessarily related, but I find it interesting that there are recent rumblings of corruption in the city offices. Two CEO's connected to Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed's staff, pled guilty to bribery charges for city contruction contracts. http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/ceos-charged-in-bribery-case-gave-to-atlanta-mayor-during-controversial-fundraiser/492375397 Additionally, an previous Atlanta Police Department Business manager has recently claimed she was fired for blowing the whistle on Mayor Reed's use of city money for luxury vehicles and police officers as escorts and chauffeurs for personal errands. Might be nothing to it, but its possible that someone is trying to draw public attention away from a possible corruption scandal. Let's do some investigating my fellow ATLiens. Neighborhood crime watch squad assemble?

This is real investigative journalism. I am so glad that I happened to stumble upon this post.

Don't forget also the the same day that I85 collapsed there were two or three other strange incidences in Atlanta as well.

I can't remember the details, but t here was some strange powder found at a construction site, and also...oh hell. My memory is shot.

If I have time I will try to look back into this and see if I can find the articles.

Ok

Wow thats so diabolical it actually makes sense. Thanks for the new perspective.

Perhaps Stevie Stephens is headed there and we'll see a replay of Boston 2013.

The easiest way to shit down Atlanta is to have it snow like it did in 2014.

Don't worry, 90/290/294 shut itself down daily outside of Chicago.

Chances are pretty high for some freemasonry in the granite business yeah lol

That's not entirely a bad idea

Make the conspiracy something so outlandish everyone would dismiss it as impossible. Interesting.

''McDonalds cashier here. I have intimate knowledge of everything that goes on in the McDonalds Board of Directors' meetings, and know everything there is to know about how to raise beef cows.''
''I went to basic training, so now I know as much as any general.''
''The government is pure and honest, and always above board and forthright.''
LOL

The twin towers were designed to withstand the top levels falling onto the lower ones. Unless the jet fuel ran down into the foundation..

.Just shitty infrastructure on top of bad people running things

This is the most accurate reply I've seen concerning the collapse

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