Private Corporations were ILLEGALLY spying on the voters for HRC! This is why the FBI will never get access to the DNC Server!
209 2017-03-22 by 9kokonotsu
The only organization to gain access to the server was Crowdstrike, no one else. Why is this the case? It is an extremely important question to think about.
Ahead of this announcement, the DNC told Buzzfeed on Wednesday that neither the FBI nor any other intelligence agency ever did an independent assessment of the organization’s breached servers. Instead, they alleged, the FBI relied exclusively on information from private digital forensics company Crowdstrike. https://www.wired.com/2017/01/fbi-says-democratic-party-wouldnt-let-agents-see-hacked-email-servers/
Crowd strike is heavily invested in by Alphabet, and is run by a Russian expat.
Google Capital, the two-year-old growth equity arm of search giant Google (GOOG, +0.39%), announced its first security investment on Monday morning. The fund has pumped $100 million into cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike. http://fortune.com/2015/07/13/google-100-million-series-c-crowdstrike/
It is possible that Eric Schmidt (google), the HRC campaign and the DNC created tools that violated privacy rights (see the wikileaks email below). Thus, they couldn't allow law enforcement to examine the server; it would incriminate them for domestic spying and surveillance. Thus, they used a Alphabet owned cyber security firm.
d) Media (paid), (earned) and (social), and polling
New tools should be developed to measure reach and impact of paid, earned and social media. The impact of press coverage should be measurable in reach and impact, and TV effectiveness measured by attention and other surveys.
Build tools that measure the rate and spread of stories and rumors, and model how it works and who has the biggest impact. Tools can tell us about the origin of stories and the impact of any venue, person or theme. Connect polling into this in some way.
Find a way to do polling online and not on phones.
e) Analytics and data science and modeling, polling and resource optimization tools
For each voter, a score is computed ranking probability of the right vote. Analytics can model demographics, social factors and many other attributes of the needed voters. Modeling will tell us what who we need to turn out and why, and studies of effectiveness will let us know what approaches work well. Machine intelligence across the data should identify the most important factors for turnout, and preference.
It should be possible to link the voter records in Van with upcoming databases from companies like Comcast and others for media measurement purposes.
The analytics tools can be built in house or partnered with a set of vendors.
f) Core engineering, voter database and contact with voters online
The database of voters (NGP Van) is a fine starting point for voter records and is maintained by the vendor (and needs to be converted to the cloud). The code developed for 2012 (Narwahl etc.) is unlikely to be used, and replaced by a model where the vendor data is kept in the Van database and intermediate databases are arranged with additional information for a voter.
Quite a bit of software is to be developed to match digital identities with the actual voter file with high confidence. The key unit of the campaign is a “voter”, and each and every record is viewable and updatable by volunteers in search of more accurate information.
In the case where we can’t identify the specific human, we can still have a partial digital voter id, for a person or “probable-person” with attributes that we can identify and use to target. As they respond we can eventually match to a registered voter in the main file. This digital key is eventually matched to a real person.
The Rules
Its important that all the player in the campaign work at cost and there be no special interests in the financing structure. This means that all vendors work at cost and there is a separate auditing function to ensure no one is profiting unfairly from the campaign. All investments and conflicts of interest would have to be publicly disclosed. The rules of the audit should include caps on individual salaries and no investor profits from the campaign function. (For example, this rule would apply to me.)
The KEY things
a) early build of an integrated development team and recognition that this is an entire system that has to be managed as such b) decisions to exclusively use cloud solutions for scalability, and choice of vendors and any software from 2012 that will be reused. c) the role of the smart phone in the hands of a volunteer. The smart phone manages the process, updates the database, informs the citizen, and allows fundraising and recruitment of volunteers (on android and iphone). d) early and continued focus of qualifying fundraising dollars to build the field, and build all the tools. Outside money will be plentiful and perfect for TV use. A smart media mix tool tells all we need to know about media placement, TV versus other media and digital media. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/48822
So what we have here is Alphabet Inc, talking about merging databases of voters with databases from an ISP (comcast) and other companies to generate models of voter habits. However, did voters consent fro their data from a company like Comcast be given to a political party?
They say this:
In the case where we can’t identify the specific human, we can still have a partial digital voter id, for a person or “probable-person” with attributes that we can identify and use to target. As they respond we can eventually match to a registered voter in the main file. This digital key is eventually matched to a real person.
It is clear that they want to associate real identities with voter habits. They want to know who John Smith will vote for, but if they are using data from multiple companies was this data obtained legally and with the consent of our hypothetical John Smith? Depending on how this data is obtained or generated, there could be illegal activity. They could have also violated privacy policies of various companies. I hardly see Comcast caring about it's users. This could be one of the reasons why the FBI was not allowed to look at the servers. The DNC and HRC campaign could be exposed for violating privacy laws. Remember the DNC also was involved in strange issues with voter databases with the Sander's campaign. Probably because they were stealing data from Sanders: http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/29/politics/bernie-sanders-dnc-lawsuit-voter-database/
29 comments
n/a illumination_station 2017-03-22
Bump this shit, good research man. I wouldn't be surprised if this is exactly what's going on.
n/a beefmon 2017-03-22
Nice Post!!!
n/a GoddessWins 2017-03-22
Op /lol
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/koch-brothers-rnc-113359
n/a 9kokonotsu 2017-03-22
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Generally speaking though. Google getting data from an ISP (Comcast) would be highly revealing for the vast majority of Americans. It would allow Google to associate an IP address in its database to real people.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-03-22
Get real, everything you do online is for sale to any bidder.
n/a 9kokonotsu 2017-03-22
That doesn't mean that is a good thing for me or for democracy.
n/a mercurywaves 2017-03-22
In other words, they map the location of the vote in advance of the election.
n/a GlenCompton 2017-03-22
Nuke them all from orbit. Neither party is worth their weight in rhetoric.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-03-22
The Democratic Party and the Republican party have both been fully taken over by the anti-government libertarian globalist trading and resource extracting tribe. It is all Bezos and K0chs now, we Jump to their Jive or get shoved out of the boat from now on.
n/a krom_bom 2017-03-22
Doesn't matter, standard EULA for both ISPs and google services is pretty clear that you don't own that data, Google does (and by extension, Alphabet). Same with ISPs.
So, basically, as shady as you might think this is, there is nothing illegal about it. Google can do whatever the fuck they want with their databases, and so can comcast.
Welcome to the internet, my dude.
n/a 9kokonotsu 2017-03-22
Not sure about that.
n/a krom_bom 2017-03-22
"Market research" fits into that definition. Sorry to burst your bubble.
n/a 9kokonotsu 2017-03-22
How does giving information to a political campaign fall under the umbrella of "legitimate business activity related to, the cable service or other services provided to the subscriber"?
You could probably sue Comcast for giving/selling your details to a political campaign.
n/a krom_bom 2017-03-22
I think what you are misunderstanding is the legal framework for this, and also how effective predictive algorithms are, when you have good data.
First, comcast can sell databases of information without giving any personal information out. Then google can mine those databases and match the info up to real people, and then sell those databses to political campaigns.
I actually do not believe they are doing this, but also, it would be entirely legal.
The part you quoted about identifying the people in the databases, is in reference to using predictive algorithms to "match" anonymous profiles with real people.
n/a 9kokonotsu 2017-03-22
I guess it all depends on what is defined as "personal information". Is an IP address defined as such?
n/a krom_bom 2017-03-22
well good thing that is extraordinarily unlikely and there is zero evidence to suggest that. so rest easy, friend.
n/a krom_bom 2017-03-22
Idk why you would downvote that other comment, I'm just trying to educate you on these matters.
n/a 9kokonotsu 2017-03-22
I don't upvote or downvote anything on this subreddit unless it is spam. So that wasn't me.
n/a krom_bom 2017-03-22
weird.... i swear, it's evidence of botswarms. I will get random downvotes in some buried comment thread like 1 second after posting. idk man....
n/a 9kokonotsu 2017-03-22
I posted the same topic earlier today (different title) and it got down voted really heavily. I do think there are bots or shills that on this subreddit. There also seems to be a lot forum sliding on the raising page.
n/a RedPillFiend 2017-03-22
It's botswarms. I've had just a comment of "lol" or other neutral comments downvoted in waves here.
n/a HuggableBear 2017-03-22
You're misunderstanding what these terms mean. When they talk about "personally identifiable information contained in our business records", that means they will not give out that information if someone asks for it.
However, if you enter it into an online form, then you just put it into the public domain (I know it's not exact, but that's essentially their argument) and at that point they're not giving out anything you didn't already give out yourself.
Any data you put online is being gathered, period .
n/a martini-meow 2017-03-22
Just saw news that legislators are working on laws to allow ISPs to share your private data no matter what you prefer :(
n/a 9kokonotsu 2017-03-22
That's not good.
n/a Spartan1117 2017-03-22
Yep, and all the people that voted for it are Republicans :(
n/a LurkPro3000 2017-03-22
Yeah, but ethically should politicians be using those tools to manipulate voter behavior, or to possibly target Specific areas with voter fraud, or to use to gerrymander for future elections? That's the kind of shit that ruins the democratic process
n/a Fuck_Steve_Bannon 2017-03-22
Welcome to the internet.. lol
n/a 9kokonotsu 2017-03-22
Would you like having your web searches, social media posts, emails etc. stored on the DNC servers which were easily hacked with old malware? Nobody knows who has what data on whom and were it is now.
n/a Chill_Confirmed 2017-03-22
And they still lost.
n/a Boomaloomdoom 2017-03-22
Good research