There was a good sticky on this up in this sub until recently about astroturfing in r/esist. It's like they aren't even trying to hide it.

It seems to me like it would make much more sense to consolidate all of your likeminded people into one sub to be able to get to the FP with just your userbase (a la TD), not into 25 different subs with the same agenda that clearly aren't getting to the FP by their own means. Often you can go to these subs and see they have one post from the day at 20k+ upvotes while everything else on their "hot" page sits around 50-200

Like the_donald, conspiracy, pussypassdenied, uncensorednews, etc?

The difference between those subs and MarchAgainstTrump, Trumpgret, Resist, TinyTrumps, etc is that those other subs: 1. Existed before Trump 2. Have a purpose that isn't explicitly political 3. Aren't experiencing what could be interpreted as astroturfing

Orrrr, and let me just float a radical idea here, the opposition to trump grows day by day and you're on a generally pretty liberal website.

But this doesn't explain why the average "hot" post on resist gets upvoted by less than 1% of its subscribers and inexplicably gets 1 post per day on average to the frontpage

I'm not denying what you're saying is surely a factor as well. I don't think all 46k of resist's subscribers are fake. I think it's a combination of both, with the vast majority likely being real subscribers. I think it is very likely that other subs are astroturfing in favor of Trump. I just happen to think it's more obvious when it comes to the anti Trump subs that there is something suspicious going on.

There was a Donald post where their was something like 800k up votes that as documented a few weeks ago. Every sub will have their bots/users looking to manipulate the narrative. It's what happens when your forum grows to the size of reddit

And I absolutely agree with what you're saying. My only argument is that it is much easier to find evidence of this at present in the anti Trump subs due to the fact that in TD and similar subs, the genuine users also fervently upvote everything pro Trump, making manipulation harder to see. whereas in places like resist the userbase doesn't seem to be as naturally active, which makes it easier to see.

800k upvotes??? I go there every day and have never seen that.

You do realise you can view a subs most popular posts of all time in order don't you?

Just been to T_D and no post has ever come close to even a quarter of the amount of up votes you're claiming. Could you possibly find this post that was apparently documented a few weeks ago and post the link? I would really appreciate it.

Thanks.

I don't particularly like Trump but that being said, just because a group dislikes Trump doesn't make them the "good guys."

Be aware of propaganda, especially the stuff you agree with.

I don't disagree.

Are you fucking kidding me?

It's the same damn thing.

Conspiracy had nothing to do with Trump before T_D came in and took it over and used it to push tons of stuff to the frontpage.

r/esist is pronounced "ray-sist" ?

"-cyst"

FTFY friend

Smaller subs are more easily able to reach the front page

Why is everything y'all disagree with not genuine?

your yall is not genuine.

they've got to play the victim card constantly... it really gets tiresome, and it's extremely hypocritical when they keep calling out their adversaries on it (not without reason mind you)

Be more concerned about the sudden appearance of pro-Trump and pro-Conspiracy alternatives to T_D and r/conspiracy.

Interesting take.

My experience is that not one person I’ve spoken to in the US, Ireland or Australia thinks that Donald Trump or his Administration are good for the world.

Just because you might support him, it doesn’t discredit how many people are detractors.

You're absolutely right, it doesn't detract from the fact that there are many people who don't like him, but that's exactly the argument. If there are so many of them, why does one post hit 30k upvotes per day while the rest of the sub is sitting so low? Resist has 46k subscribers, how come nothing gets over 500 votes unless it's getting sent to the front-page, which only happens with around 1 post per day? If all the posts were sitting around 500-1000, with a couple big 10k+ posts, I wouldn't have any suspicions at all

because 1 post per days gets on all/rising and then rises from there

Well then you're in an echo chamber. Get out of Dublin. I have a few friends who live by the media headlines, but the majority are up for acknowledging truths. Now red pilling is acceptable at dinner parties. The media are for the dogs, people are getting wise on the Russia shtick.

not one person I’ve spoken to in the US, Ireland or Australia

Get out of Dublin

FFS, have a read, mate.

I did, and my personal experience of 2/3 places mentioned directly contradicts yours. Here's a tip: If the default position fed to people is baseless hatred you'd be surprised how easy it is to appeal to common sense. If you attempt to defend Trump at all you won't see the headline-parrot reaction in people. Shocking! In fact you'll find centipedes keeping quiet out of shame and intimidation.

A lot of people will laugh along at the piss jokes because they haven't had to form their own opinion. I'd suspect there's people you know that are growing weary of you, should you be the sort to constantly bring up Trump. They'll agree and grit their teeth. I know because I've had to do it, as have my Trump supporting friends (in Ireland).

Rough numbers put pro-Trump at about 1/3 here, of those who participate in polling or other social media. That's without even touching on the older generation... but they're just old and backwards, right? Should die, no?

ECHO CHAMBER.

I think the world is finally tiring of the US governments shit now.

Solution Take all accounts less than four years old and remove all comments. Can we have our sub back now?

Maybe, just maybe, those remaining with the ability to think critically recognize DT as an enormous threat to humanity and react accordingly?

Why do you people feel the need to defend trump all the time. He is pretty unpopular, especially on Reddit.

Or, you know, reddit is full of liberal leaning people who hate Trump...

/r/politics is so, so anti-Trump.

It's disgusting. It's biased. You can't post anything remotely pro-Trump without instantly being spam-downvoted by bots. I watched a post receive an inhuman amount of downvotes within 60 seconds of being posted today.

TL;DR Shit's crazy.