If Obama pardoned Hillary what would happen?
5 2016-12-27 by asslena
Would people riot? Would WL and JA release the dead mans switch and bring the system down? Would FBI lead a mutiny and along with NYPD blow the Pizzagate case wide open?
5 2016-12-27 by asslena
Would people riot? Would WL and JA release the dead mans switch and bring the system down? Would FBI lead a mutiny and along with NYPD blow the Pizzagate case wide open?
32 comments
11 popups4life 2016-12-27
Hate to ask this...but pardon her for what? She has to be accused of a crime before there's reason to pardon her.
6 martini-meow 2016-12-27
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_Richard_Nixon
sadly, no:
2 popups4life 2016-12-27
Hmm.. with Nixon the evidence was lined up and ready for charges to be filed. With Hillary she's been"cleared of wrongdoing" by FBI so I would hope it's a bit of a stretch to pardon her for crimes she may have committed even if FBI said they weren't crimes.
1 Spider__Jerusalem 2016-12-27
She has to be convicted of a crime to be pardoned, or she can admit guilt.
1 KinglyWeevil 2016-12-27
That's not true. A pardon can be issued for crimes which may or may not have been committed.
5 Ninjakick666 2016-12-27
Obama would be turning the gun on himself... right now it is safely pointed at HRC... Shes old and gonna die soon... let her go down... she ain't worth saving... If Obama pardons her... who is gonna pardon him?
Obama's Legacy will be not spending the rest of his life is prison. He's had his strings cut... he will play nice. He hinted at his final speech he wouldn't pardon her.
2 The_Watterboy 2016-12-27
He does have the ability to pardon himself fyi
2 Ninjakick666 2016-12-27
That doesn't sound right... I'll have to look into that... you think that is why they got the fake birth certificate thing lined up? "Oh? You wanna pardon yourself? Guess what! You never were President! No pardon powers for you!"
edit - I guess he can but a pardon cannot be used on civil or state crimes... so there is that.
3 The_Watterboy 2016-12-27
Who knows - the situation appears to be extremely convoluted; it seems like it is substantially more complicated than the public realizes. One thing I will compliment the government on is that they have done a great job keeping us in the dark about exactly what is happening - no leaks whatsoever. We are stuck with sheer speculation
2 Ninjakick666 2016-12-27
Ooooh... I know exactly what is going on... they can't legally tell us everything, but they will tell us everything they legally can.
Huge changes to the government coming in... that drain the swamp rhetoric is actually going to happen... this has been in motion for years... so many people are going to prison it will be nuts... no need for Hollywood when real life is such much more of a spy thriller....
Sneak Preview of things to come post-inauguration.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/odebrecht-and-braskem-plead-guilty-and-agree-pay-least-35-billion-global-penalties-resolve
2 The_Watterboy 2016-12-27
Dang, thats some heavy shit. Funny - i didnt see that reported ANYWHERE. But it is an extremely insightful article that does indeed hint that what you're saying is correct.
So, do you have a fairly positive opinion on Trump? Do you see him as the sort of 'conduit' that the honest channels of govt needed in order to push a crackdown? Or do you see him as irrelevant?
I am struggling to determine if this is actually a game of Good vs Evil; or if it is just two different shades of evil in Evil vs Evil for control of power
1 Ninjakick666 2016-12-27
You are correct... Trump is just the tip of the spear... the long arm of the law... FBI 2.0's Flashbang... He's a pretty small part of the equation... but still very important. There are a lot of moving pieces but none of it hinges entirely upon him... He's got fucking balls of steel though... he knew assassination lurks around every corner... so you know he trusts the FBI & Friends... they got the armed forces on board... These are organizations made up of people... good one and bad ones and everything in between. The good guys are sick of being shit on... the baddies are outnumbered, outgunned and outsmarted. They are fuckin' done... sent reeling for a century at least... It's always gonna be Yin and Yang... but were now shifting to a very creative and constructive epoch... with just a touch of destruction.
You know good exists... why would it be 2 evils facing off?
1 The_Watterboy 2016-12-27
Because, I think the public is generally 'good'. But that doesn't mean that the 'good' has any level of representation in the government body. It could just be two different types of Evil that are fighting to take control over the docile 'good' people. Two different evil factions, basically- thats generally how governments work, anyways.
2 Ninjakick666 2016-12-27
Thats how governments want you to think it works so that you don't think there is any rational hope that good will ever win...
1 huktheavenged 2016-12-27
it's a free wind that blows against the empire....
3 sciototrails 2016-12-27
Man I wish had the faith in Trump that is exhibited by this post. If any action is taken against Hillary for selling influence to foreign governments that would keep Trump from being allowed to do it. That is the whole point of Wikileaks. If you know officials (Hillary) are that corrupt from reading their own words and no action is taken then it must be the will of the people to be ruled by scum.
2 Ninjakick666 2016-12-27
What if I was to tell you that the FBI set up their own non-public version of wikileaks... so they could track all the dirty dealings behind the scenes without any baddies catching wind... their own "walled garden"... and it has a bad assed logo!
https://www.fbi.gov/image-repository/iguardian.jpg
1 sciototrails 2016-12-27
I have hope that enough good people have not succumbed to nihilism that real change can still happen. Unfortunately, I don't have any inside information and will have to wait with the rest of the mushrooms (kept in the dark and fed bullshit) until after Jan. 20 to see if change for the better occurs. Cool logo, if the FBI acts in the interests of the peoples of the US it will be a welcome change to co intel assassinations and other mischief they appear to be guilty of.
1 Ninjakick666 2016-12-27
Inside info... Just wait it's all coming...
http://i.imgur.com/i1RajGS.jpg
https://www.justice.gov/usao/pressreleases
1 sciototrails 2016-12-27
Oh, I have patience. I would love to know of the interplay between the NSA, CIA and FBI. It is impossible from my view to see any white hats. I love the second link. I may spend the rest of the day looking things up there. Thanks.
1 Ninjakick666 2016-12-27
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/odebrecht-and-braskem-plead-guilty-and-agree-pay-least-35-billion-global-criminal
There is a fun one... You know sooooo many more people are implicated if these guys all plead guilty... They must have ratted out everyone in order to avoid execution.
1 sciototrails 2016-12-27
That was an interesting article to read. That it might root out some high level criminals in our government is encouraging I believe in a free market with the same rules for everyone. The corruption that frightens me even more is organizations like dyncorp and statfor that seem to be as much a part of the government as they are the private sector. They seem to profit by destabilizing and creating fear and violence.
2 Ninjakick666 2016-12-27
Odebrecht was just as bad as Stratfor... they just didn't get their shit leaked so we don't know how bad it was... Even in the 90s they fucking assassinated a Brazilian governor and burned his office down to hide their corruption... I think Odebrecht helped get Qaddafi killed... The article reads like a crime thriller... and it says right there that the FBI & Friends found all the secrets in their spreadsheets. This is the beginning of the end for a lot of corruption... I've been spending months in the .gov matrix... I can read the code... it's impossible to describe... but they are gonna Drain The Swamp for real.
1 sciototrails 2016-12-27
Thank you. I hope you are correct. Positive change brought about non violently will be beautiful to observe. Don't get me wrong, if guilty scumbags have to be brought to justice with violence so be it. I have bookmarked the justice.gov link and I will watch for further progress. Reading good things the government is doing is just as entertaining as reading about the bad.
1 Ninjakick666 2016-12-27
Yeah... watch those .gov addresses... Especially https://www.federalregister.gov/ if you have the time... FedReg is like the facebook for the entire US government.
3 WTCMolybdenum4753 2016-12-27
Get off just like Nixon probably. Seems the Pizzagate food chain goes too high to be blown open.
2 huktheavenged 2016-12-27
just keep grabbing loose threads of the NWO's sweater until they're naked.
3 aethelberga 2016-12-27
If he pardoned her, absent an accusation or a conviction, it would pretty much convince people she had done something .
2 lily_levasseur 2016-12-27
Perhaps all of that would happen.
However:
Obama would implicate himself, which so far, has not happened.
2 Ninjakick666 2016-12-27
"One thing I have that done, is to be pretty scrupulous about not wading into investigation decisions or prosecution decisions or decisions not to prosecute. I have tried to be really strict in my own behavior about preserving the Independence of law enforcement free from my own judgments and political assessments in some cases. And, I don't know why I would stop now." Obama 12/16/16 about Comey and FBI case.
1 MattyGoodfella 2016-12-27
It would just be more of the same. 2 sets of laws.
0 pby1000 2016-12-27
Well...
2 Ninjakick666 2016-12-27
Ooooh... I know exactly what is going on... they can't legally tell us everything, but they will tell us everything they legally can.
Huge changes to the government coming in... that drain the swamp rhetoric is actually going to happen... this has been in motion for years... so many people are going to prison it will be nuts... no need for Hollywood when real life is such much more of a spy thriller....
Sneak Preview of things to come post-inauguration.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/odebrecht-and-braskem-plead-guilty-and-agree-pay-least-35-billion-global-penalties-resolve
1 Ninjakick666 2016-12-27
You are correct... Trump is just the tip of the spear... the long arm of the law... FBI 2.0's Flashbang... He's a pretty small part of the equation... but still very important. There are a lot of moving pieces but none of it hinges entirely upon him... He's got fucking balls of steel though... he knew assassination lurks around every corner... so you know he trusts the FBI & Friends... they got the armed forces on board... These are organizations made up of people... good one and bad ones and everything in between. The good guys are sick of being shit on... the baddies are outnumbered, outgunned and outsmarted. They are fuckin' done... sent reeling for a century at least... It's always gonna be Yin and Yang... but were now shifting to a very creative and constructive epoch... with just a touch of destruction.
You know good exists... why would it be 2 evils facing off?