The EU referendum is the greatest challenge to the global political landscape in half a century. The NWO elite are desperate to keep Britain penned in the EU, because the European superstate is a vital component of their plan for a one-world government.
120 2016-06-23 by Sabremesh
There is a huge amount at stake. If the majority of fairly cast ballots vote for Britain to Leave the EU (and are also fairly counted) it will be a mortal wound to the European Union - other countries will clamour for their own referendums, and the whole edifice will disintegrate over the next decade or so. The globalists simply aren't going to let his happen.
There are numerous ways in which David Cameron (and a large part of the British political establishment) has been doing the bidding of the globalists to secure a Remain announcement on 24 June 2016.
The British government circled the wagons to ensure the mainstream debate would be between different factions of the Conservative Party, and excluded Nigel Farage and UKIP. Even though Boris Johnson and Michael Gove have been giving very convincing performances as Brexit cheerleaders, they are still true blue Tories, and therefore if not controlled, then "controllable" opposition.
The government spent a lot of public money on pushing the Remain Campaign printing Remain leaflets, but they also used the civil service until a few weeks ago to help push the Remain agenda. Many people suspect that British Security Service (MI5) or its subcontractors are still working towards this outcome.
The people of Gibraltar are allowed vote in the referendum , and they should not be, because Gibraltar is not part of the UK, and their interests are quite different from those of people in the UK. Because of their proximity to Spain, the overwhelming majority of Gibraltarians favour Remaining in the EU. Obviously, the population of Gibraltar is tiny (32,000) but if the Leave vote is thwarted by a very narrow margin, then this could negatively affect the way many Brits feel about Gibraltar. The government will not hesitate to use Gibraltar as a scapegoat.
As has previously been reported, there was a suspiciously large number of last minute online voter registrations (about 2 million in the final week) . The government even passed emergency ad hoc legislation to get the registration period extended. This was completely unconstitutional but also, ironically, anti-democratic. Plebiscites are processes by which the public expresses their views, but the "process" part is just as critical as the "vote" part. You can't set the rules, and then change the goalposts with emergency legislation because some of your demographic were too disorganized to register in time! There could yet be a court challenge to this action by the government.
These last minute registrations - are they all genuine, or are some made up people? Or might they real people, who have been registered for the vote - without their knowledge? Are their votes going to be cast for them (either by proxy or by postal ballot) - without their knowledge? Postal votes are probably the biggest risk factor to the integrity of the UK paper ballot voting system , and if a significant amount of these last minute vote registrations are for postal ballots, that will be a huge red flag.
As has been discussed elsewhere, the absence of exit polls is another red flag that a rigged result is on the cards. Exit polls are normally very accurate, and they would have imposed restrictions on how far the vote could be rigged without drawing suspicion.
Whilst he print media have been split between Leave and Remain (The Telegraph, Daily Mail, Express, Spectator are pro Brexit, and the Guardian, Independent, Times, Mirror are against), the television media has been uniformly biased against Brexit . The BBC has been trashing whatever credibility it had left by pushing Remain.
It is likely that a result will be announced around 7am GMT on Friday 24 June. Whether the announcement reflects how the people of the UK actually voted is perhaps something that we will never know, but there have been enough red flags to ensure that a Remain announcement will be greeted with considerable suspicion.
Please use this thread to add any further issues which have struck you as dubious about the run up to the UK's EU referendum, and of course, anything that strikes as "off" after polls close.
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1 Sabremesh 2016-06-23
OK, so polls have closed, and the result will be in within the next 5-7 hours.
Apparently Nigel Farage has already "conceded defeat" which is a pretty odd thing to do, particularly after going awol yesterday and missing the final debate. He doesn't know the result, so why would say this? Has he been threatened, bribed to "pre-corroborate" the fixed "Remain" announcement tomorrow morning, to make it seem more plausible? Predictive programming and all that. God knows.
Anyway, this post will be stickied (with the required mod approval) for 24 hours.
And I am also stickying this comment for the sole benefit of /u/orangutan . Enjoy.
Update 12pm GMT. The Betfair exchange odds have seen a major swing towards Leave (down from 17 to 4) following rumours of a very good Leave result from the Sunderland count (the first one due to announce its results)
http://politicalbetting.com/
There should be plenty of drama during the next few hours, but unless the Leave % nationally is overwhelming, I expect that Remain will somehow "find the votes" in the major metropolitan areas which are due to report last.
Update 2am: The North East of England is barnstorming to Brexit, and the odds have swung massively towards the UK leaving the EU at this point. However, the large metropolitan areas which report results towards the end of the process, and in particular London, are likely to be heavily pro-Remain, and this is when large numbers of postal ballots can be used to swing the overall total back to Remain. I think the Brexit celebrations are still premature, unfortunately. Still, here's hoping.
2 Orangutan 2016-06-23
Brexit: What Is It About? -- by Paul Craig Roberts - Wall Street understands that the defeat of Brexit means a shortened lifespan for London as a financial center, as it is impossible to be a financial center unless a country has its own currency and central bank.
Also... If you can get the setting to show the score of stickied comments that would be ideal in my opinion.
And allow responses to stickied comments to show if you would.
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2 daneelr_olivaw 2016-06-23
Dude, they voted to leave, how were you bang on? There is no conspiracy here.
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-2 NZ_NZ 2016-06-23
all of a sudden everyone is talking about brexit. even the thread stickied. why do you care everyone paying attention to this? somethings fishy.
im convinced lots of online shills are getting paid to post about brexit. not sure why. why put it in the headlines if it is so important to the shadow elite?
/r/conspiracy is getting more and more like an ugly feminist. its as stupid as the spotlight movie. a distraction. pedophiles are everywhere, not only in the catholic church. so theyre obviously doing something else as everyone is looking away.
2 daneelr_olivaw 2016-06-23
It is big news. EU is a huge market and an influatial body. We are now witnessing the beginning of it's end. To claim that it's not worthy of attention is to admit one's ignorance.
2 ronintetsuro 2016-06-23
You reek of agenda pushing yourself. All of a sudden everyone is talking about Brexit because of the massive economic and geopolitical implications of the referendum's outcome. Feel free to educate yourself or ignore it. But to claim it's not newsworthy is far more suspect than the coverage Brexit is getting.
-1 NZ_NZ 2016-06-23
Well done, Satan. Almost tricked me there... Great speech. BRAVO. Bravissimo....
2 ronintetsuro 2016-06-23
Satan is a myth you use to externalize your own impulses. To prevent yourself from accepting truths outside of a worldview others are using you to profit from. Good luck with that.
-1 NZ_NZ 2016-06-23
exactly....
if satan was real he was probably an atheist. right? since its unlikely he would worship god, nor would he have worshiped himself.
busted, satan.... :D cant fool me, cant have my soul... can you?
2 ronintetsuro 2016-06-23
What does any of this have to do with Brexit coverage?
1 NZ_NZ 2016-06-23
LOL, sorry I got carried away. They're making all kinds of pun in this thread .
And this is /r/conspiracy anyway :)
Do you live somewhere in Europe? This is why you're very concerned?
26 transfire 2016-06-23
You know what's really sad? A "one world government" wouldn't be such a bad thing if it weren't run by these rich elitist bastards. If instead it were built on a foundation of sound Enlightenment principles and gave every member state wide autonomy -- the world could be a much better place. But we don't even have that in the USA, where it is constantly espoused. It's all a lie.
7 americangoyisback 2016-06-23
Of course Terra will be united one day. But not now, not to be ruled by psychopathic elites who set different races/groups/peoples against each other for LULZ and profit.
3 ArtCulmination 2016-06-23
First you have to build the real globalism. The interconnectedness of people. Internet was step 1. Sidestepping them is step 2.
2 luckinator 2016-06-23
But trying to commit genocide against the white race was not a good way to produce "interconnectedness of people" and that is why Britain split from the EU. The people of any nation need to control their own borders, or there is no nation. That's the fatal flaw with the EU. European nations have no control over their own borders. And those who control the bureaucrats who run the EU decided to use this weakness to destroy Europe with black and Muslim immigration. Instead, it is going to destroy the EU, and good riddance.
1 americangoyisback 2016-06-23
Engerland is fucked. Instead of hordes of Poles (my peeps), Romanians, and other Eastern Euros plus hordes of pakis and hindus, now you're stuck with hordes of pakis.
Rotherham (and all the rest of Engerland) is and WILL BE happy hunting ground for "grooming" and raping of children by them.
They are commonwealth, and already citizens, you see.
Engerland is fucked.
0 Jedy_hacker 2016-06-23
It's not over yet mate, we have a long way to go.
5 quantifiably_godlike 2016-06-23
Yep, a ground-up global community is hopefully in our future, as a natural, organic inevitability of the species. A top-down world-government concocted by the investment class to create favorable trade scenarios & moving cheap labor around the world at their behest for the sake of shareholder value, will be a disaster for this species.
Was really happy to see the 'underclasses' give the 1% a swift kick in the nuts tonight.
4 wrongisright9 2016-06-23
One government for the entire world is dangerous notion and incredibly susceptible to corruption and that corruption would damage every single person in the world's well being. I would much rather have a competition of ideas and governments that are all free and all hopefully enlightened.
What happens when all that power is concentrated in so few peoples hands? Eventually (and rather quickly) it gets corrupted by money and political power. Its hard to brush that off in any scenario. Where there is power and money, our nature has shown that people will eventually bend the rules.
That is why having multiple sovereign governments all hopefully enlightened and well meaning is a better way to go imo. We get a diversity of ideas and policies. We don't all have to be governed in the same way as every other person and we can see what works best.
Right now we have a bunch of theoretically independent countries but anytime they try to be truly independent they get singled out for regime change or war.
One government for the entire world seems like a terrible terrible idea to me and I hope like heck it never happens.
1 transfire 2016-06-23
I think we agree more than you realize. I made a point of "wide autonomy" for member states. The problem today is that we have states that can't agree to disagree. So today's world is more like what you fear. I am right there with you in thinking the competition of ideas and governments is the way to go. That should be the general framework of a word-wide government.
2 eupf 2016-06-23
I don't know...perhaps in the distant future, but if you ask me history has shown that such things are beyond our reach for now. Humanity is still far too tribalistic and swayed by things like greed and power. Constant negotiations in trade, border disputes, land rights, etc, between sovereign nations with hopefully well-informed populations are our best hope for now.
2 Mragogo 2016-06-23
Exactly and that is what I disliked about the normal people I saw who were remainers who were absolutely hateful towards leavers and thought that they were stupid. But it's not true, with all the issues we currently have Humanity isn't ready for it and ontop of that the UK wasn't fixable whilst in the EU, so I don't understand how that simple point is missed or is considered stupid
0 loserlame 2016-06-23
I think it's that tribalism actually is the answer to successful life. Like other forms of government, there are good and bads, but not all tribes were violent. Self-sufficiency is the only way to survive for long periods (1000's of years) of time, only God can touch you or your people at that point.
17 HulaguKan 2016-06-23
So what happened? I thought the people who rule the world in secret would prevent this from happening?
3 WingedBeing 2016-06-23
The NWO also ONCE AGAIN failed to repeal the Second Amendment after their latest false flag gun seizure attempt in the US, and instead managed to make the opposition look like adults and proponents look like disgruntled children who are exploiting a national tragedy.
TPTB have really lost their touch.
-1 greggerypeccary 2016-06-23
Could be a "pressure valve" type of thing: let the plebes have their vote and then wait a few months for everyone to forget, then proceed with the agenda as normal.
1 makeplayz 2016-06-23
Or, allow Britain to leave the EU and then use "terrorist attacks" to rejoin it. "See, we need the EU to keep you safe. As soon as we became independent we were attacked."
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-9 luckinator 2016-06-23
You are a boob, if you think Multiculturalism is a good thing. You don't know anything.
13 TheZetetics 2016-06-23
LoL! No it's not! "The EU referendum is the greatest challenge to the global political landscape in half a century." LMAO! It's the top post on r/conspiracy, the top sentence to read, come on people, use your brains. No VOTE will be the causative factor to any major change in this world . There is a war being waged on your understanding of the world. LoL, any news source stating that the act of voting is going to change something is disinformation , etc, etc.
3 badgertime33 2016-06-23
So apparently the vote was predicted to be largely in favor of staying in the EU, i think its going to end up being a super-close LEAVE vote. what's your take on the result??
3 PrivilegeCheckmate 2016-06-23
I believe we will be revisiting the possibility of an independent Scotland now.
13 _parse 2016-06-23
Brexit confirmed.
5 wrongisright9 2016-06-23
Awesome. Great day for Britain and for the World really. Concentrating more power in fewer hands is always a bad idea.
2 conzorz 2016-06-23
What the fuck
10 WingedBeing 2016-06-23
I know right? So boring, there must be a way to reinterpret this as a conspiracy!
7 HulaguKan 2016-06-23
Wait, I know!
Let UK leave EU.
Ruin the UK's economy.
Make others afraid to leave EU.
Take back UK after much groveling and bootlicking and having sign over everything to the Rothschilds.
Or something like that.
0 beer_and_ 2016-06-23
Uh, Cameron resigned before he honored his "promise." You know this vote isn't binding, right?
Just keep watching. The UK is far from gone.
2 lloydbennett1 2016-06-23
Yeah we are.
10 gaseouspartdeux 2016-06-23
Well it's final Great Britain chose to leave and PM David Cameron has resigned as Prime Minister. Thus ended the conspiracy of the elite trying to maintain control. This is what happens when the voters come out in full force and make it known what they want. Britains braved even shitty flooding rains and thunderstorms, and spoke their mind. Well done Brits showing the power of getting off the ass and voting! Now if we could get Americans to do the same on getting a third party in.....
5 Mragogo 2016-06-23
Not yet they are saying a Second referendum is highly likely simply because it was a under 75% turnout and it wasn't 60/40 so yeah great democracy right?
7 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
The best part about this is that BREXIT has never had nor will ever have any chance whatsoever and the limeys have absolutely no way to actually fight back since they need a license to buy a butter knife.
Rule Britannia, Britannia rule the waves! Britons never ever ever... will... be...
Well.
8 RAGEagnst_Machine 2016-06-23
In Britain we challenge the government regularly. This referendum is the sole biggest threat to elites / establishment in the last 40 years. You hide in your hole with your gun while your rights and future is slowly and legally dissolved.
-7 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
No, you don’t. You haven’t done so since 1945.
Which is why they won’t be letting you go. And you have absolutely no power whatsoever to stop it. The genocide will continue, your daughters will be raped to death, and you will sit on your fucking asses holding your butter knives doing absolutely nothing about it.
You don’t even know what a gun is.
Except we’re fighting for them. Unlike you. Sorry.
Molon Labe, marxist.
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2 SovereignMan 2016-06-23
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3 RAGEagnst_Machine 2016-06-23
Did you forget the paragraph about what you and your potato gun are currently doing to challenge your government?
-4 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
We have rights because they will be slaughtered otherwise. That’s the foundation of all government since the Magna fucking Carta. Learn your history.
0 badgertime33 2016-06-23
If you believe a piece of paper gives you rights than your knowledge of history is completely useless.
1 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
Good thing I didn’t say that, then.
2 The_Noble_Lie 2016-06-23
Indeed he did get wrecked. Enjoyed the read. Thanks.
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2 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
Enjoy being slaughtered, bong. I have no sympathy for your kind.
We have rights because they will be slaughtered otherwise. That’s the foundation of all government since the Magna fucking Carta. Learn your history.
1 SovereignMan 2016-06-23
Rule 10. Removed.
5 BritishHaikuBot 2016-06-23
Gobby, bung barmy
Cadbury's nap number plate
Red not dead Maggie.
Please enjoy your personalised British inspired Haiku responsibly.
4 Rhymes-like-dimes69 2016-06-23
I mean you must feel so fucking stupid. We voted out, maybe not everything is rigged, mug
1 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
No, I actually support leaving, alongside a list of things that would get me banned from Reddit if I was to say them. If England actually leaves (and then does those things), I would finally have cause to be happy with the world.
So far.
Write-in votes.
3 Rhymes-like-dimes69 2016-06-23
I just think people in hear are sometimes so deluded they forget not sine things are as they seem. Bookies git it 1/7 now so it's pretty certain. Price of gold dropping. This could be huge
6 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
MARK MY WORDS: the forthcoming Second Great Depression will be blamed on President Donald Trump and Prime Minister Nigel Farage. “If it hadn’t been for this evil nationalism nonsense, the global economy wouldn’t have collapsed! We need to invade the United States, destroy the Constitution, and institute a global currency so that this can never happen again!”
Trump, months ago, called them out. He knows that they’re duct taping the economy together so that Obongo's “legacy” “isn’t” tarnished.
-1 Mragogo 2016-06-23
Prime minister Nigel Farage? Where are you getting that? The prime ministry isn't changing hands because we are leaving, at least not at the moment gotta wait till like 2020 and if you had foresight this is a great opportunity for the people to create a whole new party to sweep the current shitty ones away.
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4 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
Complete bullshit. You’ve just ruined any reason for anyone to trust you.
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1 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
Because the wankers in charge explicitly do not want anyone to leave the globalist machinations. Anyone with any knowledge whatsoever knows that.
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1 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
I assume you’ve seen BREXIT: The Movie , yeah?
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1 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
Sure is. Even at this late date (LEAVE UP 120K; FUCK THE CONTINENT!).
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1 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
I’m quite happy about the results. Today The Netherlands begins their process to vote to leave, too.
1 casterlywok 2016-06-23
We're more pissed off than you think, opinion polls turned out to be bullshit.
3 Mragogo 2016-06-23
Of course they'd be bullshit, it was a desperate attempt to convince people to give up and not vote or vote remain. It's absurd the amoutn of people I've seen trusting all media from this, like don't it's impossible to do currently
2 casterlywok 2016-06-23
Oh I know about the opinion polls, I'm just gloating. So many people are so shocked, they thought they had it in the bag. Across the country there are hoardes of people who just can't even right now, it's fucking glorious. And the biggest wanker of them all, Cameron is resigning!
I have so much joy in my heart right now.
3 beer_and_ 2016-06-23
He resigned so he doesn't have to follow through on his promise to exit.
Get ready for Brexit vote 2.0.
2 casterlywok 2016-06-23
If they didn't there would be absolute bedlam on the streets. Yeah the market has took a downturn today but I can't even imagine the sort of economic meltdown that would come from just saying 'no' to the vote.
1 beer_and_ 2016-06-23
They won't just say 'no.' There will be reasons and enticements. There will be dragging of feet. There will be another vote.
Don't get me wrong, the EU is an abomination and I totally support you leaving. The problem is that the guy who made the promise to leave just left. As was planned, I'm guessing, the entire time.
1 casterlywok 2016-06-23
I don't think so personally. The Uk has been lucky to avoid the sort of rioting that places like France have had to deal with recently. I honestly think that just saying no on this would cause a meltdown.
1 beer_and_ 2016-06-23
Let's all hope you are correct!
2 Mragogo 2016-06-23
As I stated earlier in this post I think its a good opportunity for the people to band together and actually make a new better party. And if scotland leaves it'll be even easier to do so
1 casterlywok 2016-06-23
I don't know if I'd trust in a new party, across Europe all new parties have been radically right, so right they make people like Trump look like a liberal.
What no one expected was for the hardcore labour voters to vote how they did so I think the best thing is to really shake up the labour party with some actual sensible policies.
The tories have so much of the grey vote and it turns out they were the ones that voted out so I don't think the next election will go well for them.
The liberal democrats are a joke and have not recovered from the disastrous uni price hike.
1 Mragogo 2016-06-23
Labour is tory 2.0, The Tory party has been split by brexit, Nigel farage has done what he said his career wanted to do so if he continues it shows hes dishonest and can be removed and the liberal democrats proved they were hypocrites by joining with a party that was the complete opposite to them. I personally have an idea in mind of a party and a reform of government but i'm still working out the kinks.
3 casterlywok 2016-06-23
Speaking of Nigel Farage, what the fuck happened to that guy? His whole career has been building up to the point of a referendum, literally the most important night of his political career, and he excuses himself from the debate because of 'family issues' and then declares a loss at 10pm, when the vote hasn't even been counted yet. He bottled it at such a key moment and no one seems to have noticed, it's just weird.
1 Mragogo 2016-06-23
One of his family members was assaulted and some of the media took the context of family issues with no other evidence and said he was having dinner with his son.
1 casterlywok 2016-06-23
I'd hate to be him right now, he runs in some pretty rich circles and they are not going to be pleased with him.
1 Mragogo 2016-06-23
Oh yeah, I mean hes always called a racist though I have never seen any proof of him being racist. But that always blackened UKIP i'd say if he really wanted this and has taken all the claims over the years he can take this one for the team. Though tbh with you this has really shown the true colours of people, like I know some of the people that I used to grow up with that are financially well off like middleclass wanting to riot in working class innocent areas because the vote didn't go their way, so right now I'm showing no respect to people like that
1 casterlywok 2016-06-23
I am incredibly disappointed by everyone's reactions. I hate that a leave vote has somehow turned into 'i hate everyone who is not white, deport them all!'. Voting leave doesn't mean you're an uneducated bigot. This vote really has brought to the surface just how divided we are as a country, the ugly truth about what the rich think of the working class has been truly laid bare.
1 Mragogo 2016-06-23
Regressive left my friend regressive left the youth have become brainwashed into this whole feminist privilege bullshit and its seen now that it is progressive and those that ain't are just as bad as the Nazi's and shit. People are genuinely saying the economy is fucked up beyond all repair now too but it'll go back up I'd rather sacrifice a few years of my life in a recession then a lifetime in such a corrupted system.
I could sum up this entire division with just a family guy clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ersYYsujVdc
7 miraclewhippet 2016-06-23
Was anybody else who is is conspiracy minded at least slightly encouraged by the fact that democracy is still alive and well in the UK? I don't think it's a great outcome, but I do think it is the will of the people. I have a feeling that the American establishment wouldn't have "allowed" for a true result. Just my thoughts.
5 HittingRichard 2016-06-23
Absolutely! No way I thought TBTB would let it happen. Interesting times.
3 actualzed 2016-06-23
apparently it was paper vote only, that certainly didn't help hehe
1 Jedy_hacker 2016-06-23
They didn't let it happen , it's just that turnover was just to high for them to rig it properly.
1 HittingRichard 2016-06-23
So do you think they will actually let them leave? Or will it be a greece situation.
1 Jedy_hacker 2016-06-23
Great Britain was never bound to the EU like Greece , they use the Pound and they're not in Schengen zone , which means they already had control over their borders and economy , the current crisis will continue, the only difference is that they will now be outside of EU , politically ... but will continue doing the same things. (diversity and multiculturalism)
Change will happen in around 2 years or next elections...and that is, if they get a huge "British" majority in their parlament , that will do "British" stuff , unless they cuck themselves and elect a Muslim PM .
1 HittingRichard 2016-06-23
appreciate your insight.
6 jellothrow 2016-06-23
Inb4 "this was part of tptb plans they wanted brexit to happen for....." please just don't even go there. But I know people will post this and watch the new threads popping up to say this exact thing in 3.....2.....1.....
3 wrongisright9 2016-06-23
Seriously. They couldn't rig it or they would have. Great day for the UK and the British people. They will look back proudly on today.
5 TheRealEFG 2016-06-23
We only went and bloody done it ! Nice work =D
2 beer_and_ 2016-06-23
Nope. Cameron resigned and the vote isn't binding.
Don't get me wrong, getting rid of that pig-fucker is great. But the UK is not exiting yet.
5 luckinator 2016-06-23
I know we're supposed to be adult about this decision, but I just wanted to say, "Na-na-na-na-naaaaah!" Bad guys lost, good guys won. The English get to control their own borders once again, and make their own laws. It's a wonderful day.
4 Sabremesh 2016-06-23
Another red flag that several posters have mentioned is the fact the betting odds don't reflect the opinion polls at all.
(Firstly, I would add the official opinion polls all conveniently put the result "in the balance" but if you go to any poll by a media outlet, the overwhelming majority says LEAVE. The Daily Telegraph is 72% Leave, with about 600,000 respondents. The Remain camp is "a little bit Hillary" in that it gets a lot of favourable MSM coverage, but in terms of real people, they are thin on the ground.)
But back to the betting odds. Betfair currently has Remain on 1.16 (decimal odds) which equates to an implied probability of 85%.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/politics/marketactivity?id=1.118739911&selectionId=9481397
If you are in the US and some other countries you may not be able to access the above link, but Betfair is a large UK betting exchange, and it shows that £60 million ($100 million) has been wagered on this vote, with most of the "big money" on Remain. What do these people know, that makes them so confident, when the polls don't support their position?
4 hawksaber 2016-06-23
Slowly but surely the Establishment's hold & sway over the world is crumbling away.
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2 dodgytactics 2016-06-23
Not British, but I'm right here with you laughing at ops idiocy, everything is a conspiracy apparently XD
1 conzorz 2016-06-23
Welcome to the sub...
-3 jellothrow 2016-06-23
Heh exactly what I was going to post. This thread is ridiculous with how "oh no tptb will not allow this blah blah" I'm glad this sub was COMPLETELY wrong about this and that brexit passed. This sub has /some/ good info on it but lately it just seems like alot of tinfoil conspiracies in here and this proves it.
3 unruly_mattress 2016-06-23
Wow, TPTB aren't very good at their jobs, eh?
3 Mragogo 2016-06-23
I'd like to point out too that there are people actually wanting a redo of the referendum because it had a 72% turn out https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215 despite the fact that it was probably because people didn't want to vote so a redo would change nothing in that turn out. So from what I can gather its just a bunch of whinging remainers not getting the vote they wanted
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1 Sabremesh 2016-06-23
The ECHR (Strasbourg) is a Council of Europe institution, and the UK will still be a signatory. A Brexit would allow the UK to sever its shackles to the European Court (Luxembourg), but this will be a long slow process. I'm not as pessimistic about this as you - I don't think our Parliament should be subservient to any foreign institution.
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1 -o-o-o 2016-06-23
classic
1 PrivilegeCheckmate 2016-06-23
Nice. Watched the whole thing. Well done.
2 chimnado 2016-06-23
I'm seriously confused right now.
2 beer_and_ 2016-06-23
The vote isn't binding and Cameron is a liar. He resigned and now doesn't have to do anything.
All that for absolutely nothing.
2 jx8p 2016-06-23
So how's this 'ground-breaking' theory of yours developing today?
If you had any ounce of character about yourself, you'd be man enough to apologise for your extremely obtuse stance to anyone that politely questioned your position.
0 Sabremesh 2016-06-23
I didn't respond to your last comment, because your claim to have visited the voter registration website on the final day was obviously a fabrication.
2 jx8p 2016-06-23
And where is your proof that the statement is a fabrication?
Further I didn't ask for a personal apology, I'm not that precious! Just an apology to everyone in this thread who politely questioned you position 24 hrs prior, and who you freaked out on.
Have a beer kid and chillllll.
1 Terex80 2016-06-23
"True blue Tories" that does not mean that they are controlled. The conservatives really are split over whether they hate the EU or love it (well stand it for the majority of conservatives)
The referendum didn't have to happen, if the "NWO" want Britain to remain in the eu why are so many conservatives for brexit? They surely can't be controlled opposition as one of the biggest reasons for a referendum was tory division
3 Sabremesh 2016-06-23
The two main figures in the Referendum debate are the same age, went to the same school (Eton), the same University (Oxford), were members of the same elite club (Bullingdon) and ended up as the two most important figures in the Conservative Party. But yeah, there's no stitch up. Farage is an outsider and he was deliberately kept that way.
0 Terex80 2016-06-23
They were two years apart in school. University I don't believe they ever actually knew each other well (Cameron being quiet whereas Johnson went into student politics). Cameron then went into the conservative party but Johnson became a journalist in the EU, mainly complaining about over regulation.
So yes it isn't a a "stich up"
Farage is a firm believer in neo liberal economics. The eu has too many regulations for him
2 IanPhlegming 2016-06-23
If they're both members of Bullingdon, that's all you need to know about the fix being in. Here's a watered-down mainstream media explanation of Bullingdon and pig-fucking. Makes "Black Mirror" look all the more interesting, right?
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/21/david-cameron-piers-gaveston-society-what-we-know-oxford-secret
2 Terex80 2016-06-23
Claims that had no evidence, yes they were funny but I thought this sub based itself upon evidence? I also know all about pig gate anyway.
So they both went to the same posh boy club. Does that mean they HAVE to have the exact same political views? Don't be ridiculous
0 IanPhlegming 2016-06-23
Yeah, no evidence. That's why the guy who told us nearly got murdered immediately afterwards:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/613178/Lord-Ashcroft-David-Cameron-book-launch-life-threatening-illness
I appreciate the pushback, as it gives me more opportunity to show non-TMOR types what's going on here.
Which posh boys club might you be serving, BtW?
1 Terex80 2016-06-23
What was this illness caused by? That is just paranoia and seems to be desperation for things to be a conspiracy
Did you really just ignore my second point? Answer me: just because they went to the same posh boy club does that mean they have to have the exact same political views?
I'm not serving any posh boys club, I deplore the elitism that they demonstrate so let's stay on topic and please don't derail this
1 IanPhlegming 2016-06-23
It's not politics. It's the quest for a one-world globalist government, as chronicled by Dr. Carroll Quigley in "Tragedy & Hope." Sometimes the politics differ, but the ultimate goal does not.
If you're genuinely interested in doing something to push back against the elitism that has infected the world's leadership, I suggest you look into Dr. Quigley's work. Perhaps starting with Joseph Plummer's concise "Tragedy & Hope 101" would be a good place to start.
1 Terex80 2016-06-23
Boris clearly is neo liberal, now what does that mean? It means he will want to roll back the barriers of the state. Also globalisation is pretty much a certainty, has been since 1900 ish arguably, isn't necessarily a bad thing imo
1 Terex80 2016-06-23
Where's the "fixed vote"?
1 jx8p 2016-06-23
The 'emergency ad hoc legislation to get the registration period extended' was due to the website crashing on the original last registration date, and thousands of voters could not get registered in time. It was then decided to extend the deadline date. Nothing sinister here.
0 Sabremesh 2016-06-23
Yes, we all know the official excuse. How many people were actually prevented from registering during this website crash? What evidence do you have, and what is your source? How do you know the website even crashed at all, and if it did, how do you know it wasn't done so deliberately by the Remain camp?
The bottom line is that moving the goalposts during the referendum process was unjustified, and constitutes the sort of election malpractice we might expect from a country like Zimbabwe.
1 jx8p 2016-06-23
I tried checking the website that evening and it wasn't loading.
1 americangoyisback 2016-06-23
Obligatory:
The way "democracy" works in our "free, democratic West" (tm) is that people are allowed to vote on lots of stuff and then the correct result happens.
Of course the majority of native, English, Welsh, Scots will vote "GTFO" and of course the result will be "LEL, remain".
PS Nothing will make me so happy as being 100%, totally wrong here. Make me eat my words. Please.
1 PrivilegeCheckmate 2016-06-23
Enjoy ur supper.
Seriously though, there's only so much manipulation, I mean, if HRC had a solid fix from the get-go, why would she have needed the AP stunt before the CA primary? The vote tonight confirms it; many of the people involved in the process of election(in any country) work towards a genuine result.
1 americangoyisback 2016-06-23
I was very wrong.
I am very happy.
:)
1 Sportfreunde 2016-06-23
They're leaving, now I'm just confused.
1 kingofthemonsters 2016-06-23
Serious question, does the TPP play a role in this at all?
1 daddie_o 2016-06-23
Or maybe TPTB are using the Brexit vote as the catalyst to trigger a worldwide financial collapse...?
1 Redchevron 2016-06-23
This is the first domino in string that will lead to World War 3.
Mark it.
-1 callmebaiken 2016-06-23
The public get who's pushing what to:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/eu-referendum-brexit-how-to-vote-own-pens-polling-station-polls-live-latest-mi5-conspiracy-fears-a7097011.html
-1 smartal 2016-06-23
Are you kidding? The elite want this. What better way to pick apart the UK piece by piece on the cheap? Then the EU begins to crumble after, more fire sales, yay for rich people. This is exactly what they want to happen, which is why it's happening.
1 Jedy_hacker 2016-06-23
No just no , they wanted to tear down Russia(balkanize it) with the EU's help.
-1 Nerdherd99 2016-06-23
The beginnings of ww3. once the transition is complete EU will build a grand army and take over Britain and force all other European nations into the EU as well
-1 CaucasianEagle 2016-06-23
They will use this collapse as a finger pointing moment to show us how stupid nation states are. This will be the catalyst to a NWO. They will say we can never have another brexit.
-1 alien13869 2016-06-23
That's really funny. I'd love to see when every country in the world works together.
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6 mrjohnnyp 2016-06-23
What utter rubbish!
-2 vicissitudinal 2016-06-23
You don't agree with the stats? That's what the numbers demonstrate and is perfectly summed up here:
"First, the “Brexit” referendum is part of a global phenomenon: populist revolts against established political parties, predominantly by older, poorer, or less-educated voters angry enough to tear down existing institutions and defy “establishment” politicians and economic experts. Indeed, the demographic profile of potential Brexit voters is strikingly similar to that of American supporters of Donald Trump and French adherents of the National Front."
3 jav253 2016-06-23
So called highly educated elitist with their heads up their ass usually fail to see revolutions coming because their lives are disconnected from the struggles of the common man. Those older, poorer, less educated voters might be that way for a reason you know. Especially since College still isn't free. I'll sit back an continue to watch the elitist fail to call this until their heads are rolling.
2 eupf 2016-06-23
How dare the serfs want such petty things like "national sovereignty" right? I wonder why they don't want supranational quasi-government like their "betters" tell them they should...
1 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
Get fucked, globalist. You and your ilk will burn for your crimes.
3 vicissitudinal 2016-06-23
This is exactly the level of discourse I expect from most Brexit supporters.
0 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
You gave nothing but insults, shitposting, and lies. You expected to deserve anything better in kind?
Globalists will burn. There is no stopping it.
0 vicissitudinal 2016-06-23
What lies? The fact of the matter is that Britain is in the bottom 10 of developed countries for high-school completion rates and that many of the Brexit supporters haven't completed high-school, or are over 60 or or have “D, E” blue-collar occupations. The majority of people who actually contribute a significant amount to British culture, education and economy are in favor of the "remain" campaign. Stats don't lie.
2 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
...not part of the remain campaign. Oops. Try the fuck again with an argument that isn’t predicated on genocide.
1 vicissitudinal 2016-06-23
So you disagree with the statistics? Do you have numbers that show otherwise?
3 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
I do. Britons support leaving. Foreigners support staying. Your own numbers show that.
0 vicissitudinal 2016-06-23
Where did you see that? The numbers say this:
"Opinion polls indicate that British voters back the “Leave”campaign by a wide margin, 65% to 35%, if they did not complete high school, are over 60, or have “D, E” blue-collar occupations. By contrast, university graduates, voters under 40, and members of the “A, B” professional classes plan to vote “Remain” by similar margins of 60% to 40% and higher. "
There is nothing about foreigners in any of the stats:
http://graphics.wsj.com/brexit-whos-voting-what/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/22/eu-referendum-which-type-of-person-wants-to-leave-and-who-will-b/
2 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
There’s quite a bit, in fact.
2 MangekyouSharinganKa 2016-06-23
Calm down, hero.
2 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
Fuck you. Being calm is how people allowed it to happen.
1 MangekyouSharinganKa 2016-06-23
Okay Hero, go save the world.
-1 Sabremesh 2016-06-23
You are clearly itching to tell us your qualifications, so we can all be impressed by how clever you are. So go on?
1 vicissitudinal 2016-06-23
I didn't realize that I needed to post my resume when making a post about simple to understand, easy to verify British referendum voter demographics ...
-1 Sabremesh 2016-06-23
Put up or shut up.
0 vicissitudinal 2016-06-23
I did, here are the demographics:
http://graphics.wsj.com/brexit-whos-voting-what/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/22/eu-referendum-which-type-of-person-wants-to-leave-and-who-will-b/
0 Sabremesh 2016-06-23
What are your qualifications in Politics, Economics, Law, History, European studies, or International Relations, since those are the relevant fields of study with regards to the UK's membership of the European Union?
1 vicissitudinal 2016-06-23
They likely lie somewhere in the vast gap between yours and Anatole Kaletsky's.
-1 Sabremesh 2016-06-23
Actually no, because you clearly have zero relevant qualifications in this area...whereas I do, from one of the highest ranked Schools of International Relations of any UK university (and if you trawl obsessively enough through my comment history you can find out which one). Which is ironic, because you are the one implying that a person's academic background gives their opinion on the referendum debate "special value", not me! So perhaps you'd like to slither back under the rock you emerged from?
3 vicissitudinal 2016-06-23
I never did that whatsoever, I was merely pointing out that the leave campaign has gained traction amongst the less-educated as well as out-of-touch. This is supported by numerous demographic studies of referendum voters. If you disagree with the statistics, then point out where they are incorrect and provide different numbers.
The Brexit campaign been effective in simplifying the issue for those people and boiling it down to the ideas of "democracy" and "state sovereignty" when it is in fact far more complicated. This is visible throughout their campaign which tugs at emotional strings and contains fear-mongering messaging in order to make it about issues that are easier for the majority of their supporters to understand. The fact that the Brexit campaign coincides with increasing dropout rates is no coincidence.
I never said that anybody's opinion has "special value" of any kind, I was pointing at well-documented demographic leanings which demonstrate that the majority of Brexit supporters are in fact less educated than their counterparts.
Your reflective, baseless musings regarding my qualifications aside, you can't argue with what the numbers show, but at least you've decided to add "value" to your own opinion through bragging about your educational qualifications.
1 LupinePeregrinans 2016-06-23
Congratulations. I hope you're proud of your tremendous achievements /s
1 Sabremesh 2016-06-23
At least I'm not a sockpuppet.
3 LupinePeregrinans 2016-06-23
Ha, feel free to think what you want - you're the one with the achievements and the education.
1 Sabremesh 2016-06-23
Yup, and you're the one who is ban evading on /r/conspiracy after you had two accounts banned by the admins 17 days ago. Do you want to have a little guess as to what's about to happen to your new accounts (17 and 14 days old respectively)? Hint: Better get your response in quickly.
1 beer_and_ 2016-06-23
Hahahaha. Good on you.
-1 MangekyouSharinganKa 2016-06-23
I absolutely agree with you. Brexit will cause massive economic damage to Britain. Yet, this is dismissed by the Brexiters as being "propaganda'.
Did you hear about the story of Brexiters bringing their own pens to vote because they don't trust the MI5 to not tamper with the votes?
Fucking hilarious.
4 drewshaver 2016-06-23
If it's coming from the central bankers, (and it is), it's propaganda.
0 MangekyouSharinganKa 2016-06-23
Look at the markets plunging, along with the sterling, euro, etc.
Must be propaganda.
2 Hartleh 2016-06-23
You mean how when the euro came out and they said if the UK didn't take on the euro our economy/country would be fucked? It didn't.
-1 MangekyouSharinganKa 2016-06-23
Fallacious logic.
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1 SovereignMan 2016-06-23
Rule 10. No personal attacks. removed. 1st warning.
1 americangoyisback 2016-06-23
You're correct.
0 MangekyouSharinganKa 2016-06-23
Trade.
1 americangoyisback 2016-06-23
Trade?
UK is basically "The City". That's it. Finance (2nd) capital of the world, after New Yawk.
They will make bank no matter what - in fact, being independent of Euro laws, they will make more money now.
1 MangekyouSharinganKa 2016-06-23
It's used by Russian/Chinese oligarchs and criminal entities use banks like HSBC to illegally launder money. None of those benefits go to the people and London's status as a financial capital will only diminish.
1 vicissitudinal 2016-06-23
I didn't realize that I needed to post my resume when making a post about simple to understand, easy to verify British referendum voter demographics ...
-1 Sabremesh 2016-06-23
Put up or shut up.
1 TallestSkil 2016-06-23
I assume you’ve seen BREXIT: The Movie , yeah?
1 casterlywok 2016-06-23
I'd hate to be him right now, he runs in some pretty rich circles and they are not going to be pleased with him.
-1 greggerypeccary 2016-06-23
Could be a "pressure valve" type of thing: let the plebes have their vote and then wait a few months for everyone to forget, then proceed with the agenda as normal.
1 casterlywok 2016-06-23
I don't think so personally. The Uk has been lucky to avoid the sort of rioting that places like France have had to deal with recently. I honestly think that just saying no on this would cause a meltdown.
3 WingedBeing 2016-06-23
The NWO also ONCE AGAIN failed to repeal the Second Amendment after their latest false flag gun seizure attempt in the US, and instead managed to make the opposition look like adults and proponents look like disgruntled children who are exploiting a national tragedy.
TPTB have really lost their touch.
0 Jedy_hacker 2016-06-23
It's not over yet mate, we have a long way to go.
1 Jedy_hacker 2016-06-23
Great Britain was never bound to the EU like Greece , they use the Pound and they're not in Schengen zone , which means they already had control over their borders and economy , the current crisis will continue, the only difference is that they will now be outside of EU , politically ... but will continue doing the same things. (diversity and multiculturalism)
Change will happen in around 2 years or next elections...and that is, if they get a huge "British" majority in their parlament , that will do "British" stuff , unless they cuck themselves and elect a Muslim PM .
1 americangoyisback 2016-06-23
Engerland is fucked. Instead of hordes of Poles (my peeps), Romanians, and other Eastern Euros plus hordes of pakis and hindus, now you're stuck with hordes of pakis.
Rotherham (and all the rest of Engerland) is and WILL BE happy hunting ground for "grooming" and raping of children by them.
They are commonwealth, and already citizens, you see.
Engerland is fucked.