About Bitcoin creator "Satoshi Nakamoto"
65 2014-03-05 by [deleted]
No one has identified who "Satoshi Nakamoto" is. As noted in a recent TIL post close to $1B in bitcoins have never moved, leading to a suggestion that "Satoshi Nakamoto" possesses those coins.
Several theories exist about who "Satoshi Nakamoto" is, including the NSA, CIA, or other state agency, banking cartels, drug cartels, etc.
I think there's a simple explanation. An anagram of "Satoshi Nakamoto" is:
Aha, Masons Took It
EDIT: I post this, and the very next day Newsweek outs Nakamoto. Coincidence? Discuss.
64 comments
42 FuturisticChinchilla 2014-03-05
There are over 100,000 other anagrams; you can find one which suits your pleasure.
http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=satoshi+nakamoto&t=1000&a=n
22 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2014-03-05
I like 'aha, tomato skis on'.
2 lurch350z 2014-03-05
Never trust anyone wearing tomato skis
34 NowhereNinja 2014-03-05
I think you guyes missed the obvious answer here:
Satanist Oak Homo
7 tft2 2014-03-05
I knew that Professor was up to no good. Just letting me wander around tall grass by myself with a tracking device...
32 [deleted] 2014-03-05
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6 AtlasAnimated 2014-03-05
Kinda like the trick where you can fold a dollar into smoldering twin terrors.. They've been planning this for decades folks!!!
16 Billistix 2014-03-05
I've always heard Satoshi is probably Nick Szabo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo
2 neanderthalensis 2014-03-05
Even the initials are somewhat related.
15 dankpants 2014-03-05
15 [deleted] 2014-03-05
Does anyone actually understand how the Bitcoin cryptography system works?
It doesn't really matter who made it, because not one person can control it regardless. Would a government agency really create such a complex thing such as bitcoin and not being able to control it? Ever? I don't think so.
5 Ryan2468 2014-03-05
I think a more interesting question is where is all the CPU and computing power going mining these coins? I know they have to perform mathematical calculations and equations that gradually get more and more difficult to complete, but that's about it. Where's all the system resources going? A massive botnet?
6 Bigbrass 2014-03-05
Verifying transactions. Each transaction is verified time and time again to continually confirm the integrity of the blockchain. I understand the protocol enough to grasp this, but I can't detail the specifics.
All I know is the huge amount of mining power is being devoted to verification and nothing else. ASICs by definition can't do anything but what they were built to do.
1 Ryan2468 2014-03-05
OK, there goes that theory. I just liked the idea of there being a higher purpose to it all for the creator.
4 Bigbrass 2014-03-05
It might seem simple, but the consistent and repetitive verification is actually the true gem of the bitcoin protocol.
Consider that the value of a bitcoin is supported by a network of trust-less individuals that work in concert. There's nothing stopping you from submitting an invalid transaction to the network, it simply won't work because the network will reject it. A 51% attack is commonly discussed related to bitcoin, when in reality this isn't an attack at all. Whatever the majority of the network decides upon becomes the accepted standard. If 51% of the network decided to fundamentally change the protocol, so it is.
Look into the byzantine general problem for a more detailed (and probably accurate) explanation of what I'm getting at here. Here's the punchline:
Bitcoin is actually pretty mundane. The blockchain , however, will change the world.
3 Trevoriskingboo 2014-03-05
Yeah but we're still interested in who the creator was
3 Gaaargh 2014-03-05
If Satoshi retains ~5% of the maximum possible Bitcoins (in the genesis block) and it becomes widely adopted, there is a lot you can do with 5% of a world-wide currency, or threaten to do.
0 AtlasAnimated 2014-03-05
Yeah at best, Satoshi being an early adopter would have access to lots of cheap bitcoins, but so would several people.
13 Sweaterking 2014-03-05
Is this a troll post?
4 [deleted] 2014-03-05
Absolutely.
http://np.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1zkshk/til_bitcoins_were_developed_by_an_anonymous/cfur9o6
-2 [deleted] 2014-03-05
It's OTT.
Satoshi will remain anonymous because whoever it is, they took on the banking oligarchy, and they don't like competition. Competing with financial terrorists can get you killed.
8 Sweaterking 2014-03-05
OTT?
1 [deleted] 2014-03-05
over the top
5 IAmNotHariSeldon 2014-03-05
Ha I love that anagram. Still one person or entity holding all those bitcoins doesn't mean they "took" any money from people. The Bitcoin network continues to function without the participation of this mysterious entity.
Still, they could probably do a lot of damage to bitcoin prices by selling all at once. What's the total value of all bitcoins in existence?
-1 [deleted] 2014-03-05
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5 IAmNotHariSeldon 2014-03-05
Wait... That's a lot of money. I mean I know that everyone couldn't sell their bitcoins right now and it would actually turn into 80 billion dollars but fuck, that's a lot of money.
No wonder governments are starting to get interested. What happened to all those siezed Bitcoins from the Silk Road? Surely someone has been keeping an eye on them.
edit: sup with the instant downvote?
1 johndoe2313 2014-03-05
learn how to math please
That number is probably like a whole 14 months away.
5 human_retard 2014-03-05
Also "Edward Joseph Snowden" is an an anagram for:
Jew Owned Nerd Shad Ops
"Shad Ops" is shorthand for Shadow Operations
4 totes_meta_bot 2014-03-05
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4 Revofev92 2014-03-05
Really? The Masons are gonna sit on billions and leave the potential exposure to an anagram? For what gain?
3 wantsneeds 2014-03-05
To discredit all those who solve it? I think I'm joking.
2 FaustianPact 2014-03-05
Have you never seen a movie with a villain in it. Why do they wait to kill the bad or offer a detailed explanation of their plans? Masons suffer from a similar weakness.
1 Revofev92 2014-03-05
Movie villains have to lose. In real life, things aren't that elaborate. That's why they're movie villains, not just villains.
4 [deleted] 2014-03-05
NSA created. The massive amounts of computing power dedicated around the world to Bitcoin mining that is greater in power than any super computer, is actually crunching meta data for the surveillance programme covertly known as 'The Insinuating Bretheren' or 'All Seeing Eye'. It is pure genius, dupe everyone into dedicating enormous computing power crunching code for the NSA that is surveillance meta data whilst making them believe it is mining crypto currency and giving them Bitcoins as payment. s/....
Edit/ The NSA told me to delete the most damaging bits I posted earlier or they would kill me and my cat.
2 NotAFrenchSupermodel 2014-03-05
In all seriousness, I have heard this angle before. Is there any way to prove it right or wrong based on what your computer is processing?
7 [deleted] 2014-03-05
Well, one of my best friends is an absolute guru when it comes to computers, code, linux, command lines etc etc etc, and I ran this little idea past him one night when we were having a few vinos and he kinda stopped and gave me a weird stare, and then said fuck man, I dont know......
2 NotAFrenchSupermodel 2014-03-05
Are we all seriously just helping the NSA crack encrypted messages? Oh dear lord... Whose idea is this whole thing anyway? Do we have a red phone we can call to get a proper nerd on and ask?
3 [deleted] 2014-03-05
It is nigh on mushroom season here in my part of the world. I will drop a fuckload of shrooms and ask the spirits for some answers. I place more hope in this method than any red phone or Google...
2 left_one 2014-03-05
The only thing that you could say as a proper nerd is that whatever relics of messages that are being decrypted by the bitcoin cloud are publicly stored. So the block chain itself would be the cryptographically solved puzzles.
But just realizing the concept now, it's quite interesting. Maybe it's more like generating the ultimate set of rainbow tables, so to speak. A pruned tree of hashes and their known inputs.
The only thing is the hashes bitcoin generates are trivial in their inputs - unless the nsa knows something about those algorithms that no one else does. The answer to the question 'How likely is it that the NSA would know such a thing?' will reveal how full of shit someone is. I think the answer is a definitive 'yes'. Anything besides that is denial. So consider my mind blown!
1 NotAFrenchSupermodel 2014-03-05
Kind of my point, if you hypothetically propose to generate every possible rainbow table, it would be a massive processing task, but not so much maybe of a data set. Properly read, the block chain info may be just that. I am talking out my ass here, maybe someone with some credibility could zen out on the possibility and report back.
2 left_one 2014-03-05
I'm not a crypto expert but I worked in netsec so I'm definitely familiar with the stuff. Rainbow tables aren't small. The blockchain is close to 14 gigs right now. That kinda sounds about right.
Let's say the NSA needs a correctly solved 'x' algorithm (the one used in btc) to leverage an attack on a parallel crypto system. Like maybe the algorithm used in btc, but without a compromised random number generator. That'd be some really fucking smart math.
1 NSA_operations 2014-03-05
Thank you for complying.
2 [deleted] 2014-03-05
I had to save the cat.
3 [deleted] 2014-03-05
Just posted his wikipedia. Didn't see your post. I thought it belonged here as well.
3 shmegegy 2014-03-05
Unbelievable.. Nice one. I tried a bunch of anagrams months ago when I read the story about Gavin visiting the CIA.
2 tidder112 2014-03-05
Could he be someone who is not alive anymore?
Without a full admission with acceptable evidence, we may never know, and that makes me sad.
2 DESTRUCTOBOT_9000 2014-03-05
Anatomists Hooka
2 Ferrofluid 2014-03-05
Cryptonomicon
2 CitizenOlympic 2014-03-05
It's open source code. Anyone can fork it and create their own version of bitcoin. It makes sense that the creator of Bitcoin would have a lot because they would have been the very first person to mine the coin. If the powers that shouldn't be really wanted to shift the world over to digital currency (which they are already doing with NFT cards, they wouldn't make it open source, they wouldn't make Bitcoin.
2 gnomeimean 2014-03-05
Anagrams aren't proof of anything. Yes there are sometimes anagrams left behind but the premise of your post should be about who this person or entity was. Putting the anagram shit as "proof" just discredits you and this sub.
Wasn't it revealed that the TOR network was created from military funding?
2 WadeWilsonforPope 2014-03-05
The blockchain is open source, anyone can view the code. This is the most important thing to remember, the code used for bitcoin has been reviewed by people far smarter than me. This is just the bit used for bitcoin generation and transactions, it has nothing to do with the exchanges and their problems.
Bitcoin itself is incredibly secure, to falsify a bitcoin transaction you would need to out compute 50% of the blockchain, requiring a few hundred of the worlds fastest computer. The theft we have been seeing are basically people not securing their wallets (And in Mt Gox case, using a shitty method of storing bitcoin while making assumptions about those requests), and using amateurs for security).
The first paper produced by Satoshi https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
1 LOL_CoolJ 2014-03-05
If there is a puzzle there, I would assume there would be a few more layers. Good anagrams leave clues for association that only informed or intelligent people would pick up, rather than spelling out "my mom sucks the D" or something. Character names are good places to start, or an historical event related to a person. Any Japanese speakers notice anything funny about the name?
5 fractalfrenzy 2014-03-05
Satoshi is a male, Japanese name, whose meaning is variously given as "wise", "clear-thinking", "quick-witted"
2 LOL_CoolJ 2014-03-05
Wow, an Artful Dodger, almost? Interesting, thanks for the info!
1 MrNewVegas2077 2014-03-05
Steve Jobs
1 ayn-ahuasca 2014-03-05
Ted Nelson: I think I know who Satoshi is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emDJTGTrEm0
1 [deleted] 2014-03-05
Guys this is a troll post and is a joke.
http://np.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1zkshk/til_bitcoins_were_developed_by_an_anonymous/cfur9o6
1 smiles_at_dogs 2014-03-05
Got to be Hooka Station Sam. Although the fluidity of the Bitcoin network and the fact that the technology is here to stay does suggest A Shat Soak Motion...
1 tft2 2014-03-05
Ha! Could have gone without that humor at the end, but cool points made throughout the post.
1 Licence2Shill 2014-03-05
it sounds like a made up name now you mention it
1 androidpk 2014-03-05
Looks like you spoke too soon.
http://www.businessinsider.com/newseek-reporter-findsf-bitcoin-inventor-2014-3
1 [deleted] 2014-03-05
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1 androidpk 2014-03-05
It is suspicious. I think so anyways.
1 Balabol 2014-03-05
Aha! Oaks Tits Moon
0 Th4ab 2014-03-05
This, and the masons taking it would be all the proof I need that this is some next level shit going on.
4 Macbeth554 2014-03-05
You don't require much proof of stuff, do you?
1 dkmdlb 2014-03-05
"Proof"
4 Bigbrass 2014-03-05
It might seem simple, but the consistent and repetitive verification is actually the true gem of the bitcoin protocol.
Consider that the value of a bitcoin is supported by a network of trust-less individuals that work in concert. There's nothing stopping you from submitting an invalid transaction to the network, it simply won't work because the network will reject it. A 51% attack is commonly discussed related to bitcoin, when in reality this isn't an attack at all. Whatever the majority of the network decides upon becomes the accepted standard. If 51% of the network decided to fundamentally change the protocol, so it is.
Look into the byzantine general problem for a more detailed (and probably accurate) explanation of what I'm getting at here. Here's the punchline:
Bitcoin is actually pretty mundane. The blockchain , however, will change the world.